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Help NBME 5, 205. How much more time do I need?

I did my first NBME almost 5 weeks ago and I was too ashamed to say it then, but I got an equivalent of 165. It was NBME 12 and I failed it miserably.

During these 5 weeks, I went through DIT and of course FA along with it.
In addition, I was trying to finish off the remaining UW blocks I had (I couldn't go through more than 1-2 blocks per week!).

Well, after finishing my DIT, I decided to take NBME 5 (due to the advice of many people on the forum).
I got a 430, which is equivalent to a 205
That means i experienced a 40 point increase!

Whatever I did, it worked! So I decided that from here till my exam I will not touch anything other than (DIT+FA+UW), and everytime I finish one round I'll take an NBME.

So beginning tomorrow my strategy will be:

-For 1 week
Finishing off (finally) the remaining UW questions! Plus redoing questions of my weak areas.

-For 3 weeks
DIT + FA. Plus doing UW, second pass, marked/incorrect (almost 20 blocks, so i'll do a block a day).

-NBME

-For 2 weeks:
Final review of FA and UW notes.

-NBME

-1 week:
Quick scan and concentrating on my weak areas.

-EXAM!

This schedule is 7 weeks (maybe too long?)
My target score is +230. How much more time do you guys think i'll need to reach my target score?
All of you guys have helped me alot during this month, so i would definitely appreciate your input and advice.

Thnx in advance!

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Can't help but I must say I am really impressed! Hopefully I get such a score jump soon.
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Advice? Input? Tips? Any sort of feedback would be great!

How much more time do I need?!
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great improvement buddy..just solve qs and FA and if possible squeeze out time to revise UWORLD again..u will surely touch 230..do another NBME (preferably 13) and give uwsa to boost ur confidence..u r definitely on right path..7 weeks is rightly a lot of time..all the best
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I did my first NBME almost 5 weeks ago and I was too ashamed to say it then, but I got an equivalent of 165. It was NBME 12 and I failed it miserably.

During these 5 weeks, I went through DIT and of course FA along with it.
In addition, I was trying to finish off the remaining UW blocks I had (I couldn't go through more than 1-2 blocks per week!).

Well, after finishing my DIT, I decided to take NBME 5 (due to the advice of many people on the forum).
I got a 430, which is equivalent to a 205
That means i experienced a 40 point increase!

Whatever I did, it worked! So I decided that from here till my exam I will not touch anything other than (DIT+FA+UW), and everytime I finish one round I'll take an NBME.

So beginning tomorrow my strategy will be:

-For 1 week
Finishing off (finally) the remaining UW questions! Plus redoing questions of my weak areas.

-For 3 weeks
DIT + FA. Plus doing UW, second pass, marked/incorrect (almost 20 blocks, so i'll do a block a day).

-NBME

-For 2 weeks:
Final review of FA and UW notes.

-NBME

-1 week:
Quick scan and concentrating on my weak areas.

-EXAM!

This schedule is 7 weeks (maybe too long?)
My target score is +230. How much more time do you guys think i'll need to reach my target score?
All of you guys have helped me alot during this month, so i would definitely appreciate your input and advice.

Thnx in advance!

u r doing good , may be great....just don't let urself down and keep this spirit up....may be u can cross 250+....best of luck........!!!!
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7 weeks to go from 205-230 isnt that easy man
the higher you go, the harder the point increases become tbh

UW 2nd pass will deffo help though if you study the answers
DIT again may also help a few points

the "final review of FA" on your own may not be so effective,
i think FA review with DIT is much more.

do you have your exam booked?
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7 weeks to go from 205-230 isnt that easy man
the higher you go, the harder the point increases become tbh

UW 2nd pass will deffo help though if you study the answers
DIT again may also help a few points

the "final review of FA" on your own may not be so effective,
i think FA review with DIT is much more.

do you have your exam booked?
That's exactly what i was thinking today. An increase of 10 points when your below 200 is much much easier than an increase of 10 points when your above 200.

Since my "final review of FA" is 2 weeks, then I guess i can do it through DIT -it'll be my third time so it can definitely be done in 15 days.
Also during this time, im thinking of doing a block of UW daily.

My exam was booked for may 30 (my last day in my eligibility period).
I wanted to get it over with because i didnt feel i could do good, but after today's NBME, i feel i can get a +230. So i canceled it, and will probably schedule one after my next NBME.
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This is great news, bud!! A 40-point jump!

Redoing UW mcqs on weak areas is a good move! That's also what I did when I was finishing UW. Before you answer the mcqs again, I strongly suggest you read the corresponding weak topics/subjs in KLN (or your primary material) first. Reading them in KLN after UW will give you a different perspective of the material. You will know what to look for and the details to focus on so it's easier and more efficient than the first time around. (In my case, I went back to the videos bec. I was too lazy to read KLN -- it served as my 2nd read.) It will also make going back to the mcqs a lot easier bec. by this time, you've fully understood the topic.

Also, what about putting the last week (working on weak areas) earlier in the prep? Maybe after the week where you finish UW and redoing the mcqs? In fact, dwell on those areas first before you take your next nbme and schedule for your exam. Because in my experience, there are some subjects that will take time to bolster. When you combine all the topics/subjs like immuno, genetics, biostat, etc. sometimes 1 wk isn't enough to work on all of them. In my opinion, working on weak areas is the key.

You can definitely do a 235+!! You have time in your hands! Go for it. We didn't study for this long for a mediocre score. LOL! Aim 235+ above!

Do an nbme, at the latest, 2 weeks before your exam. Any nbme later than that will just contribute to test anxiety -- in my opinion. In that last nbme, you should be satisfied with your score range so you don't need to worry about increasing your score in the remaining days. For the last 2 weeks, if you want a self-assessment test, go for UWSA 1 or 2. Leave UWSA 2 nearest to the exam bec. it overpredicts by 20 pts. Who knows, if it shows a 265, that's a great confidence booster!

Also, allot in your schedule at least 2 days for an nbme. Reviewing your wrong answers and looking for the right ones takes time. Schedule going out/taking breaks after nbmes. That works for me.
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@dwiqed...so you mean, do questions subject-wise and then read KLN or vice-versa?

And would this method also work for a 1st pass of UW?

See, I want to do RX, kbank, and UW but I don't know which one I should start first.

I think I'll start it tutor-mode, but I don't want to jot down irrelevant things that kbank might throw at me.

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@dwiqed...so you mean, do questions subject-wise and then read KLN or vice-versa?

And would this method also work for a 1st pass of UW?

See, I want to do RX, kbank, and UW but I don't know which one I should start first.

I think I'll start it tutor-mode, but I don't want to jot down irrelevant things that kbank might throw at me.

Thanks.
Yep. For example, after finishing a complete first pass of UW, I found out that I was doing poorly in physio. I'd read (watch) cardio physio then answer cardio physio UW mcqs again. I did this for the subjects I got less than 60% in UW.

As for your question if it will work for a 1st pass of UW... Don't plan doing it this way. As much as possible, when you start UW, you want to be prepared. Make UW your 2nd qbank and do it random, timed.

I think 2 qbanks are more than enough. Focus your energy on UW instead of doing a 3rd qbank. In fact, UW as a sole qbank is enough to get a 240+ in the nbmes.

But if you want to do 3 qbanks, my suggestion is:
1st qbank - Rx or Kaplan (subjectwise, during first reading)
2nd qbank - UW (timed, random)
3rd qbank - Rx or Kaplan (timed, random, to detect weak areas)

It still all depends what you use the qbanks for. Rx is great for hammering down FA. Kaplan qbank is good for more exposure or to test the same concepts (as UW) but in a different way. If you're going to use Kaplan qbank as the 3rd qbank, you can switch it to HY mode. If you're going to use it as a first qbank, don't worry about the seemingly unimportant things it throws at you. It will still make you study harder. I hated the hard, out-of-this-world physio computations in kaplan qbank, but it made me sit down and jot all the formulas and memorize them so there's still that benefit.
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This is great news, bud!! A 40-point jump!

Redoing UW mcqs on weak areas is a good move! That's also what I did when I was finishing UW. Before you answer the mcqs again, I strongly suggest you read the corresponding weak topics/subjs in KLN (or your primary material) first. Reading them in KLN after UW will give you a different perspective of the material. You will know what to look for and the details to focus on so it's easier and more efficient than the first time around. (In my case, I went back to the videos bec. I was too lazy to read KLN -- it served as my 2nd read.) It will also make going back to the mcqs a lot easier bec. by this time, you've fully understood the topic.

Also, what about putting the last week (working on weak areas) earlier in the prep? Maybe after the week where you finish UW and redoing the mcqs? In fact, dwell on those areas first before you take your next nbme and schedule for your exam. Because in my experience, there are some subjects that will take time to bolster. When you combine all the topics/subjs like immuno, genetics, biostat, etc. sometimes 1 wk isn't enough to work on all of them. In my opinion, working on weak areas is the key.

You can definitely do a 235+!! You have time in your hands! Go for it. We didn't study for this long for a mediocre score. LOL! Aim 235+ above!

Do an nbme, at the latest, 2 weeks before your exam. Any nbme later than that will just contribute to test anxiety -- in my opinion. In that last nbme, you should be satisfied with your score range so you don't need to worry about increasing your score in the remaining days. For the last 2 weeks, if you want a self-assessment test, go for UWSA 1 or 2. Leave UWSA 2 nearest to the exam bec. it overpredicts by 20 pts. Who knows, if it shows a 265, that's a great confidence booster!

Also, allot in your schedule at least 2 days for an nbme. Reviewing your wrong answers and looking for the right ones takes time. Schedule going out/taking breaks after nbmes. That works for me.
thanks d_wiqed that was a really very helpful idea on how to approach the Qbank at 2nd pass
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thanks d_wiqed that was a really very helpful idea on how to approach the Qbank at 2nd pass
That's just for weak areas/subjects though. I think 2nd pass at random, timed for the rest is enough.
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I did my first NBME almost 5 weeks ago and I was too ashamed to say it then, but I got an equivalent of 165. It was NBME 12 and I failed it miserably.

During these 5 weeks, I went through DIT and of course FA along with it.
In addition, I was trying to finish off the remaining UW blocks I had (I couldn't go through more than 1-2 blocks per week!).

Well, after finishing my DIT, I decided to take NBME 5 (due to the advice of many people on the forum).
I got a 430, which is equivalent to a 205
That means i experienced a 40 point increase!

Whatever I did, it worked! So I decided that from here till my exam I will not touch anything other than (DIT+FA+UW), and everytime I finish one round I'll take an NBME.





So beginning tomorrow my strategy will be:

-For 1 week
Finishing off (finally) the remaining UW questions! Plus redoing questions of my weak areas.

-For 3 weeks
DIT + FA. Plus doing UW, second pass, marked/incorrect (almost 20 blocks, so i'll do a block a day).

-NBME

-For 2 weeks:
Final review of FA and UW notes.

-NBME

-1 week:
Quick scan and concentrating on my weak areas.

-EXAM!

This schedule is 7 weeks (maybe too long?)
My target score is +230. How much more time do you guys think i'll need to reach my target score?
All of you guys have helped me alot during this month, so i would definitely appreciate your input and advice.

Thnx in advance!
Man.... see myself in your situation.....:-)
Exactly the same condition....


except dat, i took 1 nbme before and that was like i cant even say that here,
and after that I did Dit plus uw and thats it, i went 2 165 equivallent...:-)

my exam date is 20th june and, wanna do nothing but knowing Fa in and out....

Good luck.
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Man, i hated this nbme 5...one whole damn block was molec which f'd my **** up badly.....good job increasing the score that much...i made a similar jump but not that big...but i made the mistake of not reviewing my weaker subjects before taking the nbme....but I'm glad i finally got over the passing mark...my exam is on june 22, just doing the same thing, keep over going dit and first aid

id like to add i like usmlerx a lot...its really solidifying things...and its asking a a lot of the same concepts i saw from usmle world....
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and oh yea the curve on these things are f'in ridiculous....
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