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Default After 2014, IMG's will find it hard to get into residency programs in US.

No More IMGs for Residency Training Programs After 2015, Says Journal of American Medical Association
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BY BURHAN AHMEDIN INTERNATIONAL NEWS · USMLE — 16 DEC, 2012 AT 12:08 PM
JAMABy 2015, the number of graduates from US medical schools is expected to surpass the number of positions in residency programs. Going with the trend of preference by US Residency Programs given to US Seniors, it will become nearly impossible for IMGs to get into US GME Programs.

IMGs play an important role in US Healthcare system. Currently, one-quarter of all physicians practicing in the United States and 10% to 15% of trainees in residency programs are IMGs.

In the past few years new US medical schools were setup and already present increased their enrollment due to anticipated shortage of physicians that was feared in coming years. Because of these efforts, US medical students’ enrollments increased consistently from 2010 forward and are expected to reach 26 709 per year by 2016-2017 which equals a 37% increase if compared to figures of 2002-2003.

PGY-1 US Residency program slots however didn’t increase with the same pace as compared to US medical school’s enrollments.

In 2011 alone there were 26 386 PGY-1 positions in Accreditation Council for Graduate Medical Education (ACGME)–accredited programs out of which only 4 829 were filled by IMGs mostly in primary care, a fall of 0.3% since 2010.

Although many community hospitals rely on IMGs for the care of under served areas and population. Keeping in view the new law of Affordable Care Act and non-willingness of US Seniors to go into primary care it will become more difficult for such programs to fill all of their spots for PGY-1 spots.

A study done by Annals of Family Medicine last month also predicted that US will be needing more than 52,000 new primary-care doctors by 2025. But will that be IMGs or AMGs, that only future will decide.

The rapidly increasing number of US medical school graduates coupled with a constrained graduate medical education system will most likely effect the number of IMGs that will be matched to US residency programs in future Residency Matches.

Source: JAMA. 2012;308(21):2193-2194. doi:10.1001/jama.2012.14681 by Giovanni Traverso, MB, BChir, PhD; Graham T. McMahon, MD, MMSc



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is it final..??
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How are these that negative news help us?? If you think the door is closed, simply stop studying for the USMLE yourself, deactivate your account here and go practice medicine somewhere else!! People here have 1% of hope, don't kill it.
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Thanks for your words Wayremdmd. Keeping positive mind. Good luck
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I think every year the same dilemma arises. Then i see all my colleagues from IMG programs match.

Moral of the story: don't believe everything you read. study for the step and do your best. the rest is in god's hands.

good luck to all!
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Definitely!! Infact this year turned out to be a really good one for IMGs. Many of my seniors,even those with the low scores matched this year. keep ur Hopes up high for the next one IA
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i din't mean that but fact is that I am taking decision about pg.i am comparing pro and cones of both option so for now its better for me to check every posibility. doctor2k14 is right about this...??
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Not necessarily…It's been a trend(I know because of people in my family) that residency would get extra competitive but then eventually open up again…The fact is there is a shortage of doctors. Just yesterday I received a medical magazine which was talking about shortage of primary care physicians and how more options are opening up.
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How are these that negative news help us?? If you think the door is closed, simply stop studying for the USMLE yourself, deactivate your account here and go practice medicine somewhere else!! People here have 1% of hope, don't kill it.
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i didnt mean to freak people out i was freaked out myself.. my point was to ask if anyone knew whether this was true or its just a rumor.
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People are jus saying but according to obama's new policy they want more doctors because in the states almost every one has to get a medical insurance,.. This is not me predicting but my friend's dad is a doctor there for more than 20 years and he said it,.. Not to mention that there is a senior in our university who got matched recently in gynecology and his score was 210,.
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Stats don't lie! Google this stuff yourself the medical school enrollment went up in 2012 and i'm not just talking about the MDs here, the DOs went up like crazy and they will graduate in 2016. The problem is that every graduating class applies for the match before they even graduate since they're already done with step 1 and CS. So these 2016 doctors will apply in 2015 thus making the 2015 match the hardest of all. The medical school enrollment for 2012 was some 25500 MDs + DOs so yeah it's going to be hell for us guys. Total number of seats minus 25500 is basically what we'll be competing for.

For those of you who'll start yelling abuses at me here is the article from New England Journal of Medicine.

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056...iewClass=Print

other than this do your own research look for the number of DOs and MDs enrolled in 2012 because simply put, stats dont lie!!
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Also,don't forget there is a lot more to the residency application process than just being an AMG. If you have USCE that levels up the playing field a bit. Your scores are also very important as is your CV. while it is true that there are more AMGs,not all AMGs are of equal caliber. Programs will not just take someone simply because they are an AMG. They look at the whole package so just make sure your package is impressive.
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this particular JAMA article has been circling around since 2012, and before that several dozen articles concerning the same issue addressed that by 2013 the number of IMGs matched will drop. I personally believe rather than delving into matters that won't benefit anyone, why don't you spend that time hitting the books and trying to score high enough to guarantee yourself a spot
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I know a IMG who got a 200 and got matched for Neurology this year. If that gives anyone hope!!!
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http://www.nrmp.org/2014-nrmp-main-r...match-results/

Well i think this speaks for itself and is more representative then some google research or people who just think that they understand politics in terms of "Obama care". I think we will all have a bright future ahead!
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Let me post this educationally valuable quote of Tommy Lee Jones in Men in Black here:

Kay: We do not discharge our weapons in view of the public!
Jay: Man, we ain't got time for this cover-up bullshit! I don't know whether or not you've forgotten, but there's an Arquillian Battle Cruiser that's about to...
Kay: There's always an Arquillian Battle Cruiser, or a Corillian Death Ray, or an intergalactic plague that is about to wipe out all life on this miserable little planet, and the only way these people can get on with their happy lives is that they DO NOT KNOW ABOUT IT!





There is always somebody somewhere babbling about how everything is going to **** and still in the end it works out. Argument over.
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Complete BS. If you look at the data. You'll find that the percentage of IMGs who are matching is increasing every year. Check out the latest nrmp report. Don't believe these hoaxes . Concentrate on your prep.
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