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Hi guys. I've benefited a lot from the posts and discussions on this forum and thought of returning the favor by posting my experience with step 2CK earlier this month.
Background IMG. YOG 2010.
Step 1....245 end of 2013
What most of the experiences on this forum says is true. I found step 2 A LOT harder and far more vague than step 1. I wasn't happy with my step 1 score and took some extra time to prepare for step 2 but in all honesty I could've halved my prep time of 8 months and it wouldn't have made much of a difference. I used MTB2 for IM and MTB3 for everything else. These books are good but they're just not enough to get a good score. You absolutely must go through USMLE WORLD QBANK (UWQB) with a fine tooth comb if you hope to know most of which appears in the exam. There were questions on Babesiosis, Erlichiosis and tons of other topics I didn't see on MTB but are found in UWQB. These are a few tips BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE. The question pool is so vast that your experience might totally differ.
1) MTBs are good as a base but UWQB IS AN ABSOLUTE MUST.
2) STEP 1 IS ESSENTIAL. Honestly hats off to you guys who did well on step 2 without sitting for step 1 first. I was asked at least 10 questions directly from step 1 stuff. Know immunodeficiencies inside out. I was even given a slide of a fungus to identify. Glycogen and lysosomal storage diseases were asked. All the side effects of drugs are important, their mechanism of action less so.
3) I had 3 heart sounds, at least 3 ECGs and tons and tons of CXRs. Pulmonology is super important. What threw me for a spin were the fundoscopy and antenatal USS slides. I got two of each and I hadn't prepared well for them.
4) Preventive medicine is really really really important. I got at least 20 questions.
5) The resources I mentioned are more than enough for peds, surgery and obs.& gyn.
6) Don't worry too much about psych. The questions are long but pretty straight forward. Know substances of abuse and poisoning, overdose really well.
7) I didn't get any drug ads so I guess I was lucky on that account.

EXAM DAY Getting a good nights sleep is essential and unfortunately I barely slept an hour. Being groggy and sleepy makes a difficult test pretty much impossible. So sleep as much as possible and try to be fresh. The prometric center I chose had other examinees sitting for exams that required a lot of typing. The damn click clicking of the keyboards drove me nuts. I asked for ear plugs and they worked to some extent but it was only after the exam that I found out there were noise canceling headphones available. That really drove me up the wall. So be aware of it since background noise is a real problem if you're even half as neurotic as I am.
As to the exam itself I'd say 25% of it was easy, 50% just f**king vague and infuriating and final 25% sucked the biggest #@#^%&%$. I honestly don't know whether I even passed. I can't adequately describe the infuriating 50% but trust me it'll really bake your noodle since its stuff you really know well. For example think about the two ways of getting heparin induced thrombocytopenia. The way of managing each is drastically different. The vignette will describe a scenario which fits both forms that'll just leave you scratching your head. The worst thing is the time constraints. You'll need to finish each question in about a minute if you want to go over the marked ones. I barely had 5 min left at the end of each block for the final 5 questions. So review was impossible. The questions themselves were not overly long, about the same as anything on a practice test. It's just the vague, ambivalence of most of the questions that makes it impossible. My practice scores were NMBE 2 221 as a baseline after step 1, NMBE 4 235 three months from the test and UWSA 262 a couple of weeks out. I got 84% on the free questions. I'm taking a week off to get laid, so I'm free and happy to answer any questions you might have. Study hard and best of luck.

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Hahaha nicely finished!
Good luck on being done.

Did you do any kaplan videos or anything else? What do you think may help for preventative medicine? Cuz there isn't enough in UW or a MTB 2/3.

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Thanks for the post!
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No, I didn't touch anything from Kaplan. I never liked their books. Way too long and just too boring.
I thought the preventive section in UWQB was sufficient for the exam.
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No, I didn't touch anything from Kaplan. I never liked their books. Way too long and just too boring.
I thought the preventive section in UWQB was sufficient for the exam.
what might you think is necessary for a 250+?
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Haha, beats me. If I knew that I wouldn't be whining on a forum. MTB and UWQB are enough. It's just the questions are twisted and just so uncertain.

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Hey love your post. Thanks for the input. Appreciate it. Good luck for results.

i have my exam in 2 weeks. Last week i took uwsa and scored 242. So plan to revise my UW notes+MTBs these two weeks and take the test. Hoping for 240+? My question is.. I finished my online uw 3 weeks ago. And despite the fact i am continuously revising uw stuff over and over again, do i need to give another round to UW (which will be my 3rd one) before the test? My online 3 mo subscription has expired and i would have to do it offline. what do you suggest?
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Hi. I think it's not repeating the questions that's important but studying the explanation. If you've made notes of most of the answers I don't see why you should do the questions again. Be really thorough with the common stuff like pneumonia and TB.
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Hi. I think it's not repeating the questions that's important but studying the explanation. If you've made notes of most of the answers I don't see why you should do the questions again. Be really thorough with the common stuff like pneumonia and TB.
Hey congrats on gettin over with this,

Do we need to read the whole of FA step 1? Got my exam in 28 days..

How is UWSA in terms of difficulty..coz i need to adjust which assessments i need to take 1st..
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Hi. I think it's not repeating the questions that's important but studying the explanation. If you've made notes of most of the answers I don't see why you should do the questions again. Be really thorough with the common stuff like pneumonia and TB.
Hey congrats on gettin over with this,

Do we need to read the whole of FA step 1? Got my exam in 28 days..

How is UWSA in terms of difficulty..coz i need to adjust which assessments i need to take 1st..
You need to know pathology pretty well. Not to the extent that's required for step 1,but the basics. I was directly asked the pathology behind common lung conditions. You needn't know histology all that well but everything else is important.
UWSA is good but I thought it was easier than the real thing
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Hi. I think it's not repeating the questions that's important but studying the explanation. If you've made notes of most of the answers I don't see why you should do the questions again. Be really thorough with the common stuff like pneumonia and TB.
Sure. makes sense. Thanks!
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Hey..
I am starting my prep now and I am going through uWorld explanations simultaneously while reading MTBs.. Approximately how long do you think this should take?
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haha it was a Good read & very helpfull , & congrats for slaying this beast down,,

i have a question: i too step-1 in jan2014 so its been 8 months gap now
i did just MTBs & UW , doing UW X2 time..
hope fully by december it will be UWx 3 times & i am very slow reader/observer of details

should i supplement any other Qbank? or Kaplan notes? or FA step-1?

its been a while since i read those , Cat scratch disease & Blah bla shi***
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I am starting my prep now and I am going through uWorld explanations simultaneously while reading MTBs.. Approximately how long do you think this should take?
That really depends on you and how fast you retain information. Just don't spend too much time on MTB. It's UWQB that'll really get you a high score.
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haha it was a Good read & very helpfull , & congrats for slaying this beast down,,

i have a question: i too step-1 in jan2014 so its been 8 months gap now
i did just MTBs & UW , doing UW X2 time..
hope fully by december it will be UWx 3 times & i am very slow reader/observer of details

should i supplement any other Qbank? or Kaplan notes? or FA step-1?

its been a while since i read those , Cat scratch disease & Blah bla shi***
I think MTB, UWQB and FIRST AID STEP 1 are more than enough for step 2. You really need to know all the topics since the representation is not proportionate to how important we think a topic is. For example I got a few questions on zoonoses but NONE on sickle cell. It was so weird.
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Got my score. 258. Thanks for the well wishes and advice guys. Feel free to ask anything.

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Got my score. 258. Thanks for the well wishes and advice guys. Feel free to ask anything.
Congrats again. Where did you annotate UWorld? Can it be annotated into MTB?
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Got my score. 258. Thanks for the well wishes and advice guys. Feel free to ask anything.
Congrats again. Where did you annotate UWorld? Can it be annotated into MTB?
No, I made separate notes. To be honest UWQB has a lot more than MTB. I didn't even see certain major topics in MTB. If I could do it all over again I'd spend 2 or 3 months on MTB and twice as long on UWQB.
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No, I made separate notes. To be honest UWQB has a lot more than MTB. I didn't even see certain major topics in MTB. If I could do it all over again I'd spend 2 or 3 months on MTB and twice as long on UWQB.
Ooh ok. Thank you.
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How many times u did uworld Volkmann
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haha it was a Good read & very helpfull , & congrats for slaying this beast down,,

i have a question: i too step-1 in jan2014 so its been 8 months gap now
i did just MTBs & UW , doing UW X2 time..
hope fully by december it will be UWx 3 times & i am very slow reader/observer of details

should i supplement any other Qbank? or Kaplan notes? or FA step-1?

its been a while since i read those , Cat scratch disease & Blah bla shi***
Hi...can i ask how much u scored in uworld first round
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Pakistan congrats

nice job

and thanks for sharing your experience

let us know about your uworld score 1st pass 2nd pass and so on

plus is biostats enough in uworld for the exam

do u think we should look for a source of antenatal ultrasounds?
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I only did one pass. I think I got around 73%. I really don't think percentages matter since I did it subject wise and not random. USWA is the best predictor for step 2CK
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Congrats man! A really wonderful score!
We have almost the same step 1 score score and was really disappointed with it because I put crazy hours and an entire year cramming books. Since I want a competitive specialty, I badly need to score in high 250s and 260 zones. I started with MTB2 and although found it an easy read, the information are really volatile and don't stick in my brain. After spending a month on MTB2, I barely finished half of it, so I decided to skip it an move to UW. I am doing UW as a learning source and take notes on a notebook. Not sure if I am biased, but really found it very educational so far.

1) Do you think doing UW, then another bank, then UW again is enough to get high 250s and 260? Is it safe to skip MTBs?

2) What is the best source to study for preventive medicine?

3) What sections of step 1 FA I need to revise and skim through?

4) How many mistakes (at least) you are sure about that you got wrong? This is an obsessive question because for step 1, having 40 mistakes keep you in the 240 zone

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Congrats man! A really wonderful score!
We have almost the same step 1 score score and was really disappointed with it because I put crazy hours and an entire year cramming books. Since I want a competitive specialty, I badly need to score in high 250s and 260 zones. I started with MTB2 and although found it an easy read, the information are really volatile and don't stick in my brain. After spending a month on MTB2, I barely finished half of it, so I decided to skip it an move to UW. I am doing UW as a learning source and take notes on a notebook. Not sure if I am biased, but really found it very educational so far.

1) Do you think doing UW, then another bank, then UW again is enough to get high 250s and 260? Is it safe to skip MTBs?

2) What is the best source to study for preventive medicine?

3) What sections of step 1 FA I need to revise and skim through?

4) How many mistakes (at least) you are sure about that you got wrong? This is an obsessive question because for step 1, having 40 mistakes keep you in the 240 zone

Thanks and congrats again!
I think I remember you. Didn't you ask the same thing for step 1?? The number of questions wrong means absolutely nothing. I thought my step 1 was super easy and expected at least 255. This time I wouldn't have been surprised if I had failed. I can't tell you how many I got wrong...... Could be 50, could be 100. The curve was lenient. UWQB is enough for everything. Certain stuff in MTB like TB testing were useful but concentrate on UWQB. If you really stick to a plan getting 270 is not so hard on this. Way easier than in step 1.

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Got my score. 258. Thanks for the well wishes and advice guys. Feel free to ask anything.
Many many congratz dear..thats really a great score.
I got 243 in my step 1 a couple of weeks back and i have started studying for CK and i m planning for end of feb/start of march 2015..Just wanna ask u that how much minimum time is required for CK just after step 1 studying almost 7 to 8 hours /day ?and when should i take uworld ?i m currently doing mtb2 (IM) .
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Got my score. 258. Thanks for the well wishes and advice guys. Feel free to ask anything.
Many many congratz dear..thats really a great score.
I got 243 in my step 1 a couple of weeks back and i have started studying for CK and i m planning for end of feb/start of march 2015..Just wanna ask u that how much minimum time is required for CK just after step 1 studying almost 7 to 8 hours /day ?and when should i take uworld ?i m currently doing mtb2 (IM) .
your kind guidance will be highly appreciated
Hi, thanks. The time needed really depends on you and how quickly you retain information. Since I'm an IMG I wanted to score as much as possible and took around 18 months for both steps. I think you should start UWQB as soon as possible. I studied one section in MTB and did the corresponding section in UWQB. Keep UWSA for the last month because that has the best correlation. Good luck.
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