On the verge of BREAKING DOWN AND CRYING - USMLE Forums
USMLE Forums Logo
USMLE Forums         Your Reliable USMLE Online Community     Members     Posts
Home
USMLE Articles
USMLE News
USMLE Polls
USMLE Books
USMLE Apps
Go Back   USMLE Forums > USMLE Step 1 Forum

USMLE Step 1 Forum USMLE Step 1 Discussion Forum: Let's talk about anything related to USMLE Step 1 exam


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-14-2012
USMLE Forums Newbie
 
Steps History: Not yet
Posts: 8
Threads: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Reputation: 10
Angry On the verge of BREAKING DOWN AND CRYING

hi, its my 1st ever post on here. i am writing because i am feeling sooo depressed. i have been studying with a baby for nearly 2 years on/off.

- i did kaplan lecture notes (no videos) twice (once 1.5 yrs ago and once like 6-7 months back)
- i read goljan (2 yrs ago, heard audio and annotated in my goljan book)
- i have read FA 2-3 times already
- i signed up for UW and doing it the second time and still averaging 50-60% and also annotated in my FA
- i took 1 online NBME and 2 offline NBMEs and failed horribly (between 150-160)


the last NBME i took was yesterday. since then i have been crying and devastated as all the hard work i'm putting in cant be seen. at least by now i should be hitting a borderline pass. please someone guide me, please tell me that this isnt happening to just me!! anxiously waiting for replies...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message



  #2  
Old 08-14-2012
imgchuchu's Avatar
USMLE Forums Veteran
 
Steps History: Not yet
Posts: 218
Threads: 4
Thanked 74 Times in 55 Posts
Reputation: 84
Default

You read Goljan and Kaplan 2 yrs ago???how can you retain what you read once even 2 months ago?you have to make out quality time for your studies else I doubt if you will see improvement in your scoresthis exam needs multiple repetition of your study materials and you should not have long breaks in-between your preparation else you will always go back to square one.forget nbmes for now and build your basics,that's also the stage I'm in and I don't think there's any other way around passing this test
Gluck
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
The above post was thanked by:
Step1Dream (08-14-2012)
  #3  
Old 08-14-2012
hoor's Avatar
USMLE Forums Addict
 
Steps History: 1+CK+CS
Posts: 141
Threads: 16
Thanked 51 Times in 26 Posts
Reputation: 61
Send a message via Skype™ to hoor
Default relax

you need to relax. i myself havent appeared in exam yet but i can suggest you that taking exams right now is not a good idea. listen to kaplan videos and read first aid. you must be knowing now where you are lacking in concept after the exams. so focus on that area and most importantly have faith in yourself. study with a cool head. study in a proper order subject wise dont jump on to doing papers yet. i am sure you will do it
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
The above post was thanked by:
Step1Dream (08-14-2012)
  #4  
Old 08-14-2012
USMLE Forums Newbie
 
Steps History: Not yet
Posts: 8
Threads: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Reputation: 10
Default

thanks for replying.

i do refer back to kaplan every now and then but like u said i havent properly sat down and re-read the whole set in the past few months. since i moved onto UW and FA i thought that maybe since its hard to retain KLN in its entirety, just learn the concepts from UW and keep revising FA to improve the score.

unfortunately im not seeing any positive results.

how much longer do u think it will take to do all the kaplan? i am really REALLY dreading doing all that alllll over again, just thinking about it is giving me a headache because i think i have come very far out now.

btw how are your NBMEs like?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #5  
Old 08-14-2012
USMLE Forums Newbie
 
Steps History: Not yet
Posts: 8
Threads: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Reputation: 10
Unhappy

@hoor, thanks for replying.

the kaplan videos are the thing i didnt do, only because i felt i was better at remembering/retaining after i read, underline, circle and highlight instead of sitting and watching a video.

have u watched all the videos? how helpful were they? i feel that some of it is concepts that i am lacking, but many times i keep saying oh dang i know this but cant recall. and yes, the pressure kills my nerves really badly.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #6  
Old 08-14-2012
hoor's Avatar
USMLE Forums Addict
 
Steps History: 1+CK+CS
Posts: 141
Threads: 16
Thanked 51 Times in 26 Posts
Reputation: 61
Send a message via Skype™ to hoor
Thumbs Up

yes i watced them.you dont have to just sit and watch you can add points to thenotes and circle or whatever that makes you remember while watching them.thats what i do.i didnt do kaplan videos of patho yet.thet say goljan is enough.i started my prep few months back only.will start with my first aid after patho is done.just relav.if you have read them once no matter how long back it will come back to you after one revision.there is no short cut.jus start with kaplans.hope it helps and when is your exam?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
The above post was thanked by:
Step1Dream (08-14-2012)
  #7  
Old 08-14-2012
USMLE Forums Newbie
 
Steps History: Not yet
Posts: 8
Threads: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Reputation: 10
Default

i am limited for time and i was hoping to take it end of next month, although i havent registered (wanted to only schedule when i got at least a passing score on an NBME).

how long did it take you to do the videos? how much time am i looking at for these videos if i can put in 8 hours a day on them?

what about DIT?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #8  
Old 08-14-2012
Step-step's Avatar
USMLE Forums Guru
 
Steps History: 1+CK+CS
Posts: 309
Threads: 19
Thanked 117 Times in 85 Posts
Reputation: 127
Default

hey, it's hard to generate good results when you have other important aspects of life distracting you. Like others suggested, you have take out a decent number of hours of the day just for studying and studying alone. Seems to me from your nbme scores that you might be lacking in basic concepts. The best way to improve over all is to do those kaplan vidoes... if you do not want to do all of them I strongly suggest you watch the whole of physiology at least. And don't do random questions if you're doing random questions on uworld. In my opinion its a very bad way to learn... do organ/system wise on tutor mode and make notes. do random closer to the exam date. Don't be depressed... rather, look forward to the progress you're going to make Good luck.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
The above post was thanked by:
Step1Dream (08-14-2012)
  #9  
Old 08-14-2012
dr_mhm's Avatar
USMLE Forums Guru
 
Steps History: 1+CK+CS
Posts: 460
Threads: 100
Thanked 233 Times in 147 Posts
Reputation: 243
Default

Ey, you can do it, but you have to have your basics, understand what you're doing.
I did step 1 with a 3 year old and 8 months pregnant on the day of the exam, I did step 2 when my baby was 6 months old. It's hard!
Important: get your BASICS! UW is great but you have to understand what you're learning, you can't just memorize the concepts without a solid foundation.
KLN is good, yes, it's long, you don't have to memorize but UNDERSTAND; the rest will come by itself.
I never did videos as I'm better studying by myself and writing notes and so on, but that's your personal preference.
Good luck!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
The above post was thanked by:
Step1Dream (08-14-2012)
  #10  
Old 08-14-2012
USMLE Forums Scout
 
Steps History: Not yet
Posts: 46
Threads: 13
Thanked 19 Times in 16 Posts
Reputation: 29
Default

give in some quality time mam
atlest 5-6 hours s day

finish kaplan reading once then watch videos if u can read it once more after the videos
ur score will sky rocket

but grasping the concept and craming some of FA goes hand in hand

beat of luck
__________________
em so bad i even make medicine sick
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
The above post was thanked by:
Step1Dream (08-14-2012)
  #11  
Old 08-14-2012
USMLE Forums Newbie
 
Steps History: Not yet
Posts: 8
Threads: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Reputation: 10
Default

thank you for replying everyone. seriously needed some feedback. so majority of the votes go for doing kaplan all over again. my mind wasnt prepared for such a long journey. i guess i should start with the 3 P's and then go from there...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #12  
Old 08-14-2012
imgchuchu's Avatar
USMLE Forums Veteran
 
Steps History: Not yet
Posts: 218
Threads: 4
Thanked 74 Times in 55 Posts
Reputation: 84
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Step1Dream View Post
thank you for replying everyone. seriously needed some feedback. so majority of the votes go for doing kaplan all over again. my mind wasnt prepared for such a long journey. i guess i should start with the 3 P's and then go from there...
go through kln & VIDEOS just once,get pathoma(he makes pathology easy).my target is going through fa & pathoma 5times b4 exam and i believe with that,we can beat 230
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #13  
Old 08-14-2012
USMLE Forums Scout
 
Steps History: Not yet
Posts: 46
Threads: 13
Thanked 19 Times in 16 Posts
Reputation: 29
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by imgchuchu View Post
go through kln & VIDEOS just once,get pathoma(he makes pathology easy).my target is going through fa & pathoma 5times b4 exam and i believe with that,we can beat 230
5 times both of them

even thinking that sweats me
where do u get that much motivation from???
__________________
em so bad i even make medicine sick
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #14  
Old 08-14-2012
Step-step's Avatar
USMLE Forums Guru
 
Steps History: 1+CK+CS
Posts: 309
Threads: 19
Thanked 117 Times in 85 Posts
Reputation: 127
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by imgchuchu View Post
go through kln & VIDEOS just once,get pathoma(he makes pathology easy).my target is going through fa & pathoma 5times b4 exam and i believe with that,we can beat 230
how long is pathoma... as in how many hours worth are the videos/lectures put together.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #15  
Old 08-14-2012
dr_mhm's Avatar
USMLE Forums Guru
 
Steps History: 1+CK+CS
Posts: 460
Threads: 100
Thanked 233 Times in 147 Posts
Reputation: 243
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Step-step View Post
how long is pathoma... as in how many hours worth are the videos/lectures put together.
Don't think in how long or how many hours.... it's as long as it takes to get the concepts. Some people can spent months on a small book and others go quick through a big one..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message



  #16  
Old 08-14-2012
Step-step's Avatar
USMLE Forums Guru
 
Steps History: 1+CK+CS
Posts: 309
Threads: 19
Thanked 117 Times in 85 Posts
Reputation: 127
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dr_mhm View Post
Don't think in how long or how many hours.... it's as long as it takes to get the concepts. Some people can spent months on a small book and others go quick through a big one..
yes I get that everyone takes a different amount of time to grasp a concept, but I was looking for a purely quantitative measure...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #17  
Old 08-14-2012
imgchuchu's Avatar
USMLE Forums Veteran
 
Steps History: Not yet
Posts: 218
Threads: 4
Thanked 74 Times in 55 Posts
Reputation: 84
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Step-step View Post
how long is pathoma... as in how many hours worth are the videos/lectures put together.
video is less than 35hrs,204 pgs note.its pretti nice
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
The above post was thanked by:
Step-step (08-14-2012)
  #18  
Old 08-14-2012
Step-step's Avatar
USMLE Forums Guru
 
Steps History: 1+CK+CS
Posts: 309
Threads: 19
Thanked 117 Times in 85 Posts
Reputation: 127
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by imgchuchu View Post
video is less than 35hrs,204 pgs note.its pretti nice
Thank you
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #19  
Old 08-14-2012
hoor's Avatar
USMLE Forums Addict
 
Steps History: 1+CK+CS
Posts: 141
Threads: 16
Thanked 51 Times in 26 Posts
Reputation: 61
Send a message via Skype™ to hoor
Help hey

Quote:
Originally Posted by imgchuchu View Post
go through kln & VIDEOS just once,get pathoma(he makes pathology easy).my target is going through fa & pathoma 5times b4 exam and i believe with that,we can beat 230
hi i am also thinkin of reading pathoma.but wasnt sure if i should do goljans too? i mean i have 3 options : kaplans, Goljan,Pathoma.what should i do? any suggestion?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #20  
Old 08-15-2012
USMLE Forums Scout
 
Steps History: Step 1 Only
Posts: 11
Threads: 1
Thanked 18 Times in 3 Posts
Reputation: 28
Default Suggestion?

Hey there,

First, hang in there you can do it! Really!
I have one suggestion. From my point of view you only have a set window of TIME that is effective for studying for the test, or ANY test!!!
What I mean is, if you study too long, you will forget the things that you studied 2 years, or even 6 months ago.
I scored 250, and my main strategy was I did Uworld twice, and then some (did the ones I got wrong over again one time). It's not a magic formula, it's not the only way--BUT....in your situation, maaaaybe just do that. Try to memorize their questions (they are very similar to the real thing), not just what they are but HOW they are asked. And set a time limit. Do the whole thing two and a half times in 2 months. And that's it. On the first time around, maybe you read the explanations through, but after that just skim the "bottom line" or whatever it is. The key is time frame.
What do you think?
Chris
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
The above post was thanked by:
mnos7i (08-15-2012), Step1Dream (08-15-2012)
  #21  
Old 08-15-2012
USMLE Forums Newbie
 
Steps History: Not yet
Posts: 8
Threads: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Reputation: 10
Default

@hotsmeish, you did UW twice and FA and that's it? i assume you are an american graduate or still in med school so many basic concepts are fresh in your mind. the problem is that i took the basic sciences like 5 years back so i did kaplan but it was a while back so i dont remember much. i was focusing more on UW and FA these days but my scores aren't improving... by the time i would take an NBME, my revision would be so prolonged that things i read from 10-12 days back i did not revise right before. could that be a reason, the way that i am reviewing my stuff right before the NBME?

another thing you pointed out is the time factor. i actually just got my triad so now i am pressured for time. i put a goal in front of me, paid the fee, in hopes of studying harder and more effective.

so i will be focusing on some kaplan videos and keep doing questions and FA...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #22  
Old 08-16-2012
USMLE Forums Scout
 
Steps History: Step 1 Only
Posts: 11
Threads: 1
Thanked 18 Times in 3 Posts
Reputation: 28
Default

Yes, I am American and in med school still.
I really do wish you the best. I feel for your situation.
Do what is best for you. What you just mentioned sounds like a great plan
May I just interject one thought?
They can ask anything in the world on this test. And they do. How on earth do people actually do it?? There's no way to know all the stuff that they ask, for anyone.
So I'll just share my mindset when I was studying. Simply: the most high-yield in the least amount of time. Sounds simple. But it's easy to get side-tracted I think. So I would say for you:
Do questions,questions,questions,questions,questions, questions,questions,questions,questions,questions, questions,questions,questions.
Do them over and over again.
Some people think this is like studying for a math test, or even just another medical school class, where you study the material you are expected to know.
But what are you expected to know for this test? Freaking everything. Great. It's more like a strategy to make money on a trip to Vegas. Roll the dice. The more questions you do, the higher the probability that you will roll the right questions on the test. That was why I did Uworld 2.5 times. I KNEW those questions. Hands down.
Keep doing questions so that when you get to the real test you will have a higher PROBABILITY of answering correctly. It works.
So that is my qualm with videos: less high yield per time spent. But some are good so use them selectively! Cheers to you. Keep in touch I would love to hear that you rocked the test
Chris

Last edited by hotsmeish; 08-16-2012 at 08:46 PM.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #23  
Old 08-16-2012
lysogeny's Avatar
USMLE Forums Scout
 
Steps History: 1+CK+CS+3
Posts: 57
Threads: 6
Thanked 39 Times in 18 Posts
Reputation: 49
Default

Hey there,

Sit down and get yourself together and relax! It seems like you're on the verge of a burnout. But you just need to overcome that!

First, you should set your expectations. Realize that preparing for the USMLE is in NO way close to being easy and that there is NO shortcut. Of course, there are individual variations in terms of individual strengths, weaknesses, memory retention, graduate vs student, etc. but you should be able to gauge yourself by now. Am I a fast learner? Average? Slow learner? Then custom-fit your preparation and schedule realistically to your own individual capabilities.

In your post you said that you went thru Kaplan LN and Goljan around 2 years ago and 6 mos. or 1/2 year ago. Truth be told, I had trouble recalling information from Kaplan that I read even just 2 months ago! (And I even went thru the videos!) So I think you should stop torturing yourself for not being able to remember information stored that long ago because in my own opinion, that is completely expected.

From what I gathered through leafing throughout these forum pages and elsewhere, there are 3 phases in an average USMLE preparation:
1. Core basic review (Kaplan LN + vids, Goljan, FA -- but FA imo is only good for an overview, only after you've mastered Kaplan/Goljan)
2. Simulation + Identifying/Strengthening of testable concepts
(UWorld, etc)
3. Benchmarking (NBMEs)
4. Others (DIT, Free 150)

I think what seems to be the problem with your prep is #1. You need to sit down, go back through your core concepts and principles, and master it. There is not easy way around it... If you are getting tired or horrified at the thought of sitting through it again, why not try doing the Kaplan videos this time? I swear it helped me alot, it adds around 50% testable knowledge that is not present in the Kaplan LN alone. That's just in my case.

Once you've had the patience to finish #1, go again thru #2 and finally to #3. You might expect subpar results at first even with all the preparations you went thru, but focus on your weaknesses in the NBME score report and your score should go up in no time.

Now #4, is just optional. I found DIT helpful in benchmarking. When I got an NBME score that was lower than my expectations, I just watched the particular chapter in DIT that I got a low score in and did it along FA second readings. Free 150 is just to familiarize yourself with the software and tutorial itself, when you're pretty close to the exam.

Sorry to say, but Step 1 knowledge is very volatile. You have to go through it and take the test while the knowledge lasts.

This post is too long I think. Hope this helps.
__________________
Ha! My eyebags ain't Gucci but can sure fit Schwartz, Nelsons, and Williams in em!
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #24  
Old 08-16-2012
USMLE Forums Newbie
 
Steps History: Not yet
Posts: 8
Threads: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Reputation: 10
Default

@hotsmeish and lysogeny, thank u both for giving excellent advice, i really appreciate it! u guys really simplified it and i will try following your advice.

i have done alot of questions, and i will keep doing them. i have finally started kaplan videos (after taking a long deep breath) and i started the first with physiology. i want to do path and pharm as well and then review the rest of my FA and try another NBME.

what do you guys think? how long should i give myself for these 3 videos? im trying to do 8 hours a day but cant go beyond watching 5 hrs
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #25  
Old 08-17-2012
USMLE Forums Scout
 
Steps History: Step 1 Only
Posts: 11
Threads: 1
Thanked 18 Times in 3 Posts
Reputation: 28
Default

I think I agrees with lysogeny for the most part with getting the core concepts down. What I was thinking was trying to get the core down as much as you could while doing the questions be because that is how it will stick in your brain and make the best use of your time. I would say videos do not serve this purpose at all, but then again I may have taken my background and foundation for granted. There simply isn't time for her to JUST sit down and "remaster" scientific foundations beyond what she is comfortable with. She has to know the questions they will ask.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message



  #26  
Old 08-17-2012
USMLE Forums Guru
 
Steps History: 1+CK+CS+3
Posts: 457
Threads: 62
Thanked 273 Times in 186 Posts
Reputation: 283
Default

hi....first of kudos to ppl like you who have so many things on their minds but still deal with this beast called USMLE. regarding your preparation, i can only say that you should kind of start all over again without setting yourself any time limits because the motive is to ace the test n not just to pass. to make the reading more interesting, you can start systemic reading instead of subject wise as u have already done that. i would sincerely suggest to watch Physio,Biocehm n Behav Sciences videos. some ppl like Neuroanat videos too but i never watched n can not comment on that. plz do not waste time on Kaplan Path and Micro. i read Kpaln Micro n honestly it was total waste of time. For i path i know Goljan is good but these days Pathoma is getting rave reviews but i don't know anything about that. as a suggestion you can start the same way as we r taught in med schools...like starting with Anat n physio. one thing u have to make sure is that tyo have a schedule. even if u read for 4-5 hours a day, it has to be a routine n very focussed. reading here n there will not help you. do not take assessment tests until u feel u r close to be ready otherwise it will only depress you. any questions???will be more than happy to answer. Good Luck and God will help you
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
The above post was thanked by:
Step1Dream (08-17-2012)
  #27  
Old 08-17-2012
USMLE Forums Scout
 
Steps History: Step 1 Only
Posts: 11
Threads: 1
Thanked 18 Times in 3 Posts
Reputation: 28
Default

I think you are right for a person who almost wants to go to med school all over again but she doesn't have time. It takes two years for all that. She has to do Qs
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #28  
Old 08-17-2012
lysogeny's Avatar
USMLE Forums Scout
 
Steps History: 1+CK+CS+3
Posts: 57
Threads: 6
Thanked 39 Times in 18 Posts
Reputation: 49
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hotsmeish View Post
I think I agrees with lysogeny for the most part with getting the core concepts down. What I was thinking was trying to get the core down as much as you could while doing the questions be because that is how it will stick in your brain and make the best use of your time. I would say videos do not serve this purpose at all, but then again I may have taken my background and foundation for granted. There simply isn't time for her to JUST sit down and "remaster" scientific foundations beyond what she is comfortable with. She has to know the questions they will ask.
Hee hee, I just read your previous posts just now. So I guess we're a bit on opposite ends... to compromise, Step1Dream can do select videos of topics where he/she is weak at. (Step1Dream, you can then see if you did improve, if that's what you prefer.) But I really think you have to sit through the whole thing again. Make sure to consume and digest every info, and not just mechanically sit through the review. Yes, kinda like disregarding any previous review done 2 years back. Just my 2 cents.

Then do/redo the questions. I agree with Hotsmeish that the more questions you cover, the better. You get more and more familiar with the style of questioning (very very similar to the real thing), master techniques on how to maximize your time, strengthen high-yield concepts, and develop testmanship. All crucial.

It all boils down to whatever you're comfortable in doing and what your goal is.

Best of luck!
__________________
Ha! My eyebags ain't Gucci but can sure fit Schwartz, Nelsons, and Williams in em!
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
The above post was thanked by:
hotsmeish (08-17-2012)
  #29  
Old 08-17-2012
USMLE Forums Guru
 
Steps History: 1+CK+CS+3
Posts: 457
Threads: 62
Thanked 273 Times in 186 Posts
Reputation: 283
Default

no it does not take two years to do that because i have been through it, so i know it. secondly i agree that she does not have time so it is more important to use whatever time she has to the best because there is no use to rush and then doing badly later on. time spent in the start always pays off and because she has read the notes once even if it was random, she will always recall when she goes through them again so it will also take less time. at this time her priority has to be read well instead of read fast. As far as almost going back to medical school is concerned, it IS like going back to medical school when you are already a graduate and probably read these subjects some 4-5 yrs back.as far as questions are concerned, i agree the more the better, and she can subscribe to UW and keep on doing as she reads the topics. therr are no short cuts in this test.
Quote:
Originally Posted by hotsmeish View Post
I think you are right for a person who almost wants to go to med school all over again but she doesn't have time. It takes two years for all that. She has to do Qs
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #30  
Old 08-17-2012
USMLE Forums Scout
 
Steps History: Step 1 Only
Posts: 11
Threads: 1
Thanked 18 Times in 3 Posts
Reputation: 28
Default

Certainly. But I don't consider doing Qs as shortcutting. I do think reading is a waste of time with the amount of time she has, except for explanations. And of course referencing when you don't understand something. Also writing things out is a good way to make things stick.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #31  
Old 08-17-2012
USMLE Forums Guru
 
Steps History: 1+CK+CS+3
Posts: 457
Threads: 62
Thanked 273 Times in 186 Posts
Reputation: 283
Default

each to their own....whether u read before doing questions or u read after doing the questions. whatever works for you. but reading is definitely not waste of time because then u spend less time on doing questions. i did Uworld twice in 21 days with taking notes and reading explanations because i was not doing it blind. i agree that doing questions is most important part of preparation but we all have our own strengths n weakness so telling others what is wrong and what is right is kind of stretching it a bit too far. we can only suggest her an at the end of the day it is she who will see what works the best for her. some ppl like to spend more time before questions and some do it after the questions but basically its the same thing whether u take one road or the other. as far as the number of questions is concerned, i was able to do UW twic n Kaplan with annotations within 45 days, so i can only talk about my way of reading n suggest
Quote:
Originally Posted by hotsmeish View Post
Certainly. But I don't consider doing Qs as shortcutting. I do think reading is a waste of time with the amount of time she has, except for explanations. And of course referencing when you don't understand something. Also writing things out is a good way to make things stick.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #32  
Old 08-17-2012
USMLE Forums Scout
 
Steps History: Step 1 Only
Posts: 11
Threads: 1
Thanked 18 Times in 3 Posts
Reputation: 28
Default

Sounds like you almost did the same thing as I did with UW done twice in under a month. So your behavior says you agree. Reading for the sake of reading is low yield she already said it doesn't work for her! After you read a couple chapters on gram negative and gr positives does that mean you will know how to answer Qs on it? Not as much as if you saw how a Q was asked and then read it for that reason! Your not just learning to learn but to take a test

Last edited by hotsmeish; 08-17-2012 at 09:56 AM.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #33  
Old 08-17-2012
USMLE Forums Guru
 
Steps History: 1+CK+CS+3
Posts: 457
Threads: 62
Thanked 273 Times in 186 Posts
Reputation: 283
Default

hey come on and chill out. why are you taking it so personal??? its not even about you or me. and as far as the learning is concerned, i don't need ur judgement or certification whether its about the test or the learning because i know wht do i need it for. good luck to you for the future test and als just because you do not agree with someone's way of doing stuff, it doesn't mean the others are wrong. you may get some sort of pride in telling me that MY BEHAVIOUR TELLS THAT I AGREE WITH YOU, but honestly i don't give a damn whether you agree with me or not because i have enough onmy plate to agree and disagree with. so just take a chill pill and stop worrying about others' behaviour and trying to make them agree with you. you are right in your own sense and i am in my own. we are here to help and not to argue with each other but still if it gives you some happiness, then yes you can go ahead n do it. i am out of this discussion/. Good luck to everyone and God bless u guys
Quote:
Originally Posted by hotsmeish View Post
Sounds like you almost did the same thing as I did with UW done twice in under a month. So your behavior says you agree. Reading for the sake of reading is low yield she already said it doesn't work for her! After you read a couple chapters on gram negative and gr positives does that mean you will know how to answer Qs on it? Not as much as if you saw how a Q was asked and then read it for that reason! Your not just learning to learn but to take a test
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #34  
Old 08-17-2012
USMLE Forums Scout
 
Steps History: Step 1 Only
Posts: 11
Threads: 1
Thanked 18 Times in 3 Posts
Reputation: 28
Default

Ha. Alright dude. I was personally enjoying myself and thought she might benefit from what we said.... But whatever
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #35  
Old 08-17-2012
USMLE Forums Newbie
 
Steps History: Not yet
Posts: 8
Threads: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Reputation: 10
Default

thank you for all the great suggestions. just like we are different people, we all have individual styles of studying and what works for one may not work for the other. i have started my prep now and i pray i start seeing changes in my scores. i hope we all benefit in our prep from all these suggestions to passing this exam. good luck!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message






Reply

Tags
Step-1-Preparation, USMLE-Moms

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the USMLE Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:
Medical School
Choose "---" if you don't want to tell. AMG for US & Canadian medical schools. IMG for all other medical schools.
USMLE Steps History
What steps finished! Example: 1+CK+CS+3 = Passed Step 1, Step 2 CK, Step 2 CS, and Step 3.

Choose "---" if you don't want to tell.

Favorite USMLE Books
What USMLE books you really think are useful. Leave blank if you don't want to tell.
Location
Where you live. Leave blank if you don't want to tell.

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Breaking Bad News to the Patient chulady USMLE Step 2 CS SP Challenges 3 04-08-2012 07:08 PM
On the verge of panic...! jawaadq USMLE Step 1 Forum 0 08-15-2011 10:21 PM
Few weeks old crying baby 1TA2B USMLE Step 2 CK Forum 10 04-21-2011 06:30 PM
Goljan Rapid Review - Breaking it down to Step 1 and Step 2 HY info! Tig2575 USMLE Step 1 Forum 1 01-17-2011 03:07 PM

RSS Feed
Find Us on Facebook
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

USMLE® & other trade marks belong to their respective owners, read full disclaimer
USMLE Forums created under Creative Commons 3.0 License. (2009-2014)