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Unhappy Urgent , " Blunt " opinion needed !!! Test April 11th !!!

my test is in 3 days , feel like I kinda screwed up.
Been studying for 7 months or more.
  • finished Kaplan videos with some kaplan notes _not all of them_
  • read FA almost 2 times.
  • finished 89% of kaplan qbank subject-wise,untimed 2 months ago with overall correct 57%
  • took uwsa 1 before starting uw & got 520/224
  • took NBME 15 after 6 blocks of uw ,got 420/203 ( it's still haunting me )
  • finished uw,timed,random & got overall correct 58% (made a lot of stupid mistakes & the in first blocks was scoring really low from upper 40s to lower 50s , but after 10 blocks my score ranged from upper 50s to lower 70s with most of the blocks in the 60s )
  • took almost 450 pages of hand-written notes.
  • didn't revise yet ,still solving freak'n questions.
I had to work 70 hours a week along with studying that's why I didn't have that much time to revise.
now I have 3 days to the test & I'm planning only on revising my notes ( that if I can do it ) plus selected pages of FA,then take UWSA 2 & NO NBME because I ran out of money plus I'm not postponing my test anyway.

I'm I in a good shape? or really screwed ?!!
please any opinion is appreciated , I'm kinda freaking out ,feeling like I screwed up at some point !! I'm aiming for 230+

please note that I took UWSA 1 & NBME 15 before starting UW , should my score get better or not necessarily ?!
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50 reviews & not a single reply ?!
c'mon guys I'm not looking for advise ,because it's too late for that.
I'm simply asking if you're in my situation would you panic or what ?!
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my test is in 3 days , feel like I kinda screwed up.
Been studying for 7 months or more.
  • finished Kaplan videos with some kaplan notes _not all of them_
  • read FA almost 2 times.
  • finished 89% of kaplan qbank subject-wise,untimed 2 months ago with overall correct 57%
  • took uwsa 1 before starting uw & got 520/224
  • took NBME 15 after 6 blocks of uw ,got 420/203 ( it's still haunting me )
  • finished uw,timed,random & got overall correct 58% (made a lot of stupid mistakes & the in first blocks was scoring really low from upper 40s to lower 50s , but after 10 blocks my score ranged from upper 50s to lower 70s with most of the blocks in the 60s )
  • took almost 450 pages of hand-written notes.
  • didn't revise yet ,still solving freak'n questions.
I had to work 70 hours a week along with studying that's why I didn't have that much time to revise.
now I have 3 days to the test & I'm planning only on revising my notes ( that if I can do it ) plus selected pages of FA,then take UWSA 2 & NO NBME because I ran out of money plus I'm not postponing my test anyway.

I'm I in a good shape? or really screwed ?!!
please any opinion is appreciated , I'm kinda freaking out ,feeling like I screwed up at some point !! I'm aiming for 230+

please note that I took UWSA 1 & NBME 15 before starting UW , should my score get better or not necessarily ?!
you are not in such bad shape , in these remain days , read those stuffs from yar list of forgetable in FA and yar notes . then go hit the exam . knowledge and luck go together in ths exam . GOOD LUCK
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you are not in such bad shape , in these remain days , read those stuffs from yar list of forgetable in FA and yar notes . then go hit the exam . knowledge and luck go together in ths exam . GOOD LUCK
thanks Koyi , you're always the first one that answers my posts,just a question, do you think I'm in a good shape for 230?
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my test is in 3 days , feel like I kinda screwed up.
Been studying for 7 months or more.
  • finished Kaplan videos with some kaplan notes _not all of them_
  • read FA almost 2 times.
  • finished 89% of kaplan qbank subject-wise,untimed 2 months ago with overall correct 57%
  • took uwsa 1 before starting uw & got 520/224
  • took NBME 15 after 6 blocks of uw ,got 420/203 ( it's still haunting me )
  • finished uw,timed,random & got overall correct 58% (made a lot of stupid mistakes & the in first blocks was scoring really low from upper 40s to lower 50s , but after 10 blocks my score ranged from upper 50s to lower 70s with most of the blocks in the 60s )
  • took almost 450 pages of hand-written notes.
  • didn't revise yet ,still solving freak'n questions.
I had to work 70 hours a week along with studying that's why I didn't have that much time to revise.
now I have 3 days to the test & I'm planning only on revising my notes ( that if I can do it ) plus selected pages of FA,then take UWSA 2 & NO NBME because I ran out of money plus I'm not postponing my test anyway.

I'm I in a good shape? or really screwed ?!!
please any opinion is appreciated , I'm kinda freaking out ,feeling like I screwed up at some point !! I'm aiming for 230+

please note that I took UWSA 1 & NBME 15 before starting UW , should my score get better or not necessarily ?!

As u are left out with just 3 days,try revising FA and ur weak topics in ur notes..This wil work out coz 85-89% of questions are from FA...Try going thru high yield topics twice...I suggest u to not go for uwsa2,it is not helpful in assessing ur score or for revising just before test..In real exam u get most of basic questions for which u need to recollect basic terms n stuff.. Do the free 150 Qs in fred software (VERY IMP) so dat u'l be familiar with the exam pattern,can add 15min of break time by skipping tutorial in real exam if u do it here in fred software n u can even get 2-3 questions from it..
Hope this wil be helpful..All the Best..!!
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Sounds as if you are in the middle of preparation. A very bright run, but sounds half way.
Do UWSA 2 tomorrow just for gymnastics. If you do good be glad, if you don't do good don't take it too seriously. It's just warm up for the prize fight.

The great problem I see with this is that you are at very high risk of being too anxious for your own good during your exam.
Trust your luck and may the adrenaline clears your mind during the exam. It certainly helped me. Try to relax enough so you don't crumble down. Think of it as if you are now boarding the roller coaster.
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Sounds as if you are in the middle of preparation. A very bright run, but sounds half way.
Do UWSA 2 tomorrow just for gymnastics. If you do good be glad, if you don't do good don't take it too seriously. It's just warm up for the prize fight.

The great problem I see with this is that you are at very high risk of being too anxious for your own good during your exam.
Trust your luck and may the adrenaline clears your mind during the exam. It certainly helped me. Try to relax enough so you don't crumble down. Think of it as if you are now boarding the roller coaster.
thanks Ahuizotl , I'm not really anxious about the test, I actually reached a point that I just wanna get it over with , but on the other hand still wanna get at least 230, & the reason I asked for opinion is that I didn't wanna get my hopes up & get disappointed later,I'd rather get struck in the face with the truth & deal with it , that's why I'm running around asking for impartial opinions , I avoided a lot of mistakes that I had done on step 2 but I guess no body can be confident when it comes to this test.
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I guess since no one said that I can get 230 with this performance ,then I shouldn't really get my hopes up .
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not to worry. "every time you have some trouble , when you worry you make it double"-bob marley. just go with the flow. its just an exam afterall. all the best .
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I guess since no one said that I can get 230 with this performance ,then I shouldn't really get my hopes up .
Not that you can't score high, is just that there's no NBME or UWSA score to relate to. The first one before starting the qbank is practically uncorrelatable.
You can do it but i'm just basing on your studying path.
You are plunging to adventure here.
I scheduled the test to one week after doing UWSA 1 and having 75% of UW done. I did no NBME because, like you, I just wanted to get over with it. And also because I thought it was free and had no money by the moment
I can say you sound worried now, and that's good. You can be worried tomorrow but forget about being worried after that.
What you've been doing these months can certainly get you 230's, the questions are straight forward.
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well , I guess I'll find out in 3 weeks & 3 days.
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Hey there
I too have my exam on the 11th !! And this morning i have decided not to take any more diagnostics because, like you i dont want to delay the test day any further..
I'll review FA and my notes
At what time is ur exam?
Mine is at noon ^^'
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I too have my exam on the 11th !! And this morning i have decided not to take any more diagnostics because, like you i dont want to delay the test day any further..
I'll review FA and my notes
At what time is ur exam?
Mine is at noon ^^'
1 PM , what have you done so far? if you don't mind me asking.
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KAPLAN vids once and notes few times for some subjects. FA few times ( one with KLN, one with kaplan hy videos, one just FA ).. Did UW but not done, average cumulative correct 56%..
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KAPLAN vids once and notes few times for some subjects. FA few times ( one with KLN, one with kaplan hy videos, one just FA ).. Did UW but not done, average cumulative correct 56%..
We're on the same boat, where's your test ? mine is in NJ
one more thing , don't you feel nervous about the cumulative uw score? because it's the only thing that's scaring me.
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We're on the same boat, where's your test ? mine is in NJ
one more thing , don't you feel nervous about the cumulative uw score? because it's the only thing that's scaring me.
Yes i do.. I've been told not to take uw scores as a predection tool, but as a learning tool..

My UWSA 1was 230..but its +/- 20 .. Before that my nbme scores were 6: 200, 12: 210, 11:221..

Im beeing more anxious about the lenght of the test.. My brain Getting tired from it.. Which makes me think if i should do an exam simulation...or just continue reading FA?!
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my test is in 3 days , feel like I kinda screwed up.
Been studying for 7 months or more.
  • finished Kaplan videos with some kaplan notes _not all of them_
  • read FA almost 2 times.
  • finished 89% of kaplan qbank subject-wise,untimed 2 months ago with overall correct 57%
  • took uwsa 1 before starting uw & got 520/224
  • took NBME 15 after 6 blocks of uw ,got 420/203 ( it's still haunting me )
  • finished uw,timed,random & got overall correct 58% (made a lot of stupid mistakes & the in first blocks was scoring really low from upper 40s to lower 50s , but after 10 blocks my score ranged from upper 50s to lower 70s with most of the blocks in the 60s )
  • took almost 450 pages of hand-written notes.
  • didn't revise yet ,still solving freak'n questions.
I had to work 70 hours a week along with studying that's why I didn't have that much time to revise.
now I have 3 days to the test & I'm planning only on revising my notes ( that if I can do it ) plus selected pages of FA,then take UWSA 2 & NO NBME because I ran out of money plus I'm not postponing my test anyway.

I'm I in a good shape? or really screwed ?!!
please any opinion is appreciated , I'm kinda freaking out ,feeling like I screwed up at some point !! I'm aiming for 230+

please note that I took UWSA 1 & NBME 15 before starting UW , should my score get better or not necessarily ?!
There is hardly anything to predict your score. To be blunt I should say if you get 215 that will already be really great. The chance are smaller for you to get 230. Personakky I won't take the test before doing at least another NBME, but unfortunately you said that won't be possible for you. However i think you should ask the biggest question. Are you okay with the score around 215? I mean, paying for nbme is certainly much cheaper than paying for the whole exam all over again, and also certainly much cheaper than scoring not at where you want it. But having said so, I challenge you to prove me that I am wrong. Kill the exam!
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i would say take an nbme 7 , see where you are if you are above 230 good
if not take leave from your work at least a month
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There is hardly anything to predict your score. To be blunt I should say if you get 215 that will already be really great. The chance are smaller for you to get 230. Personakky I won't take the test before doing at least another NBME, but unfortunately you said that won't be possible for you. However i think you should ask the biggest question. Are you okay with the score around 215? I mean, paying for nbme is certainly much cheaper than paying for the whole exam all over again, and also certainly much cheaper than scoring not at where you want it. But having said so, I challenge you to prove me that I am wrong. Kill the exam!
I'm kinda confused , But I feel like you're trying to motivate me .
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I'm kinda confused , But I feel like you're trying to motivate me .
I'm being blunt, to sum it :
if you asked my opinion
1. It's hard to predict your score without NBME
2. If I were to estimate grossly with what you provided slim chance for you to get above 230.
3. You should really consider doing an online NBME. There have been too many sad story about "I decided to take the exam without doing NBME"
4. Having said so, the last decision to do or not to do the exam is in your hand. If you decide to do the exam, prove me that I'm wrong and ace the exam, and don't let me demotivate you.

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I'm being blunt, to sum it :
if you asked my opinion
1. It's hard to predict your score without NBME
2. If I were to estimate grossly with what you provided slim chance for you to get above 230.
3. You should really consider doing an online NBME. There have been too many sad story about "I decided to take the exam without doing NBME"
4. Having said so, the last decision to do or not to do the exam is in your hand. If you decide to do the exam, prove me that I'm wrong and ace the exam, and don't let me demotivate you.

That's my opinion.
Thanks Tramps, well , my test is in two days , so I'm gonna take uwsa 2 tomorrow and sit for the test , I should be happy with over 220 I guess.
thanks for your input
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Thanks Tramps, well , my test is in two days , so I'm gonna take uwsa 2 tomorrow and sit for the test , I should be happy with over 220 I guess.
thanks for your input
Subtract 20 points from your UWSA tomorrow, that should be the closest approximation from UWSA
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well..i can relate to your state of saturation and the desire to get over with the test..i underwent the same last year when I had scored 225 in uwsa and around 215 in nbme 13.. I thought I had made too many silly mistakes in the nbme's and I'll remain careful in the actual exam..but the same happened in the real exam..my goal wasn't too high..i was so desperate to get over with the exam and expected a score of around 220..but i scored 202.. This is not to discourage you..all i m trying to say is play safe in usmle always..extending the exam date by few weeks won't hurt much believe me..what really hurts is a bad score..so take an nbme asap..if you get above 240..go take the exam otherwise extend..you must b knowing the mean of step 1..decide accordingly..good luck..
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well..i can relate to your state of saturation and the desire to get over with the test..i underwent the same last year when I had scored 225 in uwsa and around 215 in nbme 13.. I thought I had made too many silly mistakes in the nbme's and I'll remain careful in the actual exam..but the same happened in the real exam..my goal wasn't too high..i was so desperate to get over with the exam and expected a score of around 220..but i scored 202.. This is not to discourage you..all i m trying to say is play safe in usmle always..extending the exam date by few weeks won't hurt much believe me..what really hurts is a bad score..so take an nbme asap..if you get above 240..go take the exam otherwise extend..you must b knowing the mean of step 1..decide accordingly..good luck..
I guess I will,because what you just said is exactly what I'm afraid of.
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my exam is on friday! so thanks for your post cuz im almost exactly where u are right now. i havent given any nbme, planning to give it tomorrow. gooing to review FA super fast before taking nbme tomorrow. my exam is also in NJ! good luck!!
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my exam is on friday! so thanks for your post cuz im almost exactly where u are right now. i havent given any nbme, planning to give it tomorrow. gooing to review FA super fast before taking nbme tomorrow. my exam is also in NJ! good luck!!
allow me to say ,after actually thinking stuff over , if you're gonna take the test anyway , don't do NBME , if you have the luxury to postpone then go ahead unless you're certain you'll do fine otherwise you're actually gonna get nervous while doing NBME worrying about the outcome & if you screw that up you're gonna be nervous while doing the real thing & that can hurt you.
I know people are different but that was the case with me on my step 2 prep & with a lot of my friends too.
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allow me to say ,after actually thinking stuff over , if you're gonna take the test anyway , don't do NBME , if you have the luxury to postpone then go ahead unless you're certain you'll do fine otherwise you're actually gonna get nervous while doing NBME worrying about the outcome & if you screw that up you're gonna be nervous while doing the real thing & that can hurt you.
I know people are different but that was the case with me on my step 2 prep & with a lot of my friends too.
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I have done both the steps, and I shall testify against your statement. Knowing where you are is really important. NBME Is almost like an indispensable part for IMG preparing for USMLE. Never take the test without doing NBME. Confidence is misleading in steps preparation. The only way to objectively meassure you is NBME. My 2 cents only
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I have done both the steps, and I shall testify against your statement. Knowing where you are is really important. NBME Is almost like an indispensable part for IMG preparing for USMLE. Never take the test without doing NBME. Confidence is misleading in steps preparation. The only way to objectively meassure you is NBME. My 2 cents only
I totally agree with you & what I said doesn't contradict what you said , what I'm saying is ; in a situation like mine , my test is in 2 days & I'm taking it no matter what because of personal issues , it doesn't make any sense to " me " to take NBME because it won't make a difference to me ,but if someone can afford to postpone , then definitely he\she has to take an nbme.
I myself have done NBME 15 & got 204 before UW & UWSA 1 & GOT 224 also befor UW ,I wish I could have taken another one after UW but I just finished UW yesterday. But hopefully after a month of UW my performance is improved, that's actually my only hope
so to sum up, I was just being subjective & would recommend the same thing to people " IN THE SAME SITUATION AS MYSELF " , it doesn't apply to anyone else.
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well,I took UWSA 2 today & got 640/247. test is tomorrow & only revised 40% of what I wanted to go over.
I guess I'll just take the damn test & see what happens.
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well,I took UWSA 2 today & got 640/247. test is tomorrow & only revised 40% of what I wanted to go over.
I guess I'll just take the damn test & see what happens.
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well,I took UWSA 2 today & got 640/247. test is tomorrow & only revised 40% of what I wanted to go over.
I guess I'll just take the damn test & see what happens.
With that motivational boost you may as well overdo UWSA score.
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well,test in a few hours & I can't even read my own notes , I guess that's it.
although I feel that I need to revise badly,I forgot a lot of important points,but no energy I guess.
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I too have my exam on the 11th !! And this morning i have decided not to take any more diagnostics because, like you i dont want to delay the test day any further..
I'll review FA and my notes
At what time is ur exam?
Mine is at noon ^^'
how was ur exam?
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I guess since no one said that I can get 230 with this performance ,then I shouldn't really get my hopes up .
You can definitely get 230+ on this test. The test isn't everything about preparation revision and hard work. Its also about presence of mind, your general medical knowledge and if you are a believer like me,luck! So just try to relax without freaking out. Try to save your 100% for the test! Spend these last days revising the list of forgettables and doing something which makes you happy!
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how was ur exam?
hey.. thanks for asking ^^

my exam.. was a bit strange i thought.. alot of experimental questions and very focused on molecular stuff.. had 2 questions regarding to concepts each (like total 4 questions).. sadly the night before the test i thought of reviewing them but i forgot cuz i had alot to review =( i hope i got them right but they depended on pure recall... with some understanding of course.
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i had to take a few pain killer pills,unfortunately..had some sips of coffee before last block instead of another pill.. i took a break every 2 blocks..ate during every break.. and just a brief moment to relax and closed my eyes after blocks when i didn't take a break..
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well,test in a few hours & I can't even read my own notes , I guess that's it.
although I feel that I need to revise badly,I forgot a lot of important points,but no energy I guess.
good luck everybody.
How was ur exams?
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How was ur exams?
Well , I felt violated !!!
the test was kinda strange ,at some point I though I was taking the wrong test.
I'm not trying to scare anybody but there was a lot of wtf questions, lots of molecular biology qs , too many weird-as* graphs ,but still some straight forward questions.
I felt like I was guessing most of the answers,may be because of the stress or may be I was actually guessing.
but after all that I feel relieved that it's over & now I'm preparing for CS , so , good luck everybody & as Diagnostic said,it's not all about studying I guess because lots of the questions you see on the test you haven't seen before even after solving 2 qbanks like me.
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hey.. thanks for asking ^^

my exam.. was a bit strange i thought.. alot of experimental questions and very focused on molecular stuff.. had 2 questions regarding to concepts each (like total 4 questions).. sadly the night before the test i thought of reviewing them but i forgot cuz i had alot to review =( i hope i got them right but they depended on pure recall... with some understanding of course.
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first aid and kaplan notes or u world didnt help?
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Well , I felt violated !!!
the test was kinda strange ,at some point I though I was taking the wrong test.
I'm not trying to scare anybody but there was a lot of wtf questions, lots of molecular biology qs , too many weird-as* graphs ,but still some straight forward questions.
I felt like I was guessing most of the answers,may be because of the stress or may be I was actually guessing.
but after all that I feel relieved that it's over & now I'm preparing for CS , so , good luck everybody & as Diagnostic said,it's not all about studying I guess because lots of the questions you see on the test you haven't seen before even after solving 2 qbanks like me.
SO the stuff they tested on wasn't in FA in some way or another?

Was there anything you woulda done int he last 3 days that could help with those types of questions?
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SO the stuff they tested on wasn't in FA in some way or another?

Was there anything you woulda done int he last 3 days that could help with those types of questions?
I took my exam in March. Got 234.
The stuff tested is mostly in FA. FA is your checklist. You study other books to integrate FA, take QBanks to integrate further.
Videos take time to review but may help you understand difficult concepts. USMLE Step 1 Secrets also helped me understand quite some topics.

There are wtf questions in every block, the molecular biology questions were the ones more glaring I guess. Some cause autonomic and psychological reactions on sight, it's better to expect them.
In my experience, most questions were straight forward, sometimes a little too much.

What to do the last 3 days before the exam? List of forgettables, images, a quick view to your notes maybe, then RELAX with caps lock. You won't put much more info in your brain, you want to make it as accessible as possible by giving yourself a break and feeling lucky. Actual luck also plays a role.
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first aid and kaplan notes or u world didnt help?
they do help.. for instance KLN builds your foundation (by understanding concepts).. cuz without understanding concepts you can't guess the weird questions they'd throw at you... that's what i think at least.
FA.. is just a review book.. i can say that pure recall from FA at least helped me in one question ^^"

i think the test is more about the info that you gathered from what ever resources you've used.. and i think most important factor is repetition. but some things like equations, i believe gotta be reviewed day before test.. at least i had to ..

UW helped me in preparing me for the type of questions.. and trained me to work my way through weird questions (or at least try).. i remember i had few 'concepts' that had been covered in UW..
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