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I am having so much trouble with RR goljan pathology, his audio are amazing and when i go to the book i get so overwhelm i try to read the book while having my first aid open there is so much more in the RR, its overwhelming im not sure how much do we need to know. and i end up skipping pages cause i feel like its not important.

What do you guyz think how did u study RR goljan?
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I didn't study it. It's TOO much info. I recommend doing the audio+transcripts. Do Kaplan path VERY VERY well - like to the point that you can recall keywords and lines from it (yes, exactly). Then supplement with UWorld and lots of FA.

That's what I did and it's made my life SO much easier... my exam's in 5 days and I have had really good NBME's, praise be to God, even though I was the average student.

My husband, who also got a 99, didn't do Goljan either. I have to thank him for advising me not to either!
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The key point is: study only that which you will be able to revise within the last week!
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Some have already chosen to do Goljan RR. So what advice can we give to them since it may be late to go back to Kaplan.?
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reading goljan needs some organization ......

first you need a yellow highlighter to highlight every bold stuff written ....this eases up to spot the main headings of topics .....then you need a different highlighter to highlight diseases that are in these main headings ..... simplifies things very much others wise it looks jumbled......

now you need to break that chapter into 4 parts and for every part listen audio and then read from book ......once you have done that for all parts

here comes pathoma ......watch videos with RR patho infront .....and mark any new stuff on RR

this method very much works for me ......
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reading goljan needs some organization ......

first you need a yellow highlighter to highlight every bold stuff written ....this eases up to spot the main headings of topics .....then you need a different highlighter to highlight diseases that are in these main headings ..... simplifies things very much others wise it looks jumbled......

now you need to break that chapter into 4 parts and for every part listen audio and then read from book ......once you have done that for all parts

here comes pathoma ......watch videos with RR patho infront .....and mark any new stuff on RR

this method very much works for me ......


Even I was planning to do so. There's only the issue : the combo being overkill. I mean it sometimes seems like being obsessive reading/listening both authors. Plus do you feel it might become difficult to sum up as many people struggle to review RR alone?

But this seems to be the safest bet and I hardly see a reason for it to be counter-productive.
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Even I was planning to do so. There's only the issue : the combo being overkill. I mean it sometimes seems like being obsessive reading/listening both authors. Plus do you feel it might become difficult to sum up as many people struggle to review RR alone?

But this seems to be the safest bet and I hardly see a reason for it to be counter-productive.

i know its an overkill ....but hey does pathophysiology is the major deal in the test .....??? yeah .....so its worth it ..... and also the rr audio and text stabilizes the info in your head pretty much .....but pathoma does great in simplifying the things and can further reinforce the subject in a different angle ......so i think its totally worth it to do both ......
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but i want to emphasize that dont do reading from both pathoma and goljan books .....it will definitively confuse you ......only watch pathoma videos .....
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I'll say it again, Kaplan path, FA and UWorld end up teaching you fine for the exam. You can supplement with Goljan audio/transcripts if you want to but that's all you need for the exam. And it's easier to retain the info... think about it... knowing MOST of a comprehensive, condensed book better than SOME of a highly-detailed, extra-info (like % and stats etc) book.

To each his own, but I'm proposing what has worked for me and helped make me as relaxed as I am right now, four days before the exam.
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I DO think Goljan should be kept at hand for reading any time in your career... it's still a really good pathology book.
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I'll say it again, Kaplan path, FA and UWorld end up teaching you fine for the exam. You can supplement with Goljan audio/transcripts if you want to but that's all you need for the exam. And it's easier to retain the info... think about it... knowing MOST of a comprehensive, condensed book better than SOME of a highly-detailed, extra-info (like % and stats etc) book.
To each his own, but I'm proposing what has worked for me and helped make me as relaxed as I am right now, four days before the exam.
Hey I am gonna take my test soon too. Hat are your nbme scores??
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thanx everyone

i did pathology once while listening to goljan and following along the transcript (really helpful!) the only thing was pictures which were more to be found in the RR book.

But instead of taking any notes on RR i was taking notes on FA, and now im planning on just doing goljan audio n transcript again and thinking maybe i should do pathoma videos too along with my FA?
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Hey I am gonna take my test soon too. Hat are your nbme scores??
I did nbme 15 yesterday and got 257/650. One of the questions got marked wrongly by mistake or it'd be a 258.
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I did nbme 15 yesterday and got 257/650. One of the questions got marked wrongly by mistake or it'd be a 258.
Eeeiiiiiii
My mouth is opened wide! U definitely hv some good basis before preparation.
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I'll say it again, Kaplan path, FA and UWorld end up teaching you fine for the exam. You can supplement with Goljan audio/transcripts if you want to but that's all you need for the exam. And it's easier to retain the info... think about it... knowing MOST of a comprehensive, condensed book better than SOME of a highly-detailed, extra-info (like % and stats etc) book.

To each his own, but I'm proposing what has worked for me and helped make me as relaxed as I am right now, four days before the exam.

Looking at ur performance what u are saying is true but it's very difficult for some conservation students like me who think I must fish out what the hell is in that Goljan book.
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My mouth is opened wide! U definitely hv some good basis before preparation.
Keep doing that

Thank you... I was very nervous as I hadn't done any nbme online before this.
I really am an average student... Did pathology well in med school BUT studying for step 1 taught me stuff I hadn't really understood well in med school! So I can seriously say the Kaplan books+FA+UWorld are awesome! grateful to God.
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Looking at ur performance what u are saying is true but it's very difficult for some conservation students like me who think I must fish out what the hell is in that Goljan book.
I used to feel that too when I started studying. My husband saw me studying goljan and used to shake his head and say I'd be better off with Kaplan path. After several attempts to study goljan, I made the big move to Kaplan and more of FA and have been a strong supporter since. I'm hoping that I get a good score in the exam so there can be some strong support for an alternative and simpler approach to the exam. I really understand now that this exam becomes complicated when you keep adding books. Some geniuses can handle that but people who prefer simple, straightforward strategies with fewer books (didn't do CDs either) need the alternative study plan.
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I'll say it again, Kaplan path, FA and UWorld end up teaching you fine for the exam. You can supplement with Goljan audio/transcripts if you want to but that's all you need for the exam. And it's easier to retain the info... think about it... knowing MOST of a comprehensive, condensed book better than SOME of a highly-detailed, extra-info (like % and stats etc) book.

To each his own, but I'm proposing what has worked for me and helped make me as relaxed as I am right now, four days before the exam.
hey i posted my own experience with it and that worked for me ...... everyone should go for the method that works for them and about which they feel confident about it when going into the exam..... judging by your nbme score you have done pretty well ....and also its not the exam where "who knows the most " wins ,its about applying the stuff you know ....you stand pretty strong in the exam and good luck for the exam
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hey i posted my own experience with it and that worked for me ...... everyone should go for the method that works for them and about which they feel confident about it when going into the exam..... judging by your nbme score you have done pretty well ....and also its not the exam where "who knows the most " wins ,its about applying the stuff you know ....you stand pretty strong in the exam and good luck for the exam
Exactly... that's my point too... that there's more than one way to study. I actually come from a background of "Goljan is a must!" so feel strongly on this. I know people have been studying all sorts of ways... and it's all fine... as long as you can do the exam!

Thanks for the wishes... I hope it works out...
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Exactly... that's my point too... that there's more than one way to study. I actually come from a background of "Goljan is a must!" so feel strongly on this. I know people have been studying all sorts of ways... and it's all fine... as long as you can do the exam!

Thanks for the wishes... I hope it works out...
yeah i know people always take the safest bet ......but hey who cares..... but a little suggestion would be for you to see pathoma videos in these last four days ..and if you are good you can wrap the whole videos in a day or two... i tell u that guy eases the pathology like eating a piece of cake ......just a suggestion though and also do post the exam experience
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hey,
have u guys gone through the free questions RR patho q bank,powered by usmle consult? ( code comes along with the Rapid Review book)

any input on if they are an actual representation of the step 1 questions(pattern, difficulty etc) ? or just another reviewing technique that's available?
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I am having so much trouble with RR goljan pathology, his audio are amazing and when i go to the book i get so overwhelm i try to read the book while having my first aid open there is so much more in the RR, its overwhelming im not sure how much do we need to know. and i end up skipping pages cause i feel like its not important.

What do you guyz think how did u study RR goljan?
the book is amazing and everything is important, take time reading, dont rush, some topics offcourse like hematology take more time, so all i can say is divide your time accordingly. all the best.
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I'll say it again, Kaplan path, FA and UWorld end up teaching you fine for the exam. You can supplement with Goljan audio/transcripts if you want to but that's all you need for the exam. And it's easier to retain the info... think about it... knowing MOST of a comprehensive, condensed book better than SOME of a highly-detailed, extra-info (like % and stats etc) book.

To each his own, but I'm proposing what has worked for me and helped make me as relaxed as I am right now, four days before the exam.

All the best for your exam ....... may Allah make it easy for you
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Thank you so much!! I can't believe how close it is now - tomorrow! Tying up lose ends today.
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Thank you so much!! I can't believe how close it is now - tomorrow! Tying up lose ends today.
best wishes and do share ur experience when ur done would love to hear back and thx for the advice on the forum
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