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Warning! The exam was very difficult!

Hello,

I had my step 1 last week,

i prepared really well but the exam was very difficult

i studied biochem genetics micro and immuno very well and repeated them many times

also I repeated pharma, anatomy and phsyio

i did not have time to repeat patho, neuro anatomy before the exam


90 % of the exam was about patho, ethics, neuroanatomy, pharma , anatomy and phsio

less than 10 questions in the whole exam about biochem!!!

only few about genetics

immuno was extremely difficult

micro was medium but with lot of pictures

very little questions on behavioural other than ethics

some questions about biostat

pharma physio anatomy questions were easy to medium

but patho and nuero antomy were very difficult ( maybe bcoz i did not revise them)

everybody who had the exam before me told me there wont be too many images
but I had like more than 15-20 images about patho and alot of pictures about neuro

im really disappointed
istudied biochem gentics micro and immuno very hard

but the exam was patho only

what do you think?
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what were your nbme scores?
I did not do nmbe because I did not want it to affect me in anyways

I really recommend studying a patho atlas before the exam it will really change anyone's score
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I did not do nmbe because I did not want it to affect me in anyways

I really recommend studying a patho atlas before the exam it will really change anyone's score
for patho which one did u use? goljan or pathoma?
and which qbanks u used earlier?
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for patho which one did u use? goljan or pathoma?
and which qbanks u used earlier?
for patho firstly I watched all of kaplan videos for patho, they are really a waste of time, the 2 guys just read the slides they do not add anything to anyone's knowledge
then I studied BRS patho and FA patho after that I did Uworld I felt BRS is very defective because most of UWorld questions are out of it

IF i Just reviewed a patho atlas It would have affected my score alot

I am a postgraduate so I could answer alot of patho questions from my information in the clinical years not from my studying of BRS or FA
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Did you read FA?? and UW notes??
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when exactly was your exam? doctor
as many complain of the exam as you said
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Did you read FA?? and UW notes??
I read FA and did Uw for all the subjects


i repeated FA for all of the subjects before the exam except for pathology and neuroanatomy
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when exactly was your exam? doctor
as many complain of the exam as you said

3 days ago

who else complains of it?
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That's good that you didn't get many behv or biostatistics questions n genetics n biochem wasn't much tough.good luck n keep your hopes high.can you plz tell what kinda patho images were there? I mean were they histo ones or gross images ? How much time you studied on last two months?
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I read FA and did Uw for all the subjects


i repeated FA for all of the subjects before the exam except for pathology and neuroanatomy
wait why didnt you repeat pathology? Thats like the bread and butter of this exam...kind of confused by that point .
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who else complains of it?
One i know took the exam on last 29th october and
said that the exam questions were very tough and not similar to uw style nor NBME

and it was full of many very weird pathology questions which he didn't read anywhere even Goljan 600 or 125 page or Pathoma as he heard Pathoma and read Goljan but for him both were waste of time with no benefit

also i read that people who took the exam last 22nd october also the same....complain of the exam and of very tough questions they get esp. pathology which they didn't read about either in Goljan nor Pathoma
also pharma questions were very very difficult
These style of Questions aren't present either in UW nor NBME
and there were many in the exam

I don't know why USMLE do this?
this is unfair as many who took the exam said that their Exam was Easy
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why some had easy or medium exam while others have very hard tough exam?
This is unfair
all about Luck

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That's good that you didn't get many behv or biostatistics questions n genetics n biochem wasn't much tough.good luck n keep your hopes high.can you plz tell what kinda patho images were there? I mean were they histo ones or gross images ? How much time you studied on last two months?
the images were histopathology

regarding the last two months

I studied alot I finished genetics, biochem from kaplan and FA and I finished high yeild biostat and high yeild behavioural and conrad fischer for ethics in addition to these subjects from FA

I also finished UW for genetics, biochem, behavioural biostat and ethics
and finally I repeated all subjects from FA except for patho and neuro antomy
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wait why didnt you repeat pathology? Thats like the bread and butter of this exam...kind of confused by that point .

I should have repeated it but I did not have time

I thought repeating biochem micro and other subjects is more imporant coz they r easily forgetable

and I thought my clinical years would help me in solving patho questions
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why some had easy or medium exam while others have very hard tough exam?
This is unfair
all about Luck

I totally agree with you

the difficulty of the exam must be the same for everyone

there sould be a fixed percentage range for each subject

for example biochem must be 10-15% of the exam

but they bring 30 questions of biochem for some people and 10 questions for others!!!!!

they bring 5 images in the whole exam for some and more than 30 for others!!!!!!


this is unfair


maybe the exam is difficult in october coz most of people dont take steps in this month bcoz it is imediately after sepmtemper which is the month of applying for hospitals
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some ppl say that exam is like nbmes, but the look and difficulty can vary from nbme to uworld....
maybe if you did 3-4 nbmes you would have felt more prepared because you would see a variety of questions....some nbmes are very different then UW...usmlerx isnt a good prediction for the real exam its just good to memorize first aid. But I am sure you did well since you were confident enough to not take any nbmes....
Good luck for your score wishing you the best and I am positive your hardwork will pay off
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I totally agree with you

the difficulty of the exam must be the same for everyone

there sould be a fixed percentage range for each subject

for example biochem must be 10-15% of the exam

but they bring 30 questions of biochem for some people and 10 questions for others!!!!!

they bring 5 images in the whole exam for some and more than 30 for others!!!!!!


this is unfair


maybe the exam is difficult in october coz most of people dont take steps in this month bcoz it is imediately after sepmtemper which is the month of applying for hospitals
Dont worry....Since you said patho was not from any study material, revising these things would not have helped you.....Relax and wait for results....U will do well...
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i too gave my exam in october, waiting for results..exam was tough no doubt but to say that its easy for some and tough for others is not justified..USMLE is never easy for anyone..i agree that there might be different number of questions from a subject for two ppl, but if u hav read that subject thoroughly u can answer 10 or 30 watever be the number,,n everybody has weird questions, some get anat easy, some get biostats tough..its kind of balances,,nwz hope all of us get good scores..
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I should have repeated it but I did not have time

I thought repeating biochem micro and other subjects is more imporant coz they r easily forgetable

and I thought my clinical years would help me in solving patho questions
again, i am not understanding your method ; if you didnt have time, you should have extended your eligibility period. Pathology is the main point of this exam...yeah clinical years wont do much for patho. Not to be rude or mean, but not taking any practice tests was a bad idea...
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hey guys can anyone plzz guide me on this one, how many points does uwsa 2 over predicts?? 20?? or 15?? or more?? i know this has been discussed on this forum but i cant find the link to that post..



earlier it used to be quite predictive, but everyone says it over-predicts now..


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hey guys can anyone plzz guide me on this one, how many points does uwsa 2 over predicts?? 20?? or 15?? or more?? i know this has been discussed on this forum but i cant find the link to that post..



earlier it used to be quite predictive, but everyone says it over-predicts now..


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From what I've gleaned from the forums, people tend to say it over predicts by 20pts, but I guess that depends from person to person. I think the take home message is if you want an assessment, stick to NBMEs. Even with NBMEs, take whatever score you get and +/- 10 points and that should be your expected range. So if your NBME gives you a 240, dont be mad if you get a 230 cause it can happen, and on the flip side, you may just end up getting a 250! There is a lot of luck at play here.
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From what I've gleaned from the forums, people tend to say it over predicts by 20pts, but I guess that depends from person to person. I think the take home message is if you want an assessment, stick to NBMEs. Even with NBMEs, take whatever score you get and +/- 10 points and that should be your expected range. So if your NBME gives you a 240, dont be mad if you get a 230 cause it can happen, and on the flip side, you may just end up getting a 250! There is a lot of luck at play here.

Thank you, I know we should do nbme, and i am doing them too, but yesterday when i did UWSA2 i find many things which i had no idea about, esp about those genetic technique questions they have.. so i was doing it and taking it like a learning tool..
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I am sure that you will do great in the result, which patho atlas do u suggest to use as prep material?
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ok this is scary...do let us know about ur scores..and i think this feeling comes to everyone after exam...just stop thinking about it as its over now ...best of luck...ur gonna do great!
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You invested your best efforts in low yield subjects, that could account for the difficulty you experienced. If there's anything I've learnt on this forum it's that anatomy, physiology, PATHOLOGY, neuroanatomy...have to be at your fingertips before you begin to think about applying for the exam.
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There were alot of questions from kaplan , but alot others nowhere mentioned there, I was taken aback cause i studied kaplan and FA anatomy really well but those things werent mentioned in those book. I just wish most of them be experimental questions
well in all probability they were....i heard from people over on StudentDoctor, who took the exam in the end of October, and they said it was fine, nothing too difficult...
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I'm REALLY nervous about the random topics like anatomy, genetics, behavioural, molecular bio...
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well in all probability they were....i heard from people over on StudentDoctor, who took the exam in the end of October, and they said it was fine, nothing too difficult...
Question pool is different at different days
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Question pool is different at different days
also true. Everyone's test is random..but i do know that the harder exams have a better curve...so i think it works out to be all relative in the end.
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Hello,

I had my step 1 last week,

i prepared really well but the exam was very difficult

i studied biochem genetics micro and immuno very well and repeated them many times

also I repeated pharma, anatomy and phsyio

i did not have time to repeat patho, neuro anatomy before the exam


90 % of the exam was about patho, ethics, neuroanatomy, pharma , anatomy and phsio

less than 10 questions in the whole exam about biochem!!!

only few about genetics

immuno was extremely difficult

micro was medium but with lot of pictures

very little questions on behavioural other than ethics

some questions about biostat

pharma physio anatomy questions were easy to medium

but patho and nuero antomy were very difficult ( maybe bcoz i did not revise them)

everybody who had the exam before me told me there wont be too many images
but I had like more than 15-20 images about patho and alot of pictures about neuro

im really disappointed
istudied biochem gentics micro and immuno very hard

but the exam was patho only

what do you think?
lol...same with me...
exam was really harder than wat i expected...
questions less well framed than uworld or nbmes...
too many wtf questions...
i am stressed out ryt now..
by the way i took mine on oct 30th..
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lol...same with me...
exam was really harder than wat i expected...
questions less well framed than uworld or nbmes...
too many wtf questions...
i am stressed out ryt now..
by the way i took mine on oct 30th..
all my nbmes showed i was very good in path n pharma more than other subjects..but still i felt it tht way...
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lol...same with me...
exam was really harder than wat i expected...
questions less well framed than uworld or nbmes...
too many wtf questions...
i am stressed out ryt now..
by the way i took mine on oct 30th..
Whats the meaning of WTF questions?.....
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Firstly,

thanks for everybody how encouraged me and tried to make me comfortable in this thread, that helped alot and it means alot for me


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again, i am not understanding your method ; if you didnt have time, you should have extended your eligibility period. Pathology is the main point of this exam...yeah clinical years wont do much for patho. Not to be rude or mean, but not taking any practice tests was a bad idea...

I had my first eligibility period in march-april- may

I wanted to do the exam in march then i postponed it to may then i extended the eligibilty period to jun-jul-august
iwanted to do the exam in august then icould not finsih the subject so i paid money again and had the exam done in october I couldnot postpone it again because my family was angry at me becoz i postponed multiple times. moreover i still have step 2 and cs to do
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I am sure that you will do great in the result, which patho atlas do u suggest to use as prep material?

in fact, I do not know a certain atlas. but I recommend viewing any good pathohistology atlas

also concentrate on neuroantomy, do not look at it as a trivial subject

it might be more important than biochem or even micro

also see images for brain and Spinal cord try to see cts and mRi for neuroantomy

I had lots of images about neuroantomy, too many
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the exam is the same as usmle world or even more difficult

there were some question in UWorld i Thought it would never come in the exam because they were pretty difficult but I found them in my exam

what i am saying is the real exam is not easier than Uworld it is only shorter
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thanks for everybody how encouraged me and tried to make me comfortable in this thread, that helped alot and it means alot for me





I had my first eligibility period in march-april- may

I wanted to do the exam in march then i postponed it to may then i extended the eligibilty period to jun-jul-august
iwanted to do the exam in august then icould not finsih the subject so i paid money again and had the exam done in october I couldnot postpone it again because my family was angry at me becoz i postponed multiple times. moreover i still have step 2 and cs to do
i was in the same situation as you....i just postponed my exam as well; i was set to take it in October, but now i am taking it on the 22nd of this month. I also have Step 2 and CS to take as well. I postponed my exam cause i got a low score in UWSA1 compared to a really high score in NBME15. Maybe its a blessing in disguise that i didnt take it in October, from reading what you and others have said. I am really sorry the exam didnt go as planned, but the curve should help you. Honestly, i would say...relax, and focus on Step 2 now..the exam is done, you cant do anything about it now and who knows, you probably did a lot better than you think.
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i was in the same situation as you....i just postponed my exam as well; i was set to take it in October, but now i am taking it on the 22nd of this month. I also have Step 2 and CS to take as well. I postponed my exam cause i got a low score in UWSA1 compared to a really high score in NBME15. Maybe its a blessing in disguise that i didnt take it in October, from reading what you and others have said. I am really sorry the exam didnt go as planned, but the curve should help you. Honestly, i would say...relax, and focus on Step 2 now..the exam is done, you cant do anything about it now and who knows, you probably did a lot better than you think.

can you explain the curve for me and how they calculate the score? because i do not anything about they calculate the score
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can you explain the curve for me and how they calculate the score? because i do not anything about they calculate the score
frankly, I or nobody else knows, and i wont even begin to speculate on how the curve is calculated. Only the NBME (people who administer the exam) really know how its all done. But someone over at the other USMLE forum has speculated:

"Nobody except the National Board of Medical Examiners knows exactly how the 3-digit score is derived from your actual points in the exam. What we do know is that:

- Your 3-digit score IS derived from your actual performance in the exam.
- You are then looked at in comparison to other Test takers from the previous 3 months
- You are compared against the recent average for US/Canadian students.

All these factors are taken into account for your 3-digit score to be derived. This is the greyist area of the entire process, as the NBME have never actually told anyone how they derive this number."
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How was micobiology?....some of the ppl in other forums are writing that FA may not be enough now for Micro...
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From what I've heard from people on this forum and other students from my school who have taken the exam, the exam isn't hard or easy, it just "is". The way I see it its 90% studying and 10% luck. Now if you really study your stuff well, you have a 90% chance of getting a very high mark, but like all things, that 10% of luck needs to swing in your favor. No matter how much you study, there will be areas that you are weak at.

Best case scenario, you know enough that the probability of getting many questions you are bad at is low, but if there is a chance, it will happen eventually, and someone will get an exam that consists mostly of topic they may be weak at. So I dont think it's an issue of the exam being unfair, in fact its actually more fair this way, because it is completely randomized.

I have just as high a chance of getting a messed up exam that focuses on subjects im unfamiliar with as the next person. All I can do is study hard to try and make sure I have my 90% covered because the less I know, the more that 90% shrinks, and that 10% luck factor grows.

Anyways, I will know soon enough as my exam date looms ever closer, but to the TC, I think you should relax and calm down til you get your results. The brain tends to remember the negatives more than the positives. So you are probably remembering all the questions you were unsure about, but forgetting all the ones you aced. You have a disproportionate view on your exam Have faith, all will be well
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How was micobiology?....some of the ppl in other forums are writing that FA may not be enough now for Micro...

i think FA is good

I studied mrs for micro then i read FA and UWorld

the questions were easy

but you have to concentrate on the images found in FA and Uworld
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I did not do nmbe because I did not want it to affect me in anyways

I really recommend studying a patho atlas before the exam it will really change anyone's score
Oh wow, that's a very unique approach. How did you know that you were ready?
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Oh wow, that's a very unique approach. How did you know that you were ready?

I postponed the exam 3 times and I had to do it last week
so I did not have a choice

I was afraid that I do NMBE and get a low score and that will affect my self confidence
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i too gave my exam in october, waiting for results..exam was tough no doubt but to say that its easy for some and tough for others is not justified..USMLE is never easy for anyone..i agree that there might be different number of questions from a subject for two ppl, but if u hav read that subject thoroughly u can answer 10 or 30 watever be the number,,n everybody has weird questions, some get anat easy, some get biostats tough..its kind of balances,,nwz hope all of us get good scores..
Hi, i gave my exame in october ,and it was very tough then uw, nbme and uwsa.
i did one mistake i left 5 to 6 questions in each block , i got 210 in uwsa 1 test one few days before the exame and 230 in uwsa2 one month before my exame. I am tensed about result.i didnt solved any online nbme.dont Know what hapened to me why i did that mistake some times i think like that i am enemy of myself because during uw self asesmnt when i missed few questions in one block i tried to solve all blks within given time but dont know wht hapened to me during my exame i was not able to push myself during exame.
i am hard worker candidiate but due to some personal problms was woried and didnt workd wel in last month.
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One i know took the exam on last 29th october and
said that the exam questions were very tough and not similar to uw style nor NBME

and it was full of many very weird pathology questions which he didn't read anywhere even Goljan 600 or 125 page or Pathoma as he heard Pathoma and read Goljan but for him both were waste of time with no benefit

also i read that people who took the exam last 22nd october also the same....complain of the exam and of very tough questions they get esp. pathology which they didn't read about either in Goljan nor Pathoma
also pharma questions were very very difficult
These style of Questions aren't present either in UW nor NBME
and there were many in the exam

I don't know why USMLE do this?
this is unfair as many who took the exam said that their Exam was Easy
You do not seem to understand the concept that when someone knows a lot, the exam will seem easy. When someone does not know as much, the exam will seem hard. in every single reporting period, there will always be people who say "oh my god this was the hardest exam ever" and others say it was easy. Furthermore, people's standards as to what is easy and what is hard are very different. For some, hard might mean not knowing the answer in 5 out of 46 questions. For others, it means they were guessing the whole time.
If you have not figured this out in med school, where everyone was taking the same exam at the same day, and stories ranged from "OMG soo hard" to "a piece of cake", then I probably can't help you. But try to think about it. It does make sense.
I honestly dont think there is anything unfair about this exam.
Why do people get hard exams and others get easy ones? It depends on how much they know!
Also, if you did not study one particular subject very well, of course you will feel like you got a lot of questions in that subject, because you had to think harder for the answer, knew less, and thus remember those questions better than the ones you did not have to think about.
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You do not seem to understand the concept that when someone knows a lot, the exam will seem easy. When someone does not know as much, the exam will seem hard. in every single reporting period, there will always be people who say "oh my god this was the hardest exam ever" and others say it was easy. Furthermore, people's standards as to what is easy and what is hard are very different. For some, hard might mean not knowing the answer in 5 out of 46 questions. For others, it means they were guessing the whole time.
If you have not figured this out in med school, where everyone was taking the same exam at the same day, and stories ranged from "OMG soo hard" to "a piece of cake", then I probably can't help you. But try to think about it. It does make sense.
I honestly dont think there is anything unfair about this exam.
Why do people get hard exams and others get easy ones? It depends on how much they know!
Also, if you did not study one particular subject very well, of course you will feel like you got a lot of questions in that subject, because you had to think harder for the answer, knew less, and thus remember those questions better than the ones you did not have to think about.
hello dr I disagree with you

for example I think most of the people doing the exam are weak in pathology slides I think it is a difficult thing to recognize diseases just by looking to the slide

so it is unfair that someone gets only 4 slides and someone gets 30 slides

you might say that a powerful doctor will not fear any questions but you are taking about a minority
most of students go the exam without finishing the material

so to be fair they should give the same number of questions for each subject to all applicants

for example If I studied micro well and didnot study biochem and a lot of questions were about micro and only few about biochem that would make me do better than someone who studied biochem well and did not study micro although we made the same effort
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I hope you do very well, regardless of how you feel about it...
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taher when do you expect your score? Next week?

I hope you do very well, regardless of how you feel about it...

thanks alot

yes it is next week
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I will in sha Allah

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You do not seem to understand the concept that when someone knows a lot, the exam will seem easy. When someone does not know as much, the exam will seem hard. in every single reporting period, there will always be people who say "oh my god this was the hardest exam ever" and others say it was easy. Furthermore, people's standards as to what is easy and what is hard are very different. For some, hard might mean not knowing the answer in 5 out of 46 questions. For others, it means they were guessing the whole time.
If you have not figured this out in med school, where everyone was taking the same exam at the same day, and stories ranged from "OMG soo hard" to "a piece of cake", then I probably can't help you. But try to think about it. It does make sense.
I honestly dont think there is anything unfair about this exam.
Why do people get hard exams and others get easy ones? It depends on how much they know!
Also, if you did not study one particular subject very well, of course you will feel like you got a lot of questions in that subject, because you had to think harder for the answer, knew less, and thus remember those questions better than the ones you did not have to think about.

I totally disagree with your point of view

Why do people get hard exams and others get easy ones?
It doesn't depend on how much they Know but bec.
The USMLE Exam is not fair by all it means this word

People who don't study well are honest and say that they didn't study well

but who did Study very hard, and Scored well in self assessment exams
when he took the exam found many many questions who has no idea about, didn't Know from where they come from ,and even can't be solved by logic guess
and also found many many many images know nothing about
many anatomy questions came from hell
many many very very tough ethics questions even after studying well 100 case book by cornard fischer or tough biostatistics questions as
all know that Behavouir Science Subject is very difficult subject esp. for IMG

What do you want this guy to say about this exam? Very Easy Exam
or will u blame him if he said that it was very tough or unfair exam & you'll accuse him of not understanding Concepts as you studied with him or know him personally.

on the other hand,someone else who Study less or the same
& had Exam with very straight Questions in patho,paharma,ethics,biochemistry,anatomy,biostat. ,psychatiry , physiology, immune and micro questions
few number of images and very very easy to solve
but few few few weird questions & can be solved by logic guess (luck)

USMLE isn't fair exam at all and not totally depend on understanding concepts or study hard
we can say 40% on studying .... 60% on luck in exam and results

USMLE Exam depend totally on Luck Luck Luck in exam and in results

for Ex. : many people felt that they'll fail & at the end scored 240+ , 250+ and didn't know how they get this score but say Oh Oh Oh i got this score so i made many luck guesses

.: USMLE Exam not only about Studying hard or understanding concepts Simply bec.
it's unfair unfair unfair exam
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I totally disagree with your point of view

Why do people get hard exams and others get easy ones?
It doesn't depend on how much they Know but bec.
The USMLE Exam is not fair by all it means this word

People who don't study well are honest and say that they didn't study well

but who did Study very hard, and Scored well in self assessment exams
when he took the exam found many many questions who has no idea about, didn't Know from where they come from ,and even can't be solved by logic guess
and also found many many many images know nothing about
many anatomy questions came from hell
many many very very tough ethics questions even after studying well 100 case book by cornard fischer or tough biostatistics questions as
all know that Behavouir Science Subject is very difficult subject esp. for IMG

What do you want this guy to say about this exam? Very Easy Exam
or will u blame him if he said that it was very tough or unfair exam & you'll accuse him of not understanding Concepts as you studied with him or know him personally.

on the other hand,someone else who Study less or the same
& had Exam with very straight Questions in patho,paharma,ethics,biochemistry,anatomy,biostat. ,psychatiry , physiology, immune and micro questions
few number of images and very very easy to solve
but few few few weird questions & can be solved by logic guess (luck)

USMLE isn't fair exam at all and not totally depend on understanding concepts or study hard
we can say 40% on studying .... 60% on luck in exam and results

USMLE Exam depend totally on Luck Luck Luck in exam and in results

for Ex. : many people felt that they'll fail & at the end scored 240+ , 250+ and didn't know how they get this score but say Oh Oh Oh i got this score so i made many luck guesses

.: USMLE Exam not only about Studying hard or understanding concepts Simply bec.
it's unfair unfair unfair exam
Utter bulls*** in above post.

For all future test takers who are preparing for step1 don't get distracted by any posts describing how difficult or out of the world their exam was ..... just remember that your hard work is proportional to the score you get in real deal ...its a linear relationship as Goljan also says in his lectures.

Any one who commands time tested prep material is DESTINED to get good score...step1 is a well balanced exam where more than 90% exam is either easy or of medium difficulty and for rest you can also make a good educated guess.

Here is one of the most accurate and detailed account of one of our forum members which gave me immense confidence during my prep and later I found that how accurate this guy was

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Utter bulls*** in above post.

For all future test takers who are preparing for step1 don't get distracted by any posts describing how difficult or out of the world their exam was ..... just remember that your hard work is proportional to the score you get in real deal ...its a linear relationship as Goljan also says in his lectures.

Any one who commands time tested prep material is DESTINED to get good score...step1 is a well balanced exam where more than 90% exam is either easy or of medium difficulty and for rest you can also make a good educated guess.

Here is one of the most accurate and detailed account of one of our forum members which gave me immense confidence during my prep and later I found that how accurate this guy was

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To Mr.Utter bulls
if u want to give your point of view....give it in polite respectful way

i just reply on a post which discuss how difficult was the exam
as it's reality that some of exam takers who study well complain of exam difficulty while other not

so i'mnot spreading negativity .... i only just hope that Usmle to be more fair in their exams

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I took my exam on november 6th and now I'm now waiting for my score. The day of my exam I felt horrible, I didn't sleep, questions were very long...time was running and I wasn't able to concentrate appropriately because of anxiety...my mind was so confused... I found my exam difficult...yes, I did. There were some weird questions...I made some stupid mistakes too. After I finished my exam I wanted crying...I was so exhausted...and I felt like I failed my exam . I am trying to forget about my exam..and also trying to be positive. I scored well in my nbmes (I did all nbmes online and scored 580, 590 in my last nbme ) so I hope that these feelings are wrong...
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if u want to give your point of view....give it in polite respectful way

i just reply on a post which discuss how difficult was the exam
as it's reality that some of exam takers who study well complain of exam difficulty while other not

so i'mnot spreading negativity .... i only just hope that Usmle to be more fair in their exams

Again and Again ... try to learn how to be polite
The reason I came hard on you was because any forum member who is preparing for step1 will perceive it as unconquerable exam and that can shatter your confidence esp if you about to take it.
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Thank you offspite I totally agree with you , Your comment and support was needed here very much...It is true USMLE is gradually getting tougher compared to previous years like who took it 3-4 years back the same test.But This particular post about how usmle step1 exam is getting tougher, based mainly on lucks etc is truly frightening and spreading negativity , make many of us nervous ,shatter our confidence . What we really cannot do , no point discussing ..what we really can do is working very very hard and give our everything to get a high score . Hard works pay off always ,that is the bottomline . Furthermore , I donot personally believe usmle , the most constructed medical exam of word's best country can be so so unfair to most of us though exceptions do occur everywhere . But you cannot generalize it. I believe success is truly a linear relationship, work hard , destiny is yours .
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I gave exam at end of october and it was very different from the nbmes and uworld/kaplan qbank. There were alot of WTF questions especially from Anatomy and biochem & soooo many images , CTs & alot of images even from micro and what not . Micro was very tough , keeping in consideration that i didnt even missed a single question in both nbmes from micro , it gave me a tough time. I literally panicked by the end of 3rd block ( i wasnt able to sleep properly before my exam night so it could be one of the reasons of difficulty staying calm).
As of my preparation i studied from kaplans , pathoma for pathology , FA , uworld and kaplan qbanks complete.
I did nbme 13 (242)
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I felt confident about my prep but the exam was very different from the kind of questions i expected. Now the thoughts of results are scaring me

HEY guys i actually ended up getting 258
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hey taher
how are u?? hope u do well in ur score
plz tell me about ur score .. coz i got my exam a week after urs nd mine was pretty much as urs full of neuro, immuno-pathology and behavioral science so im curious about ur score
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hey taher
how are u?? hope u do well in ur score
plz tell me about ur score .. coz i got my exam a week after urs nd mine was pretty much as urs full of neuro, immuno-pathology and behavioral science so im curious about ur score
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I did not do NMBE
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Congratulations!!! awesome score!
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Hi guys, im totally new to this forum...n decided to register with u guys since i was feeling totally broken and depressed: i got my step 1 result today...a 206...im in utter shock to tell u the truth none of my nbme scores predicted this outcome some one plz guide me and help me in this situation -

I am an IMG graduated in mid 2012, took step 1 -206, studying currently for step 2ck, my step 1 nbme form 15 (570), form 13 (470), uworld qbank (96th percentile) - i literally spent 1.5 years studying for step 1 to aim for a 250....

Is there any way i can get a residency for the 2015 match? I have no US electives/rotations/research/LOR's...i feel like my life has totally like fallen apart and im at a total loss on what to do n how to pick up the pieces...any suggestions would be greatly appreciated: thanx
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did u do the nbme online?
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Yup i gave both of them online. They should always be done online
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I got 215
OH! man .. don't give up .. u gonna do great on the second step
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OH! man .. don't give up .. u gonna do great on the second step
But no body will accept me even if I get 270 in step 2

In fact I still do not believe my score I studied for 9 months
I watched all kaplan videos I finished all books I even finished cornad fischer ethics book I read FA twice I finished UW

How I only get 215


I know people who studied only half of my studying and got 230+

what happened?
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But no body will accept me even if I get 270 in step 2

In fact I still do not believe my score I studied for 9 months
I watched all kaplan videos I finished all books I even finished cornad fischer ethics book I read FA twice I finished UW

How I only get 215


I know people who studied only half of my studying and got 230+

what happened?
Calm down man ... just focus on your second step & don't think about the past .. just get 270 on step 2 & im sure u gonna get a residency
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Hi guys, im totally new to this forum...n decided to register with u guys since i was feeling totally broken and depressed: i got my step 1 result today...a 206...im in utter shock to tell u the truth none of my nbme scores predicted this outcome some one plz guide me and help me in this situation -

I am an IMG graduated in mid 2012, took step 1 -206, studying currently for step 2ck, my step 1 nbme form 15 (570), form 13 (470), uworld qbank (96th percentile) - i literally spent 1.5 years studying for step 1 to aim for a 250....

Is there any way i can get a residency for the 2015 match? I have no US electives/rotations/research/LOR's...i feel like my life has totally like fallen apart and im at a total loss on what to do n how to pick up the pieces...any suggestions would be greatly appreciated: thanx
Hey bro , i understand how you feel. This pathway is full of ups and downs and problems . I have seen people with great scores not getting matched not getting visa and alot of mishaps , on the other hand i have seen people with very normal score getting matched in great positions. Now the beauty of this pathway is consistency , if you show your consistency with greater scores in CK , trying to get research observerships , and showing you really want it i am pretty sure you will get contacts and impress Program director. Obviously the odds are little lower but you still have CK/CS/STEP3 to prove yourself. Now its upto you if you REALLY REALLY REALLY want this or you want to move on. Hard work and dedication works wonder
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Hey bro , i understand how you feel. This pathway is full of ups and downs and problems . I have seen people with great scores not getting matched not getting visa and alot of mishaps , on the other hand i have seen people with very normal score getting matched in great positions. Now the beauty of this pathway is consistency , if you show your consistency with greater scores in CK , trying to get research observerships , and showing you really want it i am pretty sure you will get contacts and impress Program director. Obviously the odds are little lower but you still have CK/CS/STEP3 to prove yourself. Now its upto you if you REALLY REALLY REALLY want this or you want to move on. Hard work and dedication works wonder
I have a contact, how much does this help?

Also if I do step 3 before the match would that help?
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Hello,

I had my step 1 last week,

i prepared really well but the exam was very difficult

i studied biochem genetics micro and immuno very well and repeated them many times

also I repeated pharma, anatomy and phsyio

i did not have time to repeat patho, neuro anatomy before the exam


90 % of the exam was about patho, ethics, neuroanatomy, pharma , anatomy and phsio

less than 10 questions in the whole exam about biochem!!!

only few about genetics

immuno was extremely difficult

micro was medium but with lot of pictures

very little questions on behavioural other than ethics

some questions about biostat

pharma physio anatomy questions were easy to medium

but patho and nuero antomy were very difficult ( maybe bcoz i did not revise them)

everybody who had the exam before me told me there wont be too many images
but I had like more than 15-20 images about patho and alot of pictures about neuro

im really disappointed
istudied biochem gentics micro and immuno very hard

but the exam was patho only

what do you think?

ohhh good luck.....may b due to def of tym ....any wys thnkz for sharing ur ex
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I have a contact, how much does this help?

Also if I do step 3 before the match would that help?
Having contact helps you alot . He could get you an interview , like e.g you scored low on step 1 but did really great on CK , then the contact could personally tell the Program director to give you an interview on you application and this way you application wont be rejected. After that its your personality thats going to get you the residency slot. One of residents told me that
Scores get you interviews , your personality gets you the job
So alot of things count in.Once again this pathway is about dedication and showing the Program directors you really want this. I know of people with low scores who did 2 years research just to compensate that score and matched in great slots.
And yes step 3 does help
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But no body will accept me even if I get 270 in step 2

In fact I still do not believe my score I studied for 9 months
I watched all kaplan videos I finished all books I even finished cornad fischer ethics book I read FA twice I finished UW

How I only get 215


I know people who studied only half of my studying and got 230+

what happened?
you didnt focus on pathology ...that was the main thing.
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