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Well, I guess I owe it back to this great forum, which has helped me a lot in soo many ways to prepare myself for step 1, and now that I'm finally done with a score of 243/86, I have to say I'm pretty relieved.

To start off with, I'm an IMG, YOG-2012, from India.

I started by preparations around May 2012, started by doing the Kaplan lecture videos along with KLN. Most of which I found quite interesting (except maybe cell bio, histo and neuroanat, that guy is really terrible). The KLN notes are quite adequate for most subjects, in fact might be a tad too detailed for some (like neuroanat, cell bio, histo in my personal opinion). Some KLN notes are indispensable, like physio, pharm, micro and immunology.

It took me about 2 months to do the videos once along with side by side KLN reading and annotation of extra points from the videos. I did NOT do path from either KLN or the kaplan videos. I instead listened to the Goljan audios, which might be quite old by now, but its still quite a gem, and really makes you think in terms of how the USMLE questions are framed. I did the audios along with goljan's Rapid Review, which is another excellent book, because it really combines every subject into that book, a lot of correlations and connections, which you really need for such an exam.

So after my 1st read of all KLN except path and Goljan RR, I did a quite 2 week revision of everything I'd read till then, before starting on tackling uworld. I think thats quite crucial, the fact that its necessary that you are good at your kaplan material before you start uworld, makes learning from uworld much more easier, because then you're just learning new facts, not re-learning facts you forgot from your 1st read.

Uworld as an indicator of your performance and progress has been discussed elsewhere, but to add my two cents worth, i found it quite useful, at the start i was getting around 60%, but then i moved on to 75% and over the last few blocks i was crossing 80% occasionally. While it may not be a predictor of your actual score in any way, its a good indicator of how well prepared you are.

Also make uworld notes in a book of something of points you didnt know previously. These notes come useful the day before your exam, as a quick review. Helped me loads. Uworld took me about a month and 10 days to complete fully, which i had another 20 days left on my subscription, i decided not to do the uworld questions i got wrong again, because i had taken extensive notes the first time around, which i trusted to help me the day before my exam.

Also needless to say, but do uworld online, offers tremendous advantages.

At this point i'd like to say i did not touch FA even once for my exam. I bought the book ages ago, and planned to read it along side my uworld preps, but i never found the time or the motivation, because i was quite comfortable with the KLN+goljan RR, i didnt want to change books. I just kept referring and reviewing those books instead of FA. While FA might be useful for people who don't wanna go through those KLN volumes again, its not a must, as most of it is covered by KLN+uworld anyway.

I took NBME 12 around 2 months before my exam (right before i started uworld) and i got a 220, which i felt was decent for that time.

I took NBME 7 and NBME 13 around a week before my exam and got 242 and 252 respectively, so for me NBME 7 was the most predictive i guess.

UWSA, like many others have said, over predicts, UWSA 1- 255, UWSA 2- 262

The free 150 was a good simple test just to get the brain cells working, and i did it the night of my test. Got 91%, but i dont think too much emphasis should be made on that score really.

My last 2 weeks before the exam was spent doing NBMEs, UWSAs, revising KLN and goljan and my uworld notes (2 fat notebooks)

I did not do much studying in the last week though, i guess i knew i had done all i could do and i just wanted to get the exam done with (i had some complications with my prometric centre, resulting in my exam being postponed by a week, to a different city)

The day of the exam

The questions were predominantly straightforward questions, i had a habit right from my uworld days of marking questions even if i had a 1% doubt about the answer i had marked, so by those standards, per block in the exam i marked around 20, which means around 25-26 per block i was sure of my answer, which is quite different from how i felt doing the nbmes or uworld.

There were around 6-8 questions per block that were quite hard. Solvable i felt, but hard. Based on concepts i was comfortable with, but the question that was asked, or the graphs or images that was displayed complicated issues.

In the whole exam, there must have been only 3 WTF questions to my memory (one of which i got right! i checked it out online later)

About managing your breaks, i didnt find time an issue at all, i invariably had 5 mins left from my block everytime even after reviewing my answers, so i had all that time added to my break. I ended my exam with half hour of break time still remaining.

About images. Most image questions can be answered from the stem of the question without really needing to look at the image. In a few cases the image just served as a confirmation of the answer i already thought of.

Auscultation questions, i got a couple. One was without a question stem pretty much, and the murmur wasn't exactly very clear, but it wasn't impossible either.

Well, I think that's all I can really think of telling people about my experience. Any questions, feel free to ask!

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Oh and also, there were around 8 questions that were directly ripped off from uworld and nbmes, so make sure you do all your nbme forms!
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Was it easy for you to review the Kaplan and RR during solving questions period ? I mean , I felt that FA advantage is that you can have a quick review of all High-yield material by doing it multiple times in less time then re-reading the main notes
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Well, for me, since i had already finished 2 reads of KLN and goljan RR, i was quite comfortable with those books, so whenever i needed to refer or read up certain topics during question solving time, it wasn't much of an issue because a quick read would help me remember what i had forgotten.

For me once i've studied a book and comfortable with it, its hard to change over to a completely new book. While i agree, FA has numerous advantages to people who can change over, i still stand by my point that its not a necessity.

KLN is a necessity though, because without building core concepts, remembering FA by rote isnt gonna help matters.
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I see your point in not changing the books .

So , you were just referring to them , you didn't do a complete 3rd read or something ?
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Errm, by the time i was done with question solving from uworld, i ended up reading most parts of KLN and RR (or atleast parts i wasnt still comfortable with) whenever i looked up stuff and all.

I didnt do an official 3rd read, but i guess all that looking up and referring, and the 2 weeks before the exam of random reading from KLN and RR might all account for a 3rd read perhaps?
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Errm, by the time i was done with question solving from uworld, i ended up reading most parts of KLN and RR (or atleast parts i wasnt still comfortable with) whenever i looked up stuff and all.

I didnt do an official 3rd read, but i guess all that looking up and referring, and the 2 weeks before the exam of random reading from KLN and RR might all account for a 3rd read perhaps?
Congrats on your great score. Would you say Uworld is easier or harder than the real exam.
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1- what about ur basics ? if someone with poor one ...'re kaplan videos & notes enough ?

2- why didn't use kaplan for path?

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how about pharm ? was it tested heavily ?
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Well, I guess I owe it back to this great forum, which has helped me a lot in soo many ways to prepare myself for step 1, and now that I'm finally done with a score of 243/86, I have to say I'm pretty relieved.
Well, I think that's all I can really think of telling people about my experience. Any questions, feel free to ask!

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congratz doctor for getting such great score which is mine dream,hope one day i will do mine best and wil get such high score...
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Congrats on your great score. Would you say Uworld is easier or harder than the real exam.
Uworld was definitely harder! 95% of the uworld questions are 2 step type of questions, as in, for example in some questions you'd need to recognise what disease they're talking about, and once you identify that, the question would be based on some factoid of the disease, example being for B cell lymphoma, the stem would give you clues to B cell lymphoma, but the question asked is not the diagnosis, but the molecular level pathology.

The real exam had a LOT more straight forward 1 step questions.
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1- what about ur basics ? if someone with poor one ...'re kaplan videos & notes enough ?

2- why didn't use kaplan for path?

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1) I believe even if your basics are poor, the kaplan videos+notes should be enough, because the concepts are explained quite beautifully. Although you might need to have reference books handy, like ganong for physio, harper for physio, katzung for pharm, robbins for path, etc.

2) I've heard from a lot of sources that when it comes to path, kaplan is much inferior compared to goljan. So based on that advice i didnt touch path from kaplan. And i think its a good decision, because goljan RR is a goldmine of information.
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how about pharm ? was it tested heavily ?
Since its been almost a month since my exam, my memory of the questions asked isn't that sharp, but i do remember there being a fair number of pharm questions, but nothing too complicated. Most straightforward stuff or stuff where with a little application you could narrow down your answer choices.
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congratz doctor for getting such great score which is mine dream,hope one day i will do mine best and wil get such high score...
thanks for sharing exame experience.
Thank you . I'm sure you'll do great too!
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1) I believe even if your basics are poor, the kaplan videos+notes should be enough, because the concepts are explained quite beautifully. Although you might need to have reference books handy, like ganong for physio, harper for physio, katzung for pharm, robbins for path, etc.

2) I've heard from a lot of sources that when it comes to path, kaplan is much inferior compared to goljan. So based on that advice i didnt touch path from kaplan. And i think its a good decision, because goljan RR is a goldmine of information.
how much time do u need to finish goljan?? ..what about pathoma??
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How many questions there are from behavioural science? Can you recall the topics?
I don't recall the exact number. But there were quite a few. Ethics, a few questions were slightly vague. As in, i thought none of the answers were completely right. Apart from that got some questions on psychopharm, some psych questions.
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how much time do u need to finish goljan?? ..what about pathoma??
I did the audios plus reading the relevant material in RR. Then i read all the stuff uncovered in the audios which took me another 10 days i think.

But i was quite unclear after the 1st read, the 2nd read is what helped me retain info.
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congratulations on the great score and thank you for sharing your experience!
can you please explain how you did your revision? Any tips for revision and how many times and ways we should do it so we don't keep forgetting the material
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Well my first KLN revision, i just studied all the notes+ goljan RR again. After that, while doing UW, whenever i wanted to refer information, i'd turn to KLN, and make sure i read that topic again, so by the time i was done with UW, i would have read atleast the high yield topics atleast thrice.

Between finishing UW and my actual exam date, i just kept randomly revising topics i wasnt confident about.
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Well my first KLN revision, i just studied all the notes+ goljan RR again. After that, while doing UW, whenever i wanted to refer information, i'd turn to KLN, and make sure i read that topic again, so by the time i was done with UW, i would have read atleast the high yield topics atleast thrice.

Between finishing UW and my actual exam date, i just kept randomly revising topics i wasnt confident about.
thank you, that sounds very simple i go over some subjects 4-5 times and still forget, it's very frustrating
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Yeah thats normal. Thats why solving questions is extremely important! Helps in retaining information.
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Yeah thats normal. Thats why solving questions is extremely important! Helps in retaining information.
Do you suggest in doing the questions after trying to memorize the entire subject or the same day? How did you break down a typical day in terms of revision and questions?
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I did questions only after 2 reads of each subject. I used to do random timed blocks, around 2-3 a day, and then do the explanations to each question the next day, and revise relevant topics side by side. I didnt follow a fixed schedule or pattern really.
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Hey congrats on the great score . I am also an IMG, actually USIMG, from India. i finished in August 2012, started my studying in September. Im getting through UWorld right now but i am finding Pathology difficult, any tips? I am thinking of trying Pathoma. I have been using the Kaplan LN and FA for Patho, i have Goljan RR but i havent touched it. I took the Kaplan course back last year but our Patho lectures were horrible and a total waste .

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I have not had the opportunity to go through Pathoma, so i can't comment on its usefulness. I was loyal to Goljan all through my preps. His audios once, and i read his RR about 3-4 times.

The only tip about Path i can give is, if you have the time do Goljan RR because thats a one stop shop for information on a lot of subjects in an integrative manner.
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I have not had the opportunity to go through Pathoma, so i can't comment on its usefulness. I was loyal to Goljan all through my preps. His audios once, and i read his RR about 3-4 times.

The only tip about Path i can give is, if you have the time do Goljan RR because thats a one stop shop for information on a lot of subjects in an integrative manner.
i'll take a look at Goljan RR . I just got the 2013 edition of FA and its really good at bringing all the high yield stuff together, provided that you have read a more substantial review source or textbook.
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thanks for the advice!!!!! congrats for the gr8 score!


Could you give a rough percentage distribution of subjects in your test if thats ok?
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Thats a hard question to answer, now that its been a month since my test got over. But there were quite a few micro, immuno and pharm questions. Behavioural sciences and ethics also i remember seeing quite a few.
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damn, tests vary so much from person to person. one of my friends had an exam full of anatomy.
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I have not had the opportunity to go through Pathoma, so i can't comment on its usefulness. I was loyal to Goljan all through my preps. His audios once, and i read his RR about 3-4 times.

The only tip about Path i can give is, if you have the time do Goljan RR because thats a one stop shop for information on a lot of subjects in an integrative manner.
Congratulations for your score.
How did you read Goljan RR? I mean, since some say just to focus con blue margin notes.
How did you approach Goljan?
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sir . congratulations
U said
"I took NBME 12 around 2 months before my exam (right before i started uworld) and i got a 220, which i felt was decent for that time.

I took NBME 7 and NBME 13 around a week before my exam and got 242 and 252 respectively, so for me NBME 7 was the most predictive i guess. "
what did U do between those exams to get 22 more score ?
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