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THIS IS A CAUTIONARY TALE TO ALL THOSE ADD / PROCRASTINATORS

Well here it goes todays the last day and im totally screwed. Due to multiple mistakes and other issues and just damned laziness on my part i delayed my exams again and again and again but without really utilizin that time to study. I finished medicine for the first time back in back in beggining of august then for the next month and a half i didnt study. Hell i barley even saw my books in that time then at the end of september i got my ass back in gear and started to push myself.


Since that time i did surgery from the kaplan book (i only read the 2nd half and skipped over the 1st half ) then did the surgery questions from u world.

Then i did peads which was hard and painful as i had practically forgotten all of my internal medicine so i had to keep refering back to my MTB medicine section. i did it from kaplan then did the uworld questions for it.

Then i did ob/gyn using MTB-Ck AND MTB- Step 3 combined ( they each compliment each other and if u do only one u are missing many topics that the other covers better ). Then i did the questions from uworld.

Then i did ent, eye, and infectious disease and dermatology ( i had left that out when doing medicine). book + questions.

i finished all of this by the 14 of october then i pushed as hard as i could to review i was able to redo medicine ,ob/gyn and half of peads ( no time for redoing questions but i did write the relavant info down in my notes and read them )

I still havnt reviewed psychiatry since i did it back in august nor have i reviewed surgery and only did half of peads review.

This morning i reset my uworld qbank ( aggrgate was 64%) and did 2 blocks random mixed timed and got a 79 and 81 ( average for them was 58 and 63) so that makes me a little happy that maybe i do know something.

Im dead tired and cant study any more i just fell asleep while reading a little while ago (renal section of peads) so im going to go home have a good dinner and try to review psychiatry before going to sleep.

I hope to god i dont fail or get a really low score like i did on my step 1( practically same thing happened wasted time didnt study time ran out took exam got low score)

@drnpatel if ur reading this i hope ur kaplan quetions arenet indicative of my actual lvl because if it is in dead.
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GOD DMAN ECFMG WONT LET ME PRINT MY GOD DAMN PERMIT!!!!!!!!!!! its giving me errors and wont display it. Exam is in the morning what the hell am i going to do!!!!
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gud luck docnas...everything will go welll keep ur cool...n everyone dont delay printing ur permits do it asap...
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best of luck drnas! u ll do fine. i v the same problem with ecfmg permit. errors and errors!!! i had to schedule my test .they asked me scheduling number and i cant open the permit. call ecfmg!! and call prometric regional office.
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good luck to you.
my exam is also 1 day away! i totally know what you're going thru.
good luck. hope we'll both do well!
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THIS IS A CAUTIONARY TALE TO ALL THOSE ADD / PROCRASTINATORS

Well here it goes todays the last day and im totally screwed. Due to multiple mistakes and other issues and just damned laziness on my part i delayed my exams again and again and again but without really utilizin that time to study. I finished medicine for the first time back in back in beggining of august then for the next month and a half i didnt study. Hell i barley even saw my books in that time then at the end of september i got my ass back in gear and started to push myself.


Since that time i did surgery from the kaplan book (i only read the 2nd half and skipped over the 1st half ) then did the surgery questions from u world.

Then i did peads which was hard and painful as i had practically forgotten all of my internal medicine so i had to keep refering back to my MTB medicine section. i did it from kaplan then did the uworld questions for it.

Then i did ob/gyn using MTB-Ck AND MTB- Step 3 combined ( they each compliment each other and if u do only one u are missing many topics that the other covers better ). Then i did the questions from uworld.

Then i did ent, eye, and infectious disease and dermatology ( i had left that out when doing medicine). book + questions.

i finished all of this by the 14 of october then i pushed as hard as i could to review i was able to redo medicine ,ob/gyn and half of peads ( no time for redoing questions but i did write the relavant info down in my notes and read them )

I still havnt reviewed psychiatry since i did it back in august nor have i reviewed surgery and only did half of peads review.

This morning i reset my uworld qbank ( aggrgate was 64%) and did 2 blocks random mixed timed and got a 79 and 81 ( average for them was 58 and 63) so that makes me a little happy that maybe i do know something.

Im dead tired and cant study any more i just fell asleep while reading a little while ago (renal section of peads) so im going to go home have a good dinner and try to review psychiatry before going to sleep.

I hope to god i dont fail or get a really low score like i did on my step 1( practically same thing happened wasted time didnt study time ran out took exam got low score)

@drnpatel if ur reading this i hope ur kaplan quetions arenet indicative of my actual lvl because if it is in dead.


I have been watching ur activities for few days...u r doing very firn..and studied well have faith...dont loose ur conc in between exam...u will indeed go very well...all d best...
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I thought i was screwed before but now ive been royally screwed ECFMG wont print my permit and prometric wont let me take the exam without my permit. im in the prometric center right now. i had talked to ECFMG at exactly 9AM and the guy said sorry we dont know exactly whats happening and we called the computer department to try to fix the problem. As for me im officially listed as missing my appointment today as i wasnt ready with the necessary documents.

To put it simply i cant give my exam today and theres no available dates in my area till next week AND the fact that i dont have time to give it next week.
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You will do fine. Just be confident and believe in your memory and God. You will remember everything on test. My Best wishes with you. You were doing great on Kaplan questions, I know that.(Even you found Kaplan's mistakes in two question-One with HbA1c and other was of Antibiotic Prophylaxis). So you have a great potential and you definitely gonna nail this test.

Best luck!!!!!

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Everything happens for good. Just revise MTB and weak area questions from UW. You have now 1 or 2 weeks more, that is a good sign and you have now time to at least do those thing which you didn't do because you were running out of time. AND it's a LAST CHANCE, Don't DARE to be lazy now. Start reading now and take prometric appointment ASAP.
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First of all thanks to everyone for the wishes. To be honest im on the verge of a homicidal rampage here ,either that or a psychotic break. As someone so eloquently put it once "I dont SUFFER from insanity, I ENJOY every minute of it.

situation so far

I had to call in to prometric (an almost 40 minute wait time to speak to them ) Initially they said i couldnt reset my date as its being held by the system as it was listed as a missed appointment because it wasnt their fault i didnt have my schdualing permit. i asked to speak to the supervisor and he said he would be able to do it and reset my date but i would have to pay 117 dollars as the fee . Since i dont have the time or the energy to go thru ECFMG and fight with them and im sure in the end they will say well you should have printed it earlier ( which i know everyone else in my family is going to tell me furthur adding to my stress) so i said ok and paid the money.

Initially they werent able to find a date anywhere in november but as we were talking a date popped up for tom morning at the same center , I yelled take it (didnt want to miss it)and he selected it but then a thought occurred to me what if ECFMG doesnt fix their problem by tommorow morning? so i yell again WAIT! he had already selected it and confirmed it but he was able to reset it again as a one time courtesy . long story short after much searching i was able to get a date at a center farther than my original center but still reasonable for the 27th.

I hope to God ECFMG gets their **** together by then and fixes the permit issue because the guy did say that if i dont have my permit by thursday , i cant take my exam it will again be marked as a missed appointment and i would have to pay the fee again.


SO GUYS PRINT THAT DAMN PERMIT AS SOON AS U GET IT AND PUT IT SOMEPLACE SAFE you do not want to go thru the agony of mentally preparing urself for an exam and actually going to the center and not being able to take it. Its not easy on a guy like me who has a deep seated hatred of exams anyway.
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yeah u r right.i don't understand y prometric and ecfmg have all the problems wen we r taking exam.seriously. i checked seat availability yesterday nite called them in the morning to schedule my test . and the permit didnt open.they said i cdnt schedule without scheduling number.why don't u call ecfmg!!! because prometric doesnt take responsibility fer ecfmg.i ve literally 10-12 days till my planned exam date.can anybody tell me what to revise in those days. did uworld second time. only surgery left which IA will b done tomorrow or day after tomorrow.didnt open kaplan after doin them twice sum 3-4 months ago.UWSA all four nbmes done with highest of 218.
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THIS IS A CAUTIONARY TALE TO ALL THOSE ADD / PROCRASTINATORS

Well here it goes todays the last day and im totally screwed. Due to multiple mistakes and other issues and just damned laziness on my part i delayed my exams again and again and again but without really utilizin that time to study. I finished medicine for the first time back in back in beggining of august then for the next month and a half i didnt study. Hell i barley even saw my books in that time then at the end of september i got my ass back in gear and started to push myself.


Since that time i did surgery from the kaplan book (i only read the 2nd half and skipped over the 1st half ) then did the surgery questions from u world.

Then i did peads which was hard and painful as i had practically forgotten all of my internal medicine so i had to keep refering back to my MTB medicine section. i did it from kaplan then did the uworld questions for it.

Then i did ob/gyn using MTB-Ck AND MTB- Step 3 combined ( they each compliment each other and if u do only one u are missing many topics that the other covers better ). Then i did the questions from uworld.

Then i did ent, eye, and infectious disease and dermatology ( i had left that out when doing medicine). book + questions.

i finished all of this by the 14 of october then i pushed as hard as i could to review i was able to redo medicine ,ob/gyn and half of peads ( no time for redoing questions but i did write the relavant info down in my notes and read them )

I still havnt reviewed psychiatry since i did it back in august nor have i reviewed surgery and only did half of peads review.

This morning i reset my uworld qbank ( aggrgate was 64%) and did 2 blocks random mixed timed and got a 79 and 81 ( average for them was 58 and 63) so that makes me a little happy that maybe i do know something.

Im dead tired and cant study any more i just fell asleep while reading a little while ago (renal section of peads) so im going to go home have a good dinner and try to review psychiatry before going to sleep.

I hope to god i dont fail or get a really low score like i did on my step 1( practically same thing happened wasted time didnt study time ran out took exam got low score)

@drnpatel if ur reading this i hope ur kaplan quetions arenet indicative of my actual lvl because if it is in dead.
Same thing happened to me. I had step 1 scheduled for today, couldnt get my permit and started freaking out. Prometric gave me till 8:30 and ECFMG couldnt come up with it. My eligibility ends oct 31. ECFMG said they will extend it for a few day after my eligibility so i can pick another date at the same center. But im worried ill forget stuff.. You think i should book a sooner date at a center 40 miles away? they have a date oct 31
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@wow - when you called did ecfmg offer u a refund for the exam fee? cuz my situation is exactly like urs ie eligibility ends on 31 when i called them they were not very helpful hell all they said is sorry nothing we can do

as for booking it 40 miles away think about your comfort level how long to reach there in the morning of the exam + atleast another 30 minutes for being safe . so if u have to get up at 5 in the morning when u usually get up by 8 would be a big disruption in your usual habits which is one thing you really don't want to do on the morning of an exam . atleast thts my opinion

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Also i know i should be thankful for the extra day but to be honest i fell depressed and lethargic /tired. Almost as tired i would have been if i did give the exam.. I think its a rebound from all the cortisol and other stress hormones from this morning....

Im in the library sitting to my book and have been here for over an hour and the whole time ive just been looking AT my book . by looking AT my book i mean books open and im reading the same page and my mnd wanders here and there and on finishing it i have no memory of what the topic was forget about details
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i donno wat to say! but i think u shud practice few blocks!and read their explanation.and relax if u have exam in one day. not much u can do in one day.prolly revise ur notes.but u mite have already done them.
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The SAGA CONTINUES. This is just getting ridiculous i just got an email from prometric

Dear Candidate,

This email is to advise you that your testing appointment scheduled with Prometric had to be cancelled due to the site experiencing technical issues.

We will attempt to call you in addition to this email to schedule a new test date, time and location that suits your request. If we are unable to reach you, Prometric will schedule your exam to the next available date. An email confirmation will be sent with the new exam details. When unable to test on the new test date, time and location, please call our Regional Contact Center to arrange a new exam date, time and location. Contact details can be found on www.prometric.com/contactus.


Im on the phone waiting for them to tell me what the hell is going on
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if it's about ECFMG, the permit is opening nw. i noted down my scheduling number.if prometric i don't understand y they have all technical issues this year. they cancelled my exam three times. in the end all is well that ends well. hope it does work fer u!. call prometric regional office tomorrow and schedule the date .GOod news is that they r nt goin to charge u anymore. only one thing good about technical issue:P
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I already downloaded and printed my schedualing permit ( 3 copies , 1 with me in my bag and 2 at home just incase)

The problem is with the site where i was supposed to take the test they have some kind of problem with their computers so wont be able to give the exam tommorow.

I got off the phone with prometric initially they said they were able to find a date in another nearby center for november 8th .to say i was impatient/frustrated would be putting it nicely anyway long story short i escalated the issue and talked to the supervisor and laid out flat that i will be giving my exam tomorrow no excuse i dont care how they do it or what they do my exam has to be given tommorow AND it has to be at a reasonable location as they can not expect me to drive 5 hours and then give a 9 hour exam.

He said he would talk to the prometic manager and they would see what they can do as according to his computer there were no places available in the whole NY /NJ for tommorow or even friday. He took my number and i took his name and his extension number and he said he would call me with an hour or 2 to tell me what they can do for me.
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And now a sigh of relief they sent me a new confirmation letter for tommorow but at another location which to be accurate would be even easier for me to reach. So yes it came out for the better but still that mental scream of frustration is not something you want the day before ur steps.
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I've read your thread, and I wish you good luck. I'm a procrastinator, such as yourself, but I'm sure you've studied enough to succeed.
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hmmm.... sad story... i think this is just God's way of giving you more time allowance for study. use it wise dude.

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Well exams done and over with. I just spent the last day recuperating from the experiance. If i can sum up the whole thing in 2 words it would be LONG and TIRING.

As to the exam itself nothing too crazy. To be honest theres wasnt much there that i can say was "huh what the hell are they talking about" type of questions. Almost every question there was either covered in usmle world or MTB, hell there are a few questions that are practically direct answers from MTB.

That being said i really noticed my lack of review as many times i would remeber the topic and i would be able to narrow down the answer to 2 choices but couldnt really remember which one was the correct one. These were topics that i had covered but only remembered 70% and not 100%. So those questions really frustrated me as i knew i was missing out on points that should have been easy points for me.

Biostats questions to be honest were preety easy nothing crazy remember your definitions and formulas and it would be good.

As for those new drug review questions they werent bad my advice before you dive into the addvertisement read the questions first. as it would allow you to know where to focus on as the add's are lengthy and you dont want to waste time reading the whole thing when u can answer the question by only reading 1 paragraph.

Lots of gyne questions again nothing crazy but you do need to know your definitions and dates.

Surgery well since surgery peads and medicine are so involved with each other i cant say which was surgery which was medicine. Same for peads.

psychiatry LEARN DEPRESSION i mean LEARN IT!!!! learn it in every way and form. If its a type of depression learn about it. Learn the definitions and time frames. same for shizo and its types and the drugs.
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well,was waiting for ur post...so u say MTB is the bible ryt????is it mtb2 or 3???gud luck with ur result...i saw the frustration u went thru
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Well exams done and over with. I just spent the last day recuperating from the experiance. If i can sum up the whole thing in 2 words it would be LONG and TIRING.

As to the exam itself nothing too crazy. To be honest theres wasnt much there that i can say was "huh what the hell are they talking about" type of questions. Almost every question there was either covered in usmle world or MTB, hell there are a few questions that are practically direct answers from MTB.

That being said i really noticed my lack of review as many times i would remeber the topic and i would be able to narrow down the answer to 2 choices but couldnt really remember which one was the correct one. These were topics that i had covered but only remembered 70% and not 100%. So those questions really frustrated me as i knew i was missing out on points that should have been easy points for me.

Biostats questions to be honest were preety easy nothing crazy remember your definitions and formulas and it would be good.

As for those new drug review questions they werent bad my advice before you dive into the addvertisement read the questions first. as it would allow you to know where to focus on as the add's are lengthy and you dont want to waste time reading the whole thing when u can answer the question by only reading 1 paragraph.

Lots of gyne questions again nothing crazy but you do need to know your definitions and dates.

Surgery well since surgery peads and medicine are so involved with each other i cant say which was surgery which was medicine. Same for peads.

psychiatry LEARN DEPRESSION i mean LEARN IT!!!! learn it in every way and form. If its a type of depression learn about it. Learn the definitions and time frames. same for shizo and its types and the drugs.

thats very wonderfully stated Doc.nas ..atlast ur exams are over njoy...

i have few doubts about what u have mentioned...

Lots of gyne questions again nothing crazy but you do need to know your definitions and dates.---- means about obs dates ..like ?definitions like?

Surgery well since surgery peads and medicine are so involved with each other i cant say which was surgery which was medicine. Same for peads.
--- so do UW cover all aspect of surgery?? do we need to do kaplan?....planning to do one q bank which will be suffient

thanx for sharing ur experience

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yeah i meant the dates and times and definitions with regard to obs. As in when is it a prolonged labor or arrested labor and screening tests done at which time frame. also learn about ectopic pregnancys. As to gyn well the only topic i remember was PID and ofcourse pap screening and what to do with regards to the result you get from the pap smear.


The kaplan book for surgery was preety easy ( i only did the 2nd portion from it ) But yeah i felt uworld did cover the major portions of it. I felt the hardest part was recognizing the diagnosis from the question. So uworld ofcourse was the best for that

@sonu well i did medicine only from MTB-2 with uworld i felt it covered almost eerythig but again since i wasnt very good with my review ( i only reviewed once even though i had done it back in august) .

Ob/Gyn from both MTB-2 and MTB-3 combined both of them are needed as they compliment each other in missing topics. I might have not gotten many questions from gyne but thats the luck of the draw so who knows you might get majority questions from gyne instead of obs.
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Also as to qbanks i personally only did UW but a few people who i talked to who did both qbanks had nothing good to say about kaplan. But again do whatever is best for you. Each person has their own lvl of knowledge and deficiency's.
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docnas,

i too felt that UW offline covered more than KLN and MTB3 for surgery.

would u recommend UW offline for obgyn tho? i havent done UWoffline for obgyn but i have read KLN twice and MTB3 once and yet i feel obgyn is my weakest subject. help plsss....:sorry:
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I did UW online only i didnt do offline as i felt alot of them were changed and added upon in the onine version ( hell i remember doing a question tht was added on oct 11th 2011) so i cant help you with regards to offline questions. But generally speaking you again need to do questions in ob/gyn.

My personal Opinion every book you use is great in giving you details about a disease/process/ whatever but its the questions that make you think and put the information in a way that you can recognize it when its presented to you in a scenario format. Like even though i knew all the details about a disease for example intestinal obstruction I wouldnt really be able to recognize it in a question until after seeing it atleast once( or more as it gives you more ways to view the way they can put that information to you).
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thanks for the help and gud luck with ur result docnas
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I did UW online only i didnt do offline as i felt alot of them were changed and added upon in the onine version ( hell i remember doing a question tht was added on oct 11th 2011) so i cant help you with regards to offline questions. But generally speaking you again need to do questions in ob/gyn.

My personal Opinion every book you use is great in giving you details about a disease/process/ whatever but its the questions that make you think and put the information in a way that you can recognize it when its presented to you in a scenario format. Like even though i knew all the details about a disease for example intestinal obstruction I wouldnt really be able to recognize it in a question until after seeing it atleast once( or more as it gives you more ways to view the way they can put that information to you).
yeah ok... so ill go ahead with obgyn questions then. i have the offline ones perhaps ill do this first then move on to online for double the practice. no harm doing some questions twice rite?
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I had already posted my results in another thread but i think i should post it here also as a way to uplift the spirits of any other procrastinator out there.

I got a 218 which is a good score but with the new damn 2 digit scoring system becomes a 79 but still as the proram coordinator told me we shouldnt look at it as a 79 we should look at it as a 218 as thats the score that they would be using to compare you with other people.
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I had already posted my results in another thread but i think i should post it here also as a way to uplift the spirits of any other procrastinator out there.

I got a 218 which is a good score but with the new damn 2 digit scoring system becomes a 79 but still as the proram coordinator told me we shouldnt look at it as a 79 we should look at it as a 218 as thats the score that they would be using to compare you with other people.
hey congrats!!! ur hard work paid...
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Thanks and to sweeten the deal i just got a fed-ex package and guess what was in it? My ECFMG CERTIFICATE! IM FREEE!!! IM FREE!!!! ,well atleast until i start my step 3 studies but still il take this sweet sweet joy for now.
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@drnpatel Thanks , I know its not a 240 but hey considering how much studying i had really done its a good score. BTW whats up on ur side? you done with ur step 2 yet?

Anyway Now im joining the rat race for residency. Wish me luck everyone.
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@drnpatel Thanks , I know its not a 240 but hey considering how much studying i had really done its a good score. BTW whats up on ur side? you done with ur step 2 yet?

Anyway Now im joining the rat race for residency. Wish me luck everyone.
I just took my CS yesterday,it went good and will take CK in April 1st week..!! Best luck for residency!!!
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congratulations.... its celebration... la la la.....

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