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my close friend had his exam yesterday
He typically said that 70% of the exam is out of Kaplan notes , MTB 2&3 , Kaplan Q bank , OUT OF UW , UWSA , NBME 467 , Clinical Mastery Series

also even concepts in step 1 was of no use except for very few questions

after all this hard work , he is 80% sure he may fail , very very very very depressed if he fail , what he can do more?


CK exam is unfair at all :
Some have exam similar to UW

OTHERS HAVE EXAM FROM HELL OR FROM OTHER PLANET AND NOT RELATED AT ALL TO THE MATERIALS WE STUDY HARD



As he said his first 2 blocks were more than nightmare
the other blocks were bet. moderate to nightmare qs


Honestly i don't know what to advice him . can we send complain to ECFMG or what?
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I don't agree with you at all.

When there is a 10,20 or 30 point drop between practice exams and the real thing, and many people are dropping from such practice exams to the point that they either barely pass or fail, I'm gonna have to say that it IS the exam and not us.

I read on reddit that US students have had a 18% failure rate with the CS exam, and how there might have been pressure on USMLE to make CK tougher on IMGs to equalize that.

We don't know the new stats, this is a brand new pool and honestly I felt the questions tested were far beyond what a 3rd year medicine student should know even JUST TO PASS. I'm not talking about getting 240s or 250s, I'm talking about passing. We might not have a case because we don't have money or power, but the exam was unfair.


That's right

before , i didn't believe ppl who say that the exam sometimes come out of all the materials we all study even UW

until yesterday after my friend experience , he said 2/3 of the exam (about 70%) come from secret place in the world , God knows where it's but not from step 1 nor step 2 ck materials which we all familiar with as uw , uwsa , kaplan, NBME ,etc.

his first 2 blocks were more than nightmare
the other blocks were bet. moderate to nightmare qs

i think ppl with +260s or 270s study from materials we have no idea about it
no one can convince me that by studing UW , MTB2&3 and few of kaplan notes only got 260 or 270, nonsense at all.

as days pass , i believe that whole usmle process is unfair at all in visa , exam levels , matching process , IN EVERYTHING BUT JUST PAYING LOT OF MONEY

we become face impossibility not difficuilty

as for me , i will begin to think of other roads after what is happening

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Seriously.... i too failed ck. Now its been month. Bought stepup to 2ck and secrets studying again but imternally im really depressed. Usmle seems like a road which i shud not have taken..

Still get chills whenevr i think of d exam. My first exam i failed after 15years..
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my close friend had his exam yesterday
He typically said that 70% of the exam is out of Kaplan notes , MTB 2&3 , Kaplan Q bank , OUT OF UW , UWSA , NBME 467 , Clinical Mastery Series

also even concepts in step 1 was of no use except for very few questions

after all this hard work , he is 80% sure he may fail , very very very very depressed if he fail , what he can do more?


CK exam is unfair at all :
Some have exam similar to UW

OTHERS HAVE EXAM FROM HELL OR FROM OTHER PLANET AND NOT RELATED AT ALL TO THE MATERIALS WE STUDY HARD



As he said his first 2 blocks were more than nightmare
the other blocks were bet. moderate to nightmare qs


Honestly i don't know what to advice him . can we send complain to ECFMG or what?
95% of people who take these exams have the exact feeling your friend is experiencing, including me in BOTH exams, but in the end my USMLE scores always came close to my practice tests and NBMEs. 250+

So wait till the score comes and then post these kind of stories. A lot of people visit these kind of forums for advice, and these kind of posts might derail them and doubt them into doing the other low yield resources for the exam.

In the end you are never are totally prepared for these exam as the information is infinite, and these tried and tested resources are the best bet for people to score rather than doing bunch of low yield resources and ignoring the main ones.
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my close friend had his exam yesterday
He typically said that 70% of the exam is out of Kaplan notes , MTB 2&3 , Kaplan Q bank , OUT OF UW , UWSA , NBME 467 , Clinical Mastery Series

also even concepts in step 1 was of no use except for very few questions

after all this hard work , he is 80% sure he may fail , very very very very depressed if he fail , what he can do more?


CK exam is unfair at all :
Some have exam similar to UW

OTHERS HAVE EXAM FROM HELL OR FROM OTHER PLANET AND NOT RELATED AT ALL TO THE MATERIALS WE STUDY HARD



As he said his first 2 blocks were more than nightmare
the other blocks were bet. moderate to nightmare qs


Honestly i don't know what to advice him . can we send complain to ECFMG or what?
Yes, wait until your friend gets their results before complaining. Even the brilliant 260s people say "I failed so bad". Feelings mean nothing. Wait patiently for 3-4 weeks, then we will know for sure.
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95% of people who take these exams have the exact feeling your friend is experiencing, including me in BOTH exams, but in the end my USMLE scores always came close to my practice tests and NBMEs. 250+

So wait till the score comes and then post these kind of stories. A lot of people visit these kind of forums for advice, and these kind of posts might derail them and doubt them into doing the other low yield resources for the exam.

In the end you are never are totally prepared for these exam as the information is infinite, and these tried and tested resources are the best bet for people to score rather than doing bunch of low yield resources and ignoring the main ones.
first my friend i write my friend story here in a post of people complaining of ck exam & its results
believe me i only write what my friend told me
it's not about low yield , it's about questions you never saw it before
He is very hard worker and very honest person
but the exam was unfair
lots or tons of vague weird questions

when he had step 1 exam , he was sure he'll pass but can't predict his score which was 245
but yesterday he was 80% or sometimes 100% sure that he'll fail
so there is big difference

nowadays , USMLE Exams become unfair
The whole process is unfair for IMGs

I'm sorry for posting my close friend story but that was truth
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Yes, wait until your friend gets their results before complaining. Even the brilliant 260s people say "I failed so bad". Feelings mean nothing. Wait patiently for 3-4 weeks, then we will know for sure.

when my friend had step 1 exam , he was sure he'll pass but can't predict his score which was 245
but yesterday he was 80% or sometimes 100% sure that he'll fail
so there is big difference

nowadays , USMLE Exams become unfair
The whole process is unfair for IMGs begining from difficulty in taking visa , unfair usmle exams , etc JUST PAYING LOTS OF MONEY

SO we have to send our complain to them or to do something
that's enough
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dont be paranoic, wait for results ... and then complain...
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i felt exam out of uworld and kaplan and Qbanks.. i can say only 30% was from the Qbanks.. rest all was new .. NBME were 250 and 245 and real exam score is 230 but still alhamdulillah passed ..
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i felt exam out of uworld and kaplan and Qbanks.. i can say only 30% was from the Qbanks.. rest all was new .. NBME were 250 and 245 and real exam score is 230 but still alhamdulillah passed ..

Congratulations buddy
Thanks a lot

Hope my friend also to pass the exam like you
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when my friend had step 1 exam , he was sure he'll pass but can't predict his score which was 245
but yesterday he was 80% or sometimes 100% sure that he'll fail
so there is big difference

nowadays , USMLE Exams become unfair
The whole process is unfair for IMGs begining from difficulty in taking visa , unfair usmle exams , etc JUST PAYING LOTS OF MONEY

SO we have to send our complain to them or to do something
that's enough
this exam is getting hard.. i scored 262 on UWSA and 238 on real deal.
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thanks yeah but everyone on this thread is right .. now after july of 2015 exam mean will definitely decrease as they have changed there Qbank of exam for step 2 .. and uworld cannot guarantee you .. its just for practise..
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this exam is getting hard.. i scored 262 on UWSA and 238 on real deal.

Congratulations my friend

May my friend pass this exam too
as his exam was very tough

Thanks a lot
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thanks yeah but everyone on this thread is right .. now after july of 2015 exam mean will definitely decrease as they have changed there Qbank of exam for step 2 .. and uworld cannot guarantee you .. its just for practise..

Obvious now that 70% of my friend exam was from their brand new Q bank
hope they'll take this into their consideration & their CURVE .
in such an exam UW was of no SIGNIFICANT importance .
ENOUGH UW OFFLINE .

HONESTLY , my friend regret for subscribing to UW ONLINE ( WASTE OF MONEY)

Thank you so much.
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weird, long stemmed vignettes, some 40 ethic questions 3 drug ads with 9 questions! 2 drug ads were having 2 questions each and the other one had 5 questions!!..longest stemmed psychiatry vignettes wasted lots of my mental energy..NBME 4= 260 (3 months before exam)..UWSA = 262 (27 days before examz)..NBME 6= 9 mistakes (took it offline)..
REAL DEAL = 247
it was the weirdest, terrifying exam in my whole life..!!
i have never seen anything like that my whole life..and i SWEAR..!
i spent 21 days in major depression as i was sure that i wud have less than 230 for sure..and only miracle could uplift my score from there which happened in reality..247 on a BIG day..was feeling very happy after a lapse of 21 days major depression..though still not scored what i deserved but i m relax somehow..!!
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weird, long stemmed vignettes, some 40 ethic questions 3 drug ads with 9 questions! 2 drug ads were having 2 questions each and the other one had 5 questions!!..longest stemmed psychiatry vignettes wasted lots of my mental energy..NBME 4= 260 (3 months before exam)..UWSA = 262 (27 days before examz)..NBME 6= 9 mistakes (took it offline)..
REAL DEAL = 247
it was the weirdest, terrifying exam in my whole life..!!
i have never seen anything like that my whole life..and i SWEAR..!
i spent 21 days in major depression as i was sure that i wud have less than 230 for sure..and only miracle could uplift my score from there which happened in reality..247 on a BIG day..was feeling very happy after a lapse of 21 days major depression..though still not scored what i deserved but i m relax somehow..!!
247 is a good score, could you please share your experience and how long you took to prepare for it?
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well, to let u know about CK preparation i need to tell u my experience..i studied 9 to 10 months with some unusual gaps of a week or 2 on and off..i studied on average of 8 to 10 hours per day..wud take out time for refreshment every day like going out with friends....then i went to mountaneous area during hot days(summer)in april 2015 until mid of september..i took my CK on 23th sep..the result came out on 14th oct..with marks: 247 just less than my target of 250..the materials i used for study in sequence are..1..kaplan videos just to orient myself for preparation then 2..kaplan books and sometimes kaplan q bank but not finish it..i wud have studied 40% of the kaplan q bank..3..starting in march 2015 uworld q bank offline..and used to make notes outta it.i gave my first self assessment when i was done only 60% of uworld mcqs form 1:score =236 on 20th april...4..i started another read of uworld q bank in july ist and completed it in later part of august..meanwhile i took NBME 4=260..i was thrilled to see my score..when i was done with 2nd read..i took out time to practice mastery series mcqs and finished with it in a couple of weeks but meanwhile i was looking into my notes plus doing 2 blocks of uworld for the third time..i took my UWORLD self assessment on 25th or 26th august with a score of 262..again i was thrilled to see my score..i took a decision to fix my exam date on 23th of sep..i was fully prepared and confident that i will hit 260 as these nbme and uworld correlate with actual exam scores according to USMLE FORUM people..BUT the actual exam date was a nightmare for me..!
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1.kaplan series
.kaplan q bank
3.uworld offline
4.CMDT
5.mastery series
6.mtb2 & mtb 3
7.lange paediatric mcqs
8.step 2 ck surgery mcqs
9.uworld step 3 mcqs offline
10..online uworld 2 months
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I scored 220 on step 2 ck. Only 2% questions were from uworld n MTB. I had a totally new question pool for my exam. I don't know how I managed to pass. Was sure that I'm gonna fail. Exam was so unfair...?
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I found this thread on top of the list and was interesting since I just got my score yesterday and was disappointed since I have a promising interview this week, not sure how that's going now with this score...
so i was wondering about the progress and updates on the issue that's presented on this thread.

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I got my score yesterday 227.. uwsa 243 nbme 4 6 7. 250 256 240
Very dissapointed but glad i passed...
Even my study partner same situation, ck score 229 uwsa 243
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I dont think its great idea to have everybody worrying about the exam. All the concepts are in Uworld and the kaplan notes. If you grasp the concepts really well you should be able to answer questions presented in all different ways. Were the questions different than Uworld? Yea, but all the concepts are basically there.
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UWSA 248 2 month before exam , NB form 7 233 1week before. real CK 229 disappointed.
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hey, joining the club here. Got an average score for Step 1 and wanted a higher score for Step 2.

Scored UWSA 260 a few days before the real exam. Thought the real exam was challenging but not impossible. Got my result back today - 238. Very disappointed
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hey, joining the club here. Got an average score for Step 1 and wanted a higher score for Step 2.

Scored UWSA 260 a few days before the real exam. Thought the real exam was challenging but not impossible. Got my result back today - 238. Very disappointed


Hey I understand what you are going through, but 238 is a decent score..
When did you take the test and how was the real exam ?
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Hey I understand what you are going through, but 238 is a decent score..
When did you take the test and how was the real exam ?
Hi etanercept89, thanks for the comforting words.

I did CK Friday 19/2/16 in San Jose. I actually thought CK was much easier than Step 1. I graduated in 2009, and already got my General Practice board certification in Australia, so I had considered my clinical knowledge to be strong (now I am not so sure).

There is were questions in CK which were very similar to the Step 1 UWorld questions (if only I remember the things I learnt for Step 1).
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Scored UWSA 260 a few days before the real exam. Thought the real exam was challenging but not impossible. Got my result back today - 238. Very disappointed
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Hi etanercept89, thanks for the comforting words.

I did CK Friday 19/2/16 in San Jose. I actually thought CK was much easier than Step 1. I graduated in 2009, and already got my General Practice board certification in Australia, so I had considered my clinical knowledge to be strong (now I am not so sure).

There is were questions in CK which were very similar to the Step 1 UWorld questions (if only I remember the things I learnt for Step 1).
Congrats on passing and achieving your other career milestones! That is bigger than anything and am sure will be good in the future for you!

What do you think happened from your uwsa and how did you prepare for CK besides uworld? When you meant CK looked similar to Step 1 uworld, what was that about? Were there more basic science questions?

What were your lower scoring areas on your ck score report?
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Congrats on passing and achieving your other career milestones! That is bigger than anything and am sure will be good in the future for you!

What do you think happened from your uwsa and how did you prepare for CK besides uworld? When you meant CK looked similar to Step 1 uworld, what was that about? Were there more basic science questions?

What were your lower scoring areas on your ck score report?
Thanks canica.

I only used UWorld, maybe that's the pit fall. There were few questions about the fundamental science that comes straight from First Aid Step 1. I had a 5 month gap between Step 1 and Step 2, and was long enough for me to forget alot of basic concepts.
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Congrats on passing and achieving your other career milestones! That is bigger than anything and am sure will be good in the future for you!

What do you think happened from your uwsa and how did you prepare for CK besides uworld? When you meant CK looked similar to Step 1 uworld, what was that about? Were there more basic science questions?

What were your lower scoring areas on your ck score report?
Her Canica, sorry couldn't PM you because I haven't got enough replies on the forum to access the PM.

I took the exam 4 weeks ago and don't remember which questions were asked. I actually studied with UWorld Step 2 CK and FA Step 1 + personal notes I made whilst studying Step 1. I recall there were a few, maybe 2 or 3 questions, that were almost identical to Step 1 UWorld, I don't remember what there were exactly, they were asking about basic sciences.
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Hello guys,
I have this problem with the Step2Ck results after they changed the question pool.
i totally thing there must be something wrong with the new question pool. we are four friends , and four out of four had this disasterous situation,
1- one was completely ready to apply for this match but got her CK score and has failed it,
her UWSA: 245, step 1 score: 227, CS passed first attempt with high performance, research assistant in GW, and 6 month of US externship with strong LORs from great faculty members!!
--Myself: CK: 211,UWSA :244,
-othere one CK: 217,UWSA :248,
-- another one: UWSA :252, CK: 219.
there should be something wrong, and guys we put our life on this!! Lets do something about it. If any one feel the same thong please put your comment here, then we figure out something and contact ECFMG with proof. Thank you.
A believe in conspiracy theory (using some common sense) not because of excuse, rationalization or swayed by rumors.

Have you ever wonder why 95% of the people in this world are employee and work their as off for the pathetic paycheck - you know who you are and who your parents are. And why some 5% can be billionaires and live a life, have access to resources that you don't even know you don't know? well if you still think it doesnt exist you deserve to be poor and a slave of the "system"

This type of unfairless occur in any industry and every walks of life. Because it does not affect us directly, hence we don't seek to decipher.

I believe there is more monetary incentive to filter IMG at STEP 2 CK/CS rather than STEP 1 hence you dont see that big of a disparity in STEP 1 for obvious reason
1. they can make us constinue to clinicals and enslave us in county hospitals and pay them more $ for exams, for expenses (boost economy) and giving us the false hope that we will be treated fairly when there is obvious algorithms that NOBODY knows, but cannot rule out the potential of unfair test (which is highly likely considering the fact that IMG more hard working and many AMG are dumber than IMG or just lazy and drinking beer all day) It is obvious and has been in the news that IMG are taking many AMG spots away for residency. As the leader of the country or medical field, dont you need to answer to your people ie AMG? Obviously, best way is to weed them out. So lets make the test harder so IMG will fail more. But sorry Many AMG are too dumb for the test, so lets create different version of the test (esp during months when IMG take them). Ever wondered why applying for STEPS, those folks ask so many questions like where you born and your medical school? come on man, stop being so perfectionist. Life is not fair and you need to figure out whats fair for you. I am not advocating violence, though sometimes the despicable power out their deserve some karma, I still believe there is nothing we can do. But they will suffer unfairness in others regards (ie divorce, cancer, death of family etc) we dont need to curse them, we dont need to hate them, let the folks up there take care of them.

meanwhile a country need to keep its citizens happy. They can do whatever they want to fail us if they like. NOONE knows the algorithm. NOONE knows anything for christ sake. Only the computer and the idiot on the other end knows. but use your common sense on what a leader will do when they are faced with difficult situations? they have to do sth. If it is not fair, racist or uncharismatic, they do it behind your back. So if you write in to appeal, you are being dumb too, because you will only get the same result (again by common sense). A good way to test your common sense is to apply common sense to test the theory in both ways. because 2 wrong make one right. ie they are doing it deliberatley, obvious they wont change your score. They are doing it delberately, obviously the waanna fail you. Or rather push you to primary care since your score is crappy (made by them). Well you know how much you know. you know who you are. You can just be an MD with good knowledge or good do sth else with your MD which might be more successful, hire those idiots and enslave them. When you are a boss, you can also do things behind your emplyee that they will never know (except the smart ones who thinks and choose not to be the 95% poor folks getting into debt)

my stats Step 1 243
step 2 fail 1st, 2nd 217 , cs 1st pass. All UWSA and NBME were 240s and 250s. There is definitely difference in test, just check with your friends to verify you idiots, stop guessing, check the facts and use common sense since you will never have evidence (because they dont share with you to use against them) you think they are dumb? They themselves said you cannot compare your STEP 2 CK with other CK adminstrations ie they already admit your exam is different. And to say its equal is BS and naive and giving you a free ride to being a puppet that they can control. These country need norms people who conform to norm and dare not use their common sense to think and just waiting yearning for people to give you things. typically wont go far. So conclusion is = no need to find out or argue with them, the fact is obvious, use common sense and find a way to go around it. I have friends who falsify their place of birth just for the exam. Well do whatever you need to do. Chaos is created from inequality, and the person who creates it deserve the chaos and karma like bombs and **** as example. Not advocating anything, it just life, which is unfair, so find out whats fair for YOU.

I am trying again to apply nxt yr. If i dont (highly likely wont match if this post is read by them or some **** suckers send them this link) I may be doom. good thing i have a good online business in Asia that can feed me so i dont have to deal with this nonsense) so peace out guys Study hard and if you did your best, screw them. Who are they to judge your ability? those chicken loser behind the computer? hell no.

if you dont agree and the truth is that, i wish it happens to you so you will see it. if its otherwise, we including me will get karma.

ok. stdy advice
1 UW obviously
2 Kaplan lecture + video esp for OBGYN and PEDS
3. Surgery just do onlinemeded
4. Step up to medicine if you donno **** about a topic.

well they may start looking online and see what we use for study, but the chance of this is low because the AMG are also using these resources and steering away may mess the AMG up too. AMG are innocent, they are just lucky because they are citizens. so we should not direct anything at them.
Its the folks up there.

Uptodate only for confusing manageent algorithsm.

good luck and all the best in everything
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A believe in conspiracy theory (using some common sense) not because of excuse, rationalization or swayed by rumors.

Have you ever wonder why 95% of the people in this world are employee and work their as off for the pathetic paycheck - you know who you are and who your parents are. And why some 5% can be billionaires and live a life, have access to resources that you don't even know you don't know? well if you still think it doesnt exist you deserve to be poor and a slave of the "system"

This type of unfairless occur in any industry and every walks of life. Because it does not affect us directly, hence we don't seek to decipher.

I believe there is more monetary incentive to filter IMG at STEP 2 CK/CS rather than STEP 1 hence you dont see that big of a disparity in STEP 1 for obvious reason
1. they can make us constinue to clinicals and enslave us in county hospitals and pay them more $ for exams, for expenses (boost economy) and giving us the false hope that we will be treated fairly when there is obvious algorithms that NOBODY knows, but cannot rule out the potential of unfair test (which is highly likely considering the fact that IMG more hard working and many AMG are dumber than IMG or just lazy and drinking beer all day) It is obvious and has been in the news that IMG are taking many AMG spots away for residency. As the leader of the country or medical field, dont you need to answer to your people ie AMG? Obviously, best way is to weed them out. So lets make the test harder so IMG will fail more. But sorry Many AMG are too dumb for the test, so lets create different version of the test (esp during months when IMG take them). Ever wondered why applying for STEPS, those folks ask so many questions like where you born and your medical school? come on man, stop being so perfectionist. Life is not fair and you need to figure out whats fair for you. I am not advocating violence, though sometimes the despicable power out their deserve some karma, I still believe there is nothing we can do. But they will suffer unfairness in others regards (ie divorce, cancer, death of family etc) we dont need to curse them, we dont need to hate them, let the folks up there take care of them.

meanwhile a country need to keep its citizens happy. They can do whatever they want to fail us if they like. NOONE knows the algorithm. NOONE knows anything for christ sake. Only the computer and the idiot on the other end knows. but use your common sense on what a leader will do when they are faced with difficult situations? they have to do sth. If it is not fair, racist or uncharismatic, they do it behind your back. So if you write in to appeal, you are being dumb too, because you will only get the same result (again by common sense). A good way to test your common sense is to apply common sense to test the theory in both ways. because 2 wrong make one right. ie they are doing it deliberatley, obvious they wont change your score. They are doing it delberately, obviously the waanna fail you. Or rather push you to primary care since your score is crappy (made by them). Well you know how much you know. you know who you are. You can just be an MD with good knowledge or good do sth else with your MD which might be more successful, hire those idiots and enslave them. When you are a boss, you can also do things behind your emplyee that they will never know (except the smart ones who thinks and choose not to be the 95% poor folks getting into debt)

my stats Step 1 243
step 2 fail 1st, 2nd 217 , cs 1st pass. All UWSA and NBME were 240s and 250s. There is definitely difference in test, just check with your friends to verify you idiots, stop guessing, check the facts and use common sense since you will never have evidence (because they dont share with you to use against them) you think they are dumb? They themselves said you cannot compare your STEP 2 CK with other CK adminstrations ie they already admit your exam is different. And to say its equal is BS and naive and giving you a free ride to being a puppet that they can control. These country need norms people who conform to norm and dare not use their common sense to think and just waiting yearning for people to give you things. typically wont go far. So conclusion is = no need to find out or argue with them, the fact is obvious, use common sense and find a way to go around it. I have friends who falsify their place of birth just for the exam. Well do whatever you need to do. Chaos is created from inequality, and the person who creates it deserve the chaos and karma like bombs and **** as example. Not advocating anything, it just life, which is unfair, so find out whats fair for YOU.

I am trying again to apply nxt yr. If i dont (highly likely wont match if this post is read by them or some **** suckers send them this link) I may be doom. good thing i have a good online business in Asia that can feed me so i dont have to deal with this nonsense) so peace out guys Study hard and if you did your best, screw them. Who are they to judge your ability? those chicken loser behind the computer? hell no.

if you dont agree and the truth is that, i wish it happens to you so you will see it. if its otherwise, we including me will get karma.

ok. stdy advice
1 UW obviously
2 Kaplan lecture + video esp for OBGYN and PEDS
3. Surgery just do onlinemeded
4. Step up to medicine if you donno **** about a topic.

well they may start looking online and see what we use for study, but the chance of this is low because the AMG are also using these resources and steering away may mess the AMG up too. AMG are innocent, they are just lucky because they are citizens. so we should not direct anything at them.
Its the folks up there.

Uptodate only for confusing manageent algorithsm.

good luck and all the best in everything
Yeah, I toally agree with you. Even i wondered while filling out forms, why they were asking so much info and really thought that all info can be used for filtering us out.
Nobody knows how they score these exams, we are just pretty clueless. Showing to world that they want img docs but in reality it is just another income source for them.
Why they changed question pool so drastically that none of my step 2 ck questions were from kaplan, uworld. i barely knew 2-5 percent of exam question.
But managed to get 220.
Now got stuck with visa issue. It seems u need to apply multiple times to get a tourist visa. All my money is going in drain. Coool.
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The UWSA was pretty accurate for me.
UWSA: 245
UW cumulative (1st pass): 71%
Step 2 CK: 246
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95% of people who take these exams have the exact feeling your friend is experiencing, including me in BOTH exams, but in the end my USMLE scores always came close to my practice tests and NBMEs. 250+

So wait till the score comes and then post these kind of stories. A lot of people visit these kind of forums for advice, and these kind of posts might derail them and doubt them into doing the other low yield resources for the exam.

In the end you are never are totally prepared for these exam as the information is infinite, and these tried and tested resources are the best bet for people to score rather than doing bunch of low yield resources and ignoring the main ones.
pretty much explains what happened to me on step 2ck. i came out of the exam feeling nauseous, and certain that i got a lot of questions wrong. but i also knew that i got plenty right, and my final score (as predicted by uwsa) was >250.

you simply cannot prepare for everything, and being critical is very important for effective preparation. unfortunately, a lot of bad advice gets pushed around on these forums, so you have to be able to decide for yourself what is worth the time and what isnt.
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Similar experience with Step 3 . My score was 20 point less. I did U world , Rx Q bank + MTB + medquest videos + medquest IM videos . I also tutored for step 2 ck ... Yet. I missed the passing score by 2 points , which is an absolute shock... may be there are not enough residency spots and they are are targeting IMGs.....
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I seem to have had the opposite experience. My UWSA was my lowest practice scores at 224, about 4 days prior to CK. My NBMES were 229, 233, 237.

My actual CK exam was MUCH harder than any of my practice exams. I ended up with a 241 on the real CK. I'm thinking the curving is much different based on the level of difficulty of exams. I was pleasantly surprised.
mine too.. got 234 in uwsa, 4 days before exam and got 246 in main.. but my nbme6 was a promising 2254.
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