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hi people gave the test today!
maybe this will help someone.
you see all exams are different so dont get too worked up about a single persons experience.

well it wasn't easy ill honestly tell you that much.
hardly any straight recall from FA maybe 10-20%
50-60% of the test could be answered from FA and UW concepts, but you had to use logic for those too, no repeat questions
those really vague points from FA and UW were not tested as far as I can tell.


now the remaining part of the test was either very hard application based questions or things I had never seen before.
I could get to two options by eliminating other options but after that I just had to guess and hope for the best.
slides were plenty and were required for making the Dx the stem was not enough.
for eg. they showed me a bed bug and asked if it causes hep B/c or staph or strep infection, that was so bloody weird

graphs were many some easy some hard.
murmur just one.


hard to say which subjects were tested cause they were all linked together.

Anat was mostly U/L, L/L neuro and CTs.
CNS and physio was easy.
biochem was hardly there.
path micro were okay.
pharm, stats were application based questions with graphs and research data to be interpreted.
ethics as expected was linked with path and the options were frikkin weird.

questions were not particularly long.

all in all id say similar to 7 UW blocks or NBME 16.
it was not much about knowing things as much as it was about choosing the right options and that too in short time, pretty much point and shoot.

My scores on form 15 and 16 were 245 and 247.
Im not really happy but Nevertheless I tried my best, not much else I could have done.
Regardless of the score Step 1 has definitely made me a much better doctor than what I would have been had I not given it

If you have doubts you can ask them here.
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Hey congratulations on getting done with the exam

Can you tell about the aspect of the exam in regards to the recent changes in step 1 ... I mean the DSM-5 changes and more focus on preventive measures ??

How was anatomy in general .... ? any hardcore anatomy questions , like muscle insertions etc ?
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Pranav. Last month preparation? Best strategy?
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Can you tell about the aspect of the exam in regards to the recent changes in step 1 ... I mean the DSM-5 changes and more focus on preventive measures ??

How was anatomy in general .... ? any hardcore anatomy questions , like muscle insertions etc ?
Aah those

yup quite a few... again tricky options!!

yes they asked me about the course of the subclavian vein and something about the muscles attached to the proximal femur... i was clueless
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dont worry at all friend, you will have a great score
those are the normal feelings after the test.
congrats on being done with step1!!!
now party party party and celebrate!!!!
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hi people gave the test today!
maybe this will help someone.
you see all exams are different so dont get too worked up about a single persons experience.

well it wasn't easy ill honestly tell you that much.
hardly any straight recall from FA maybe 10-20%
50-60% of the test could be answered from FA and UW concepts, but you had to use logic for those too, no repeat questions
those really vague points from FA and UW were not tested as far as I can tell.


now the remaining part of the test was either very hard application based questions or things I had never seen before.
I could get to two options by eliminating other options but after that I just had to guess and hope for the best.
slides were plenty and were required for making the Dx the stem was not enough.
for eg. they showed me a bed bug and asked if it causes hep B/c or staph or strep infection, that was so bloody weird

graphs were many some easy some hard.
murmur just one.


hard to say which subjects were tested cause they were all linked together.

Anat was mostly U/L, L/L neuro and CTs.
CNS and physio was easy.
biochem was hardly there.
path micro were okay.
pharm, stats were application based questions with graphs and research data to be interpreted.
ethics as expected was linked with path and the options were frikkin weird.

questions were not particularly long.

all in all id say similar to 7 UW blocks or NBME 16.
it was not much about knowing things as much as it was about choosing the right options and that too in short time, pretty much point and shoot.

My scores on form 15 and 16 were 245 and 247.
Im not really happy but Nevertheless I tried my best, not much else I could have done.
Regardless of the score Step 1 has definitely made me a much better doctor than what I would have been had I not given it

If you have doubts you can ask them here.
1. how were biostat and ethics?? were they really hard? were they at same difficulty as nbme 16??
2. any formulas you had to do in the test (besides biostat)??
3. when you mentioned graphs, are the ones we see in physio of the subjects? so physio was heavily tested?
sorry for all the questions but thanks for taking the time to answer.
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As far as ı know having lots of weird questions in exam is not that bad for your score. First they might be experimental. Secondly we dont really know how they calculate this exam. İf these questions are hard and weird for you it is definitely weird for others too. So you will most likely be in safety zone according to your nbmes. Proably the curve for your exam questions is low and even if you answer many questions wrong you will stand in a good place. There was a guy in this forum who gave the exam and said that he marked 15-20 questions in each block. But he ended up with 250 something.
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About histo
I wanna understand slides but kap LN and vid is not good so is it imporatant
Do qbank teach this
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I wanna understand slides but kap LN and vid is not good so is it imporatant
Do qbank teach this
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Also how did u prepare for ct mri?
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Congrats

How long did u take to prepare?

Biochem wasn't tested much?

And good luck for ur score,hope u get 250+..
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hey congrats on being done !
will u say that FA & UW r enough for exam in the last mth now that u have given it? or u feel that kaplan should be reviewed too?

the ques that u say were hard.. hard in the sense that u had no clue or u were stuck b/w 2 optons?

also plz advise with last 2 weeks prep.. thanks in advance..

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1. how were biostat and ethics?? were they really hard? were they at same difficulty as nbme 16??
2. any formulas you had to do in the test (besides biostat)??
3. when you mentioned graphs, are the ones we see in physio of the subjects? so physio was heavily tested?
sorry for all the questions but thanks for taking the time to answer.
1. yes like 16

2. NNT, SD etc nothing new

3. ventricular function curves, drug efficacy, potency, inhibitors etc were asked.
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Do qbank teach this
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yup Histo was covered by qbank.

CTs were hard.
they gave me 4 thorax CTs and told me to arrange them craniocaudally. Ughhh... :-(
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Congrats

How long did u take to prepare?

Biochem wasn't tested much?

And good luck for ur score,hope u get 250+..
took about 8-10 months.

nope just 5-6 questions only.
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hey congrats on being done !
will u say that FA & UW r enough for exam in the last mth now that u have given it? or u feel that kaplan should be reviewed too?

the ques that u say were hard.. hard in the sense that u had no clue or u were stuck b/w 2 optons?

also plz advise with last 2 weeks prep.. thanks in advance..

GL with score & enjoyyy
revising FA thrice was a huge mistake.
I mean if you've given form 16, you'll know what Im talking about.
they dont ask straight mug and vomit stuff.

but yeah stick to those during last two weeks.

many things I was confused between two and atleast 20% questions I had no clue at all.
Like which CYP450 is most common?
Liver embryology?
some pelvic vein embryology?
these are not covered in Kaplan either.

Many more that Ive thankfully forgot you know...

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As far as ı know having lots of weird questions in exam is not that bad for your score. First they might be experimental. Secondly we dont really know how they calculate this exam. İf these questions are hard and weird for you it is definitely weird for others too. So you will most likely be in safety zone according to your nbmes. Proably the curve for your exam questions is low and even if you answer many questions wrong you will stand in a good place. There was a guy in this forum who gave the exam and said that he marked 15-20 questions in each block. But he ended up with 250 something.
I never marked more than 5 questions in UW or even NBME16 but here I was marking 12-15 atleast.

Anyway I sure hope what you're saying is correct.
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revising FA thrice was a huge mistake.
I mean if you've given form 16, you'll know what Im talking about.
they dont ask straight mug and vomit stuff.

but yeah stick to those during last two weeks.

many things I was confused between two and atleast 20% questions I had no clue at all.
Like which CYP450 is most common?
Liver embryology?
some pelvic vein embryology?
these are not covered in Kaplan either.

Many more that Ive thankfully forgot you know...
thanks for answering the questions

could you please elaborate what do you mean by reading thrice was a huge mistake? you mean it has to be more read than 3 times? thanks.
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So if you say fax3 was mistake do you think doing UW more would have increased your score? Do you think doing more uw in last 2-3 week would be much better? What about pathoma ?
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quite strange cz people recommend doing fa as many times as possible
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quite strange cz people recommend doing fa as many times as possible

thats what I have heard from so many people and thought FA would help.
what I meant was FA 3x was of no use coz there were very few straight forward questions from FA.
and many concepts from outside of FA and UW were asked unlike other peoples exam.
I knew both of those very well....
I think I just got unlucky....
dont think I can advise you on what to do... atleast not till I get the score

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So if you say fax3 was mistake do you think doing UW more would have increased your score? Do you think doing more uw in last 2-3 week would be much better? What about pathoma ?

havent got the score buddy, so I cant say
more UW will only make you mug up the answers and as I said, the same questions are never asked.
for me, even the same concepts were not asked.

I mean there were easy questions no doubt, but that would be only half the exam.

pathoma is good.
but after doing so many things you see really new stuff in the exam it just feels bad you know...
the hard ones were not in FA or UW or even Kaplan for that matter.
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Hey! You worked hard for this so just be confident that your score will pay it off. Don't forget that this is the 'score delay' period meaning that most of those crazy questions are probably experimental and won't contribute to your score. Congratulations on being done and thank you for coming back here to help us all. My question is did you get any EKGs? Were they straight forward? And the murmur that you mentioned. Were you able to figure it out from the stem or was the audio required?
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If thats the case then you will befine don't worry. that is for everyone then.
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Hey! You worked hard for this so just be confident that your score will pay it off. Don't forget that this is the 'score delay' period meaning that most of those crazy questions are probably experimental and won't contribute to your score. Congratulations on being done and thank you for coming back here to help us all. My question is did you get any EKGs? Were they straight forward? And the murmur that you mentioned. Were you able to figure it out from the stem or was the audio required?
thanks!
the new test pool on 12th may has added these strange question i guess

yup there were two EKGs but that was not required the question was bout something else that you could figure from the stem.
they were after the pathophys of a weird EKG in a glue sniffer, i picked cardiomypathy.

that murmur was in a young woman so i think it was MVP, however they asked what would be the most likely outcome of that condition. I guessed asymptomatic.
so you see, its about the options and not the question per se
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thanks a lot for sharing your experience..Dont worry you have worked so hard all these months..Hard work will always be rewarded..so you will definitely get a good score....All the best
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the new test pool on 12th may has added these strange question i guess

yup there were two EKGs but that was not required the question was bout something else that you could figure from the stem.
they were after the pathophys of a weird EKG in a glue sniffer, i picked cardiomypathy.

that murmur was in a young woman so i think it was MVP, however they asked what would be the most likely outcome of that condition. I guessed asymptomatic.
so you see, its about the options and not the question per se
thanks for answering all the qs, no worries, you will be fine.
like hope said youve worked so hard, it will definitely carry a reward, lets just wait for July 9.
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hi pranav , did u give ur test today... coz i too gave it today...

mine tooo was reallyyyy realyyy tough.. first 2 blocks were ok but 5 and 6 block were tough.

i got depressed after looking at some the questions that i answered 2-3 easy questions wrong..

atleast 5 to 8 questions in each block i marked which i had no clue about...


atleast 40% of the test was nothing like nbme 16.. mine questions stems too where long.. i hardly managed to complete didnt get time to check...

i am very very scared..
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hi pranav , did u give ur test today... coz i too gave it today...

mine tooo was reallyyyy realyyy tough.. first 2 blocks were ok but 5 and 6 block were tough.

i got depressed after looking at some the questions that i answered 2-3 easy questions wrong..

atleast 5 to 8 questions in each block i marked which i had no clue about...


atleast 40% of the test was nothing like nbme 16.. mine questions stems too where long.. i hardly managed to complete didnt get time to check...

i am very very scared..
If the exam was tough for you ,then there are good chances that it might be tough for all . So your curve might be on the low side . Also these maybe the normal feelings one feel after giving an exam , like as if they have did very badly on the exam though the score comes out exactly opposite . Can you shed some more light on how was your exam and some of your preparation history .

What was your NBME scores .. ?
UW percentage ? UWSA scores ?
other Qbanks than UW ?
How was the anatomy part ?
In what way did you find questions hard ? i.e new info , large stems , etc
How was the slides ? easily recognizable ?
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i hope ur rite npktun..

my nbme scores were not that gr8...

nbme 16 198

nbme 13 198

nbme 12 200

nbme 11 204

uw score aroung lowest 60% highest 80-85% (highest score particularly in pathology and pharmac and lowest score particularly in physio)


i used fa and uworld , usmlerx..

pathoma (for some topics.)

exam subject wise-

anatomy - ok some hard but some easy too..

physio - hard and medium difficulty question with long stems.

micro- less number of questions but i think doable for most of u guys ( as im dummer than everybosy else)

pathology - easy (was quite hapy with it.)

pharmac - really hard questions (just my opinion)

genetics, biostatistics and reseach question - majority of the xam - TOUGH

nothing like nbme 16 which i did and felt before getting my score that i atleast passed...

here i feel messed up..
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Placebo congrats on being done. I'm 2.5 weeks away from exam and i'm freaking!!!!!!
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i hope ur rite npktun..

my nbme scores were not that gr8...

nbme 16 198

nbme 13 198

nbme 12 200

nbme 11 204

uw score aroung lowest 60% highest 80-85% (highest score particularly in pathology and pharmac and lowest score particularly in physio)

i used fa and uworld , usmlerx..

pathoma (for some topics.)

exam subject wise-

anatomy - ok some hard but some easy too..

physio - hard and medium difficulty question with long stems.

micro- less number of questions but i think doable for most of u guys ( as im dummer than everybosy else)

pathology - easy (was quite hapy with it.)

pharmac - really hard questions (just my opinion)

genetics, biostatistics and reseach question - majority of the xam - TOUGH

nothing like nbme 16 which i did and felt before getting my score that i atleast passed...

here i feel messed up..
your NBME scores are on the low side but your UW percentages are nice... if i were you i'd be optimistic ... Go out on a vacation and plan accordingly when the score comes .
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i hope ur rite npktun..

my nbme scores were not that gr8...

nbme 16 198

nbme 13 198

nbme 12 200

nbme 11 204

uw score aroung lowest 60% highest 80-85% (highest score particularly in pathology and pharmac and lowest score particularly in physio)


i used fa and uworld , usmlerx..

pathoma (for some topics.)

exam subject wise-

anatomy - ok some hard but some easy too..

physio - hard and medium difficulty question with long stems.

micro- less number of questions but i think doable for most of u guys ( as im dummer than everybosy else)

pathology - easy (was quite hapy with it.)

pharmac - really hard questions (just my opinion)

genetics, biostatistics and reseach question - majority of the xam - TOUGH

nothing like nbme 16 which i did and felt before getting my score that i atleast passed...

here i feel messed up..
Hey ıt seems you have around 70% cumulative in uworld and that should definitely warrant more than 230 in nbmes . Did you do uworld online random timed first time?
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Placebo congrats on being done. I'm 2.5 weeks away from exam and i'm freaking!!!!!!
Dr.Albert im also freaking out, lets do our best! lets try to not think negative, my test is in 3 weeks.

placebo must feel so relieving finishing this!! you did your best, so lets hope for the best and just celebrate
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it seems like this exam requires %50 hard work and %50 luck.
a friend of mine had high score nbmes and barely passed step1, he said the exact same thing about LUCK, i was reluctant to believe this but im starting to think that it does play an important role.
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Thank you for sharing the experience .What did u do for the slides? How abt genteics and molecular biology.
Are the questions too lengthy? Hardwork will pay one way or the other. I am positive you will get good scores for all your sincere efforts.


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hi people gave the test today!
maybe this will help someone.
you see all exams are different so dont get too worked up about a single persons experience.

well it wasn't easy ill honestly tell you that much.
hardly any straight recall from FA maybe 10-20%
50-60% of the test could be answered from FA and UW concepts, but you had to use logic for those too, no repeat questions
those really vague points from FA and UW were not tested as far as I can tell.


now the remaining part of the test was either very hard application based questions or things I had never seen before.
I could get to two options by eliminating other options but after that I just had to guess and hope for the best.
slides were plenty and were required for making the Dx the stem was not enough.
for eg. they showed me a bed bug and asked if it causes hep B/c or staph or strep infection, that was so bloody weird

graphs were many some easy some hard.
murmur just one.


hard to say which subjects were tested cause they were all linked together.

Anat was mostly U/L, L/L neuro and CTs.
CNS and physio was easy.
biochem was hardly there.
path micro were okay.
pharm, stats were application based questions with graphs and research data to be interpreted.
ethics as expected was linked with path and the options were frikkin weird.

questions were not particularly long.

all in all id say similar to 7 UW blocks or NBME 16.
it was not much about knowing things as much as it was about choosing the right options and that too in short time, pretty much point and shoot.

My scores on form 15 and 16 were 245 and 247.
Im not really happy but Nevertheless I tried my best, not much else I could have done.
Regardless of the score Step 1 has definitely made me a much better doctor than what I would have been had I not given it

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it seems like this exam requires %50 hard work and %50 luck.
yes you are rite..one of my friend gave the exam he got 254 in nbme 16 and he ended up around 220...
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a friend of mine had high score nbmes and barely passed step1, he said the exact same thing about LUCK, i was reluctant to believe this but im starting to think that it does play an important role.
I dont want to believe United States organizing an exam that someone definitely need a pure luck to score high. This is very serious exam and this exam is very important for residency application. İ think Lots of exam experiences written just after the exam have some biases. I think all exams should have standarts.

it is like 20 percent of questions answered by examinees with very low rates( 10-30) 20 percent of questions low rates ( 30-50) again 20 percent fair questions( 50-70) and rest easy ones. i think What determines the difference between 2 exams are topics which exam consists of .

You might have a very good understanding of pathology and this can make you score very high in nbmes and uworld but if you have very poor biochem and behavorial science and your exams hard questions mainly consist of biochem and behavorial science you have a high chance not to get what you expect before exam. Luck comes into play in situations like this. If your hard questions mainly consist of pathology and your weakest areas biochem and behavorial are very straight forward easy questions then you have really high chance to ace this exam because you can deal with these hard patho questions.
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placebo glad to know Im not alone :-)

LUCK is a huge factor but nothing you can do about it.

drhorlicks: slides were okay. Use google more often.
Its very easy for them to put any slide they want.
you cant expect UW to cover all of them.

2 genetics questions were so weird I could not even get the question.
1 pedigree was asked but that was tricky.

molecular was not much.
I had a CD marker question
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Hey I wish you a high score!

I am really confused about gross anatomy; do they ask about pure relations and positions of structures/organs/vessels/nerves.. roughly how many gross anatomy questions to expect?

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I am really confused about gross anatomy; do they ask about pure relations and positions of structures/organs/vessels/nerves.. roughly how many gross anatomy questions to expect?

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I had 30-35 odd questions from Anat+Embryo.

there were such hardcore questions but only few.
So dont worry about it much.

Your limb neuro should be perfect, sensory and motor both.
Coz even on those the options were very close.
FA and UW are definitely not enough, I don't know what else can help though
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absolutely rite pranav,

i had 5-10% of so called direct (1 step question)

most of the exam was 3 step and rest 2 step question combining 2-3 subjects..

genetics questions had to read them twice just to understand what they were asking..

pranav i too was very glad when i found out that im not alone (sorry to say this)

i hope i atleast secure passing score...

still recollecting questions and looking up whether i got them rite or wrong.

i have a questions, how many questions should i get rite just to pass such kind of exam..
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absolutely rite pranav,

i had 5-10% of so called direct (1 step question)

most of the exam was 3 step and rest 2 step question combining 2-3 subjects..

genetics questions had to read them twice just to understand what they were asking..

pranav i too was very glad when i found out that im not alone (sorry to say this)

i hope i atleast secure passing score...

still recollecting questions and looking up whether i got them rite or wrong.

i have a questions, how many questions should i get rite just to pass such kind of exam..

haha...damned If I know!!
only thing we can do is have faith in The Curve.
If its like the NBME curve with % correct giving you the score, we are screwed big time.

I too remember those weird questions, Its like Flashbacks of PTSD!!!!

Try not to think much about it, Use suppression, July is a long way.
Watching Breaking Bad and GoT helps a lot :-)
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haha...damned If I know!!
only thing we can do is have faith in The Curve.
If its like the NBME curve with % correct giving you the score, we are screwed big time.

I too remember those weird questions, Its like Flashbacks of PTSD!!!!

Try not to think much about it, Use suppression, July is a long way.
Watching Breaking Bad and GoT helps a lot :-)[/QUOTE]


super ptsd..

what do you mean by falling in the curve..

what does nbme % mean ( i used to get 72-75% on nbme)

im already looking up for residency proceudres in switzerland other eu countries..

thinknig of mba ( hospital admin) in aus or singapore. but i love treating patients i love doing surgeries

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only thing we can do is have faith in The Curve.
If its like the NBME curve with % correct giving you the score, we are screwed big time.

I too remember those weird questions, Its like Flashbacks of PTSD!!!!

Try not to think much about it, Use suppression, July is a long way.
Watching Breaking Bad and GoT helps a lot :-)

super ptsd..

what do you mean by falling in the curve..

what does nbme % mean ( i used to get 72-75% on nbme)

im already looking up for residency proceudres in switzerland other eu countries..

thinknig of mba ( hospital admin) in aus or singapore. but i love treating patients i love doing surgeries

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super ptsd..

what do you mean by falling in the curve..

what does nbme % mean ( i used to get 72-75% on nbme)

im already looking up for residency proceudres in switzerland other eu countries..

thinknig of mba ( hospital admin) in aus or singapore. but i love treating patients i love doing surgeries

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relax!!
sorry for speculating, nobody actually knows how they score.
so you cant say anything till result day!
you should take a break for a few weeks atleast!
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so if u had to change something about ur studying way..what would it be?

my exam is next week.. im kinda frreaking out now lol
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Congrats bro,you're smart and I'm sure you will do great !!
What about psychiatry,was it doable or weird??
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na wouldnt change anything honestly, I dont want to keep regrets. I did what I thought was best.


well come to think of it I cant think of any psych questions. maybe because they were easy
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