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hello ,i m mukul from india. i have heared from many people,that it is virtually impossible for IMGs to get surgery positions.can anyone one help and suggest what "special" does an IMG needs to possess(apart from good score) to get surgery.what if i move there with a post-graduate degree in surgery (from india) would that be of any help...............or what ever extra that could be done to enhance chances to get it(surgery).....i need suggestions please. thank you very much.
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I have a family friend who is an IMG and matched into surgery but a while back. He's currently an onco-surgeon in PA so I can share what he told me about what's required of applicants when applying to GS:

1) High scores (>240)
2) Clerkships in the US (in any field of Surgery)
3) Research w/ publications/papers (usually research from the US is preferred)
4) You need to rock the General Surgery program interview! (apparently GS PD's need to be a lot more choosy!)
5) Contacts, contacts, contacts - this is the easiest way to get your application noticed.

Most IMGs nowadays match into a preliminary program (1 year) and then try their luck for a categorical position the following year. As you might have guessed, preliminary surgery doesn't really guarantee a categorical spot. It's more like a 1 year interview where you're constantly assessed on your work ethic, team player skills, and your knowledge in general.

As there are a lot of students who get into pre-lim, the competition can be rather unforgiving.

The ones who don't get into a prelim usually do a research for 8m-1year in the US and then try their luck after having made some acquaintances. However, you would have to finance your stay there (along with obtaining the visa.)
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(first of all thanx for the information) (1)as u mentioned people who could not get into prelims ,go for research generally,now does that means getting into prelims would be more beneficial (though not a guarantee) than research work(relatively)
(2)during this period of 1 year (of course ,only when one could make it through) do they pay us anything (because money is very imp at this point, if one needs to survive there).....and if yes, then how much it could be (any rough guess ?)
(3)where from i can get more information about these prelims ......(please pass any link if possible for you)
(4)some more specific information about these research programs
thank you.

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Here is an example:
http://depts.washington.edu/uwsurgap/Pinprocess.html

I forgot to mention that some universities offer a 2 year prelim program as well.
So you just have to do a google search (for eg. Johns Hopkins general surgery prelim program) if you want to check out more prelim programs (depending on the state and university). The 2 year program might be an even bigger gamble as if you don't match into a categorical spot, you either have to try and see if another residency program will accept you or leave the country.)

Regarding pay, yes you do get paid what a 1st year resident would (anywhere from $48,000-$55,000, again varies widely from state to state but you can certainly support yourself on that salary.)

Regarding research programs, this is the toughest part to answer as you will personally have to call the dept. of the universities you're interested in and get professors numbers/email addresses and contact them. Majority will say no if you have visa requirements but you might get lucky (depending on your past research experience.) Most usually require you to have a valid visa as they will not sponsor you.
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Thanks for your explanation!!
I have another question too: could you apply for another residency first and then do surgery as a fellowship or subspecialty? Ex.: pediatric and fellow surgery...

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Thanks for your explanation!!
I have another question too: could you apply for another residency first and then do surgery as a fellowship or subspecialty? Ex.: pediatric and fellow surgery...

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You're welcome. Unfortunately you can't do that. You're stuck with the residency program you get into, unless you want to match the following year for surgery. In general, one can only do one residency program.
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