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Unhappy Cant's translate good UW score into good NBME score!

Guys this is very depressing. I guess am getting retarded as the days go by.

I don't understand how I know my concepts good and my UW is not bad yet I ended up getting UWSA2 510-221 yesterday and NBME 7 460-214.

I actually found the UWSA2 harder than NBME 7 but score is opposite. I must admit I got tired during my 4th block in NBME 7.

Tomorrow I will do another NBME and see what it says. if it indicates similar range as these tow then no doubt I'm in that range despite a good UW score. for some reason the way NBME asks question is so much different than UW that I had to quickly adjust my thinking process from "UW style" to "NBME style".

My goal is to score 230 and above but it seems that's a battle for me for now.

I was following real USMLE time breaks. I'm planning on taking my breaks as follows:
block 1--->5min---->block2--->5min-->block 3-->10min-->block 4-->20min--> block 5--> 10min--> block 6---> 10min-->block 7.

I will skip the tutorial.

When I was doing the UWSA2 and NBME 7 I followed this break schedule.

Guys I know I shouldn't get depressed about these but at times it's hard to ignore. I know my knowledge in the bank is much bigger than these scores but so how I can't translate into great score.

I have a cousin who is also preparing for step 1 and he asks questions and concepts and I tend to answer almost 80% of what he asks me. He actually thinks I should give the exam. But until I hear from the horse's mouth (NBME) that am ready to achieve my goal i have to keep plugging away. I want to take NBME 5 tomorrow

What do you think?

Thanks guys.
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How did you take similar breaks in the NBME, the NBME is only 4 blocks!

It seems that you need some fitness and endurance. I noticed that you do well with individual blocks, yet you get tired (loss of concentration) when you do multiple blocks.

I suggest you keep practicing multiple blocks at a time. Like for example, doing 4 UW blocks one after the other early in the morning.

Also, try to sleep early and wake up early.

If you keep doing that for a week or so, you can go and take the exam and get 230.
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Hey Kalekaleo, thanks man. Yea for sure i need to work on my endurance. but again i dont think endurance alone can explain this big mismatch. I will probbaly i have to get used to the "NBME style" as well then hopefully things will be faine. I will actually do the NBME 5 tomorrow then come back and ask you guys to help me figure out GAME plane. thanks. about teh break times, i followed this schedule for all the 4 blocks. 5min-5min-10mins
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Default same problem !!!

I had the same problem exactly !!!
I think we need to do more compact blocks & see what happen .
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Well i have confirmed that my UW score of 72% was BIG time fluke. I did the following the last few days and here is the outcome

UWSA 2= 510-221
NBME 7 = 460-214
NBME 5 = 430-207
UWSA 1 = 480-214

I found UWSA more harder than the NBMEs. I came to the conclusion that the reason why I got good score in UW bank but not in these exams is because in UW my strong areas which were plenty were masking the effect of weak areas. Whereas in these exams, the number of questions of my strong areas were not enough to mask the weak area effect. and also it's possible that I had more question in my weak areas thus leading to low score compared to UW bank score. I'm very sure my overall knoweldge base is better than these scores but in order for me to get my deserved score i have to hit the weak areas. Guys be carful please dont ignore ur weak areas, it can mean the difference between good score and bad score. I believe the weak areas is what accounts for prediction of different NBMEs and UWSAs and why people get different scores. for example if i had usmle score of 221 i would say UWSA 2 was very predictive when in reality there was less number of qs in my weak areas.

I hope to give exam end of march do you think I can pull 230+. based on these NBMEs, my average is 214. thanks guys and good luck.
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hello ,
i have a similar problem,
i hav almost completed my UW with cumulative of 77% and i knw tht my knowledege is enuf for usmle, but a week back i gave nbme 5 and i got 560/236 in that and i was expecting much higher than that...


i dnt think endurance is the main issue here, i was not tired even for a second during NBME, may be its because NBME window style, we cant keep record that how much we hav marked so far, so no time track for that....


and also as u hav mentioned above, i also found that my weak areas were tested more in NBME than in UW...

one more reason i think that in NBME i got borderline performance in behavioral, it means doesnt matter how perfectly i hav done rest of my exam, but in score calculation tht borderline screwed me up..........


and yeah i agree NBME style is a way more different that UW style....
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Are you sure you're not doing UW a multiple times, changing wrong answers into right ones? or doing it in untimed mode? Over 70% (and someone who scored 77%) is incredibly high, so I'm confused as to why you're getting low NBME scores.

I scored 63% in UW and managed 99/241.
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i have done UW in timed random mode and its my first time and i think tht doing tht it again as asessment is waste of time......


i think its my beahv science thts screwing me up, although i hav 77 % cumulative yet my behav science percentile is 30% and tht matters a lot, also i hav cheked my answers of NBME 5 from the key available on net and according to that my 78% answers were correct, bt still i got borderline in b.scnce.....


so i think that getting easy questions (b.science for non IMG) wrong affects ur percentile a lot in their calculation.........


i will post my NBME 6 score after doing tht, may be smwhere in 2-3 march, rite now i m revising my kaplan...........


wish me luck coz i need it very badly..............
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yes it's really weird. I'm now also thinking there may be some anxiety in the play because i do remember having little bit of tremor in my right hand and feeling some palpitations. so my conclusion is multiple factors lead to this mismatch. I know for sure my knowedge base should be around low 230+ at least. Regardless of excuses, I have to believe that my score is what it's and I have to push hard to improve. I don't understand why they don't change the NBME interface to the real exam interface because this alone can cause anxiety for us. I hear UW has the same interface as the real exam. gl imrpoving your target. My exam is on March 31
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Hi guys, I think I also have the same problem here. I did NBME 6 10 days ago after finishing around 10 blocks of UW. I got 79% on average in UW (timed-mixed-unused) at that time, but in NBME 6 I scored only 570/238. It is indeed a good score but not really reflecting what I've achieved so far in UW. Of course I expect to get score higher than 238...but that's not the case. I also got borderline score in behavioral science only. I don't know why this happen, is it because students taking NBME nowadays are consistenly getting higher score so it skews the graph or is it UW score is not predictive anymore.

I am going to do another NBME to confirm this.
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Guys this is very depressing. I guess am getting retarded as the days go by.

I don't understand how I know my concepts good and my UW is not bad yet I ended up getting UWSA2 510-221 yesterday and NBME 7 460-214.

I actually found the UWSA2 harder than NBME 7 but score is opposite. I must admit I got tired during my 4th block in NBME 7.

Tomorrow I will do another NBME and see what it says. if it indicates similar range as these tow then no doubt I'm in that range despite a good UW score. for some reason the way NBME asks question is so much different than UW that I had to quickly adjust my thinking process from "UW style" to "NBME style".

My goal is to score 230 and above but it seems that's a battle for me for now.

I was following real USMLE time breaks. I'm planning on taking my breaks as follows:
block 1--->5min---->block2--->5min-->block 3-->10min-->block 4-->20min--> block 5--> 10min--> block 6---> 10min-->block 7.

I will skip the tutorial.

When I was doing the UWSA2 and NBME 7 I followed this break schedule.

Guys I know I shouldn't get depressed about these but at times it's hard to ignore. I know my knowledge in the bank is much bigger than these scores but so how I can't translate into great score.

I have a cousin who is also preparing for step 1 and he asks questions and concepts and I tend to answer almost 80% of what he asks me. He actually thinks I should give the exam. But until I hear from the horse's mouth (NBME) that am ready to achieve my goal i have to keep plugging away. I want to take NBME 5 tomorrow

What do you think?

Thanks guys.
uwsa is harder than uworld in wat sense ?
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