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First of all, hello to everyone on the forum. Its been extremely motivating and informative seeing everyones success stories and study guides and plans it has truly helped immensely.

Unfortunately, I received the news yesterday (wed the 20th 2016) that I did not pass step 2ck.

I did the exam on Dec. 31st 2015.

I did the Live Kaplan course, followed by 8 months of my own studying. I reviewed my kaplan notes and did 2 blocks of UWORLD daily averaging a 60% on my first pass of the entire QBANK.
after I reset my QBANK, I did all the questions over again, this time increasing my score to an 73%
And, again a 3rd time averaging 85%...so in total I completed UWORLD a total of 3 times doing 2 tests timed daily.
in the end I just kept doing 2-3 mixed & timed tests until my exam.

During this time, I completed all 4 NBME exams (paid for online) barely passing them with scores of: 210, 215, 220, 212 and reviewing the material I didn't do well on in MTB2 & 3

My study material included: MTB2 & 3, the high yield kaplan videos (which is just MTB2 being read to you), Conrads Comprehensive Clinical Cases videos, TIKI TAKA notes (which are amazing). I also read USMLE 2CK secrets as relaxed review material, the conrad flash cards and the high yield step 2 algorithm videos as well as my kaplan notes, and my UWORLD notes which I would review daily.

in the last couple of weeks before my exam I completed the UWSA exam that is supposedly the closest predictor to the real score, and scored a 221 on it (not bad and honestly I was fine with that given that with +/- 10 points would still get me a passing score.
I did the free 150 usmle questions and scored an 85%

on the real exam I got a 194!

I then look at my performance graph and realize that every subject is lined up straight in the middle of the graph on the dark bar area...the bars for each subject where narrow (meaning that I was consistent with my answers) in all of the internal medicine subjects (which is the area most heavily tested on the exam).
out of all the IM subjects my "RENAL" portion of the exam was low...only renal
my other subject which was towards the left was "Surgery" and "OB/GYN" other than that, all the bars are straight up and down and narrow...

the most curious thing is that the bar for IM (in general) was also toward the left...not even touching the middle graph!!! how could this be? all my IM subjects were perfectly straight down the middle and narrow?!?!?
the only thing I can think of is that RENAL was either heavily tested or weighed a ridiculous amount all by itself!

now that, does not seem like an evenly distributed exam to me.
how is it that I managed to get mostly all of my subjects in the in the middle of the performance graph and still fail? and not early fail...fail with a 194 for crying out loud.

was it the curve? was it only based off of renal? was it because not only did I take it at the end of the month, but also at the end of the year?

I mean, I was not looking for a spectacular score like a 240+, nor was I expecting one. but I did prepare enough for a passing score of around a 210-220.
my # of questions per block looked like this: 44-44-44-44-44-44-38-42
I could have done better in OBGYN and I really did poorly in Surgery, but those subjects are not supposed to be weighed as much as IM is.
IM was low too but, when breaking down all the IM subjects I was in the passing range with all of them except for renal.

how should I fight this? is this even legit to do? a Medical Board exam that only is based off of RENAL? WTH???

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i got the same score as you did.. took my test on dec 23

how are you planning to prepare for the next attempt?
any suggestions/support is appreciated
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Im going to keep doing UWORLD once I reset it (3 blocks a day) in timed mode. emphasizing on the entire explanations including the wrong answers and especially the answers that were picked with close %'s. that way i can differentiate between the similarities in the answers and what to look out for more carefully. after I finish the bank, ill do the same thing over again but this time with incorrects only.

Im doing poorly in renal, surgery and OB/GYN, so ill do questions just in those areas I guess to really focus on my weaknesses for my 3rd exam possibbly, other than that it will mostly be in "timed/new questions" mode

ill do an old NBME starting from the oldest I did and see whats up...I think this time around I will not take the exam unless I'm scoring at least a 240 on my assessments...anything less gives too much variability in my real exam score...

remember I averaged a 215 on all NBME's and a 221 on the UWSA exam and scored a 194 on the real exam....thats ~25 point margin of error...too much...so if I shoot for a 240 on my assessments, that way i will have a peace of mind that i will at least pass with a 210 (hopefully)

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I took my exam on dec 24. Scored 220. My exam had totally new questions which none of the resources i used (uworld,kaplan,mtb) ever mentioned. In every block and with every question i kept wonderin what the hell was going on.... Nothing that i studied for was asked in my exam. Was wild guessing for my whole exam. Did any of u hav similar experience??? Or is it just me in this whole forun who got the worst exam questions ever..
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Hi all,

I can help please refer to my post tutor for step 2. Thanks
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I took my exam on dec 24. Scored 220. My exam had totally new questions which none of the resources i used (uworld,kaplan,mtb) ever mentioned. In every block and with every question i kept wonderin what the hell was going on.... Nothing that i studied for was asked in my exam. Was wild guessing for my whole exam. Did any of u hav similar experience??? Or is it just me in this whole forun who got the worst exam questions ever..
same situation here...It felt like all new questions.
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I did the free 150 usmle questions and scored an 85%



I took my exam on November 28 - 10 days before exam took this practice 150 FRED questions in the test center and got 78% in total, I cried, thought I'm gonna postpone the exam - 3 days before exam my online NBME 7 was 221 and I passed the exam with 232. I didn't have MTB3 or watched all Kaplan lectures. I did UW world twice, in general about 30% of what you did - I'm in shock with your score too.

I'm truly sorry to hear that I even can't imagine how hard it could be to pick yourself up and moving forward. I wish you stay strong and finish it. I know it is easy to say but you can do it. Keep moving forward.
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I took my exam on November 28 - 10 days before exam took this practice 150 FRED questions in the test center and got 78% in total, I cried, thought I'm gonna postpone the exam - 3 days before exam my online NBME 7 was 221 and I passed the exam with 232. I didn't have MTB3 or watched all Kaplan lectures. I did UW world twice, in general about 30% of what you did - I'm in shock with your score too.

I'm truly sorry to hear that I even can't imagine how hard it could be to pick yourself up and moving forward. I wish you stay strong and finish it. I know it is easy to say but you can do it. Keep moving forward.
Thank you and congratulations with your score! Right now I have hatred and vengeance as my alai as motivation...Im doing 3 UWORLD blocks of 44 (unused since I just reset it) and reading up on the subjects I did poorly on MTB3. but really focussing on UWORLD and their explanations for everything. time consuming? yes...but I can't and will not quit.
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Because you got a tough question pool thats why your score was low???. I have heard from other people who score 240+ that their exam felt like uworld n mtb based. This was not the scenario with us. So it s just a luck factor that some people get easy ques based on uworld and other get tough question pool which even makes gettin a passing score a highly strugglin task.. I dont know if this is true but i personally feel this exam is totally biased..
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Because you got a tough question pool thats why your score was low???. I have heard from other people who score 240+ that their exam felt like uworld n mtb based. This was not the scenario with us. So it s just a luck factor that some people get easy ques based on uworld and other get tough question pool which even makes gettin a passing score a highly strugglin task.. I dont know if this is true but i personally feel this exam is totally biased..
I'd like to share my two cents on the matter:

Took my exam in December. It felt impossible. It felt nothing like UW or MTB. Nothing! It was agonizing and painful. I felt like I was throwing out random answers for most of the questions because I had no idea how to tackle it, and of course no time to re-read or to even think! My NBMEs were in the 230s, but after test day I was sure I did awful. I was prepared not to pass. But then my score came back: 250+. I'm not boasting, because I don't feel like I deserve that score based on my many gaps and lapses in knowledge. But I am just saying that the correlation between the UW and NBME vs the actual exam has dropped. The new exam questions are so different now that UW and NBME have a less predictable correlation. So our scores are really unpredictable, especially for IMGs who are more likely to have gaps in our knowledge (by that I mean IMGs learn different things than AMGs, not necessary less things).

I think people's OPINIONS about the questions may vary more than the questions themselves. What I mean is that even if two people had the same questions on the exam, one person would say "It was exactly like UW" and another person would say "It was nothing like UW". It's not that anyone is right or wrong, it's just how we feel about it.

But I do stand by the statistics and math of the actual exam. There isn't an "easy version" and a "hard version". All questions are randomly drawn from a giant question bank, and all questions have been used for many months now to build up a normal distribution with accurate statistics. That's why mid-last-year, it took people 3 months to get results, because they waited until ~5,000-10,000 AMGs had taken the exam so they'd have enough scores to have a solid confidence interval.
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I'd like to share my two cents on the matter:

Took my exam in December. It felt impossible. It felt nothing like UW or MTB. Nothing! It was agonizing and painful. I felt like I was throwing out random answers for most of the questions because I had no idea how to tackle it, and of course no time to re-read or to even think! My NBMEs were in the 230s, but after test day I was sure I did awful. I was prepared not to pass. But then my score came back: 250+. I'm not boasting, because I don't feel like I deserve that score based on my many gaps and lapses in knowledge. But I am just saying that the correlation between the UW and NBME vs the actual exam has dropped. The new exam questions are so different now that UW and NBME have a less predictable correlation. So our scores are really unpredictable, especially for IMGs who are more likely to have gaps in our knowledge (by that I mean IMGs learn different things than AMGs, not necessary less things).

I think people's OPINIONS about the questions may vary more than the questions themselves. What I mean is that even if two people had the same questions on the exam, one person would say "It was exactly like UW" and another person would say "It was nothing like UW". It's not that anyone is right or wrong, it's just how we feel about it.

But I do stand by the statistics and math of the actual exam. There isn't an "easy version" and a "hard version". All questions are randomly drawn from a giant question bank, and all questions have been used for many months now to build up a normal distribution with accurate statistics. That's why mid-last-year, it took people 3 months to get results, because they waited until ~5,000-10,000 AMGs had taken the exam so they'd have enough scores to have a solid confidence interval.
Yeah, i agree with you on the fact that exam and scores are totally unpredictable. I did uworld 4 times. I read in detail all the explaination part. But in exam questions were all new. By new i mean it had no resemblance to uworld questions or it s detailed explaination and concept part.Question formatting was like uworld though not like nbmes. I guess it is my bad luck that i got tough questions from their exam pool..i agree that their pool had all randomly drawn questions, all i wanna say is for all of my questions i was completwly blank.. Just luckfactor works a lot in these kinda exams i guess. I really wanna know how much those who scored 250+ would have got if they had same exam questions like me.
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***UPDATE 1***

I have been doing 3 blocks of 44 in UWORLD (unused questions...since I reset the bank) and in timed mode. I have been reading the questions carefully from the top-down (no more of this, read the last line thing and glance around for clues) and I have noticed that Im finishing earlier with sometimes up to 5-8min to spare!

Im also grasping a better idea of whats going on and what they are getting at in a question quicker which gives me more time to come up with differentials much faster.

Also, I am reading everything in the explanations (wrong answers, right answers, graphs, charts, pictures and the conclusion as well as taking note in my own words on how to differentiate between 2 or more answers...so I hopefully don't get mixed up un the future. it is a lot more time consuming...takes me sometimes up to 2hrs to review one block...so thats 3hrs for 3 blocks and 6 hours of reviewing them...9hrs if my stamina is good that day.

I am however noticing that I need improvement in a couple of subjects when I see my cumulative performance breakdown of subjects tested.

What do you recommend in this instance? should I do a 4th block just dedicated to the subjects I'm weak in? or dedicate the 3rd block to this? (when I say I need improvement, it means that Im scoring below a 65% on a particular subject).

so far its been a week since I started UWORLD all over again and I have been able to complete a little over 900 questions so far.

my new average is a 79% but honestly thats not what Im worried about...its the 5 subjects I'm scoring 40-64% that I'm worried about...and when I look back on my previous assessments and actual exam, it correlates to what I was weak in then as well.

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***UPDATE 2***

Finished all of Uworld & reviewed all of its content...I feel like I have gotten a huge grasp on concepts throughout my review. I have been focusing on all the answer choices (wrong & right) and have payed even more attention to the ones which the % answered was 50/50 or evenly distributed among the choices.

as stated in a previous post, I will begin to take tests based on the ones I got wrong, re-review them and I will post again here to see my progress...

as for now, here are my averages...not that they mean anything because there is an obvious bias in the % due to the fact that this is my 4th time around and I'm sure the % there are also based on the many times other people have re taken the same questions...but, never the less here they are...maybe someone can shine some insight as to where to focus my attention.

and if anyone was wondering again, all the tests were taken as unused random and timed 3 blocks of 44 a day all with ~5min. (avg.) to spare on time management

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same situation here...It felt like all new questions.
Same thing! Took it on Dec 15th in Argentina. Did Kaplan vids and LN and 1 mo UWorld AVG 82%. Felt questions were weird, many statistics/epidem q i have no clue what they were asking (and i know statistics), many "most common pathogen for this disease" "pathophysiologic mechanism of this entity" which i consider step 1 Qs.

Got a 234, aimed for more than that really, but well...

Keep it up and never let yourself be brought down by this type of things. You will prevail.
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I'd like to share my two cents on the matter:

Took my exam in December. It felt impossible. It felt nothing like UW or MTB. Nothing! It was agonizing and painful. I felt like I was throwing out random answers for most of the questions because I had no idea how to tackle it, and of course no time to re-read or to even think! My NBMEs were in the 230s, but after test day I was sure I did awful. I was prepared not to pass. But then my score came back: 250+. I'm not boasting, because I don't feel like I deserve that score based on my many gaps and lapses in knowledge. But I am just saying that the correlation between the UW and NBME vs the actual exam has dropped. The new exam questions are so different now that UW and NBME have a less predictable correlation. So our scores are really unpredictable, especially for IMGs who are more likely to have gaps in our knowledge (by that I mean IMGs learn different things than AMGs, not necessary less things).

I think people's OPINIONS about the questions may vary more than the questions themselves. What I mean is that even if two people had the same questions on the exam, one person would say "It was exactly like UW" and another person would say "It was nothing like UW". It's not that anyone is right or wrong, it's just how we feel about it.

But I do stand by the statistics and math of the actual exam. There isn't an "easy version" and a "hard version". All questions are randomly drawn from a giant question bank, and all questions have been used for many months now to build up a normal distribution with accurate statistics. That's why mid-last-year, it took people 3 months to get results, because they waited until ~5,000-10,000 AMGs had taken the exam so they'd have enough scores to have a solid confidence interval.
I heard that MTB isn't as useful for the exam like everybody says but everybody uses it
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I heard that MTB isn't as useful for the exam like everybody says but everybody uses it
Ive learned so much more just reading UWORLD reading all of it...all the explanations, all the wrong answers, all the tables and graphs...it takes quadruple the time to review a test, but what can I say...its what you have to do...ultimately, if reading UWORLD still leaves you confused on a certain subject matter, then look it up somewhere that makes it easier to comprehend...but once you comprehend it, go back to the UWORLD explanation and engrave those facts in your head...make up a variety of questions that could be possibly asked for each individual response and thats about the only useful tool.

try a block of 44 unused & timed...forget what you scored (because its irrelevant anyway) and just focus on the explanations...after your done, you basically just read an equivalent of over 50 pages worth of pertinent review material for the actual exam...Take it from me who actually took the exam and knows what kind of questions they ask...its not going to be the same as UWORLD, but the information needed to comprehend what you are being asked and the answers to what you are being asked is all right in front of you deep within the lines of UWORLD text...

the exam will obviously not say trigger words like "Auer Rods"...they will describe what an Auer Rod is: "atypical linear condensations of cytoplasmic granules"...
if you see what they did there, they're giving you insight into the exam by describing something that only someone with profound knowledge of the subject and with keen reading and comprehension skills will easily pick up on (especially with the clock ticking and everything at stake!) but, now that you already know more or less how they try to ask you something by burying clues in an ocean of words, you will see how reading MTB in any form is just not good enough.

if you look at it that way, there really is no other reason ( or time) to use any other form of review.
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Ive learned so much more just reading UWORLD reading all of it...all the explanations, all the wrong answers, all the tables and graphs...it takes quadruple the time to review a test, but what can I say...its what you have to do...ultimately, if reading UWORLD still leaves you confused on a certain subject matter, then look it up somewhere that makes it easier to comprehend...but once you comprehend it, go back to the UWORLD explanation and engrave those facts in your head...make up a variety of questions that could be possibly asked for each individual response and thats about the only useful tool.

try a block of 44 unused & timed...forget what you scored (because its irrelevant anyway) and just focus on the explanations...after your done, you basically just read an equivalent of over 50 pages worth of pertinent review material for the actual exam...Take it from me who actually took the exam and knows what kind of questions they ask...its not going to be the same as UWORLD, but the information needed to comprehend what you are being asked and the answers to what you are being asked is all right in front of you deep within the lines of UWORLD text...

the exam will obviously not say trigger words like "Auer Rods"...they will describe what an Auer Rod is: "atypical linear condensations of cytoplasmic granules"...
if you see what they did there, they're giving you insight into the exam by describing something that only someone with profound knowledge of the subject and with keen reading and comprehension skills will easily pick up on (especially with the clock ticking and everything at stake!) but, now that you already know more or less how they try to ask you something by burying clues in an ocean of words, you will see how reading MTB in any form is just not good enough.

if you look at it that way, there really is no other reason ( or time) to use any other form of review.
Thanks for your impression! I didn't notice you actually used the MTB's beforehand to yield not the best outcome that you were expecting.

I don't know why everybody supports those books but anyways.

Have you tried a new asssessment nbme? How will you rule out bias from those assessments or even uwsa being that you have already done those and may answer the same questions right because of just memory exposure?

I noticed that after going through uworld, I'm not answering the question as aggressively because I may have remembered the answer choice already from getting it wrong. I got what you mean by how uworld can be a text replacement but my friends told me on ck, there's still a lot of things not covered in uworld that are still fair game.

I'm not sure what's not covered in uworld and hence, why I thought doing another question bank would be helpful to cover those missing parts if any.
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Thanks for your impression! I didn't notice you actually used the MTB's beforehand to yield not the best outcome that you were expecting.

I don't know why everybody supports those books but anyways.

Have you tried a new asssessment nbme? How will you rule out bias from those assessments or even uwsa being that you have already done those and may answer the same questions right because of just memory exposure?

I noticed that after going through uworld, I'm not answering the question as aggressively because I may have remembered the answer choice already from getting it wrong. I got what you mean by how uworld can be a text replacement but my friends told me on ck, there's still a lot of things not covered in uworld that are still fair game.

I'm not sure what's not covered in uworld and hence, why I thought doing another question bank would be helpful to cover those missing parts if any.
well, anything really is fair game but as far as what came out in my exam, questions may have sounded like Ive never heard of them before. But like I stated earlier, If I would have picked up on what they were really asking me with faster (not better) reading & comprehension skills along with coming up with quick differentials I would have passed, I based too much on what simulated exams had to say about me, but even though I did well on them, I never felt sure of myself on lets say more than half the questions per block. maybe I was juggling between time constraints and other psychologically stressful scenarios all working together to keep me sweating throughout the exam...

with that being said, if you want to be 100% on what your studying the best bet would be probably to pair UW with "up to date" if you could, as well as recently published journals on new guidelines in preventive medicine.

I would study the hell out of how to formulate and answer the toughest statistics scenarios because lets face it...if your asked to calculate for PPV, NPV, sensitivity or specificity then I would thank the lord for it! because more than likely you will be asked harder questions like Number needed to treat or harm, Odds ratio and absolute risk reductions...you know...the bread and butter of stressing the hell out...lol

Its a good point about how I will evaluate my performance...my situation sucks because of this. but Im just going to have to do the first NBME (oldest one I took first) and go from there. the only "real" way in my case is just to be sure of my self...and at this point only when I can surely and confidently say "this is the correct answer" and the other choices are wrong because of so and so...as well as being able to distinguish the minute differences in similar syndromes and being able to recite dz algorithms at a moments notice without second guessing myself...is about the only way I can absolutely imagine I could be ready for it.
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well, anything really is fair game but as far as what came out in my exam, questions may have sounded like Ive never heard of them before. But like I stated earlier, If I would have picked up on what they were really asking me with faster (not better) reading & comprehension skills along with coming up with quick differentials I would have passed, I based too much on what simulated exams had to say about me, but even though I did well on them, I never felt sure of myself on lets say more than half the questions per block. maybe I was juggling between time constraints and other psychologically stressful scenarios all working together to keep me sweating throughout the exam...

with that being said, if you want to be 100% on what your studying the best bet would be probably to pair UW with "up to date" if you could, as well as recently published journals on new guidelines in preventive medicine.

I would study the hell out of how to formulate and answer the toughest statistics scenarios because lets face it...if your asked to calculate for PPV, NPV, sensitivity or specificity then I would thank the lord for it! because more than likely you will be asked harder questions like Number needed to treat or harm, Odds ratio and absolute risk reductions...you know...the bread and butter of stressing the hell out...lol

Its a good point about how I will evaluate my performance...my situation sucks because of this. but Im just going to have to do the first NBME (oldest one I took first) and go from there. the only "real" way in my case is just to be sure of my self...and at this point only when I can surely and confidently say "this is the correct answer" and the other choices are wrong because of so and so...as well as being able to distinguish the minute differences in similar syndromes and being able to recite dz algorithms at a moments notice without second guessing myself...is about the only way I can absolutely imagine I could be ready for it.
Thanks for sharing those ideas! I like that question reading strategy too! I might sign up for the biostats review because I heard those are easy points to not miss and there aren't so many biostats questions in uworld from what I've seen.

After you've done all this, do you think you'll ever go back to MTB or now realized that this will add to more contradictory confusion? That was my issue when I started using MTB 2ck. There were clearly different mindsets from what uworld said and MTB wrote. Scratching and correcting things in MTB seems like it would be such a headache.

I have up to date and tried reading the summaries and recommendations on a few topics. Have you tried reading that for each question?
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I am so sorry. I would do a score recheck. I mean who cares its only $75 compared to paying 700$ again.

Seriously im sorry to hear. I wish you all the best hereon-out.
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Hey, same here. Got 260 on UWSA and trending at 80% on uworld questions and only 238 on the real exam. Maybe they recently changed the exam.
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Scary to here all these
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Hi,
Thank you for sharing your experience.It must be so difficult.The way you are trying to fight back is commendable.Just keep working on your prep...and don't look back.

When I took step 1,I scored 16 points less than nbme taken 3 days before step 1 exam. And though I passed,I know such things happen to some people.

You are helping others learn by sharing your experience.Thanks again.Wish you good luck on your prep.
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Thanks for the support guys...well, after really trying to go over as much stuff as I could, I finally got a decent score on one of my NBME's! (NBME 7)

Now, on to re-studyig the subjects I need improvement on with UWORLD and then next week I'll try the UWSA and see whats up

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Thanks for the support guys...well, after really trying to go over as much stuff as I could, I finally got a decent score on one of my NBME's! (NBME 7)

Now, on to re-studyig the subjects I need improvement on with UWORLD and then next week I'll try the UWSA and see whats up


Nice!! If you don't mind, what did you do since your previous score to bring up your nbme score?
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I just studied UWORLD...
I reset my bank, and did it over again...timed and new questions daily. I did 3 blocks a day and I reviewed all the materials in the explanations (right and wrong answers) as well as all the diagrams, pictures tables and charts given. and, I would also pay special attention to the ones That had similar percentages when chosen. I wrote down key differences in similar presenting cases and memorized those differences (at least tried to) it's a lot.

Doing it this way, really doesn't give you that much time to spend on doing anything else in your day...takes about 3-3.5 hours for the tests...and around 3hrs per block to "really review" the material that was tested just by intricately reading all of what is presented to you...there's your 11-12 hour + study day...mix that in with your daily routines of eating and exercising and your done. There's no time for other review sources.

I would dedicate 1hr at the beginning of each day and review your UWORLD notes and that's about it! Praying, having faith and perseverance is all...keeping at it...lets see what happens next
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Thanks for the support guys...well, after really trying to go over as much stuff as I could, I finally got a decent score on one of my NBME's! (NBME 7)

Now, on to re-studyig the subjects I need improvement on with UWORLD and then next week I'll try the UWSA and see whats up

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I just studied UWORLD...
I reset my bank, and did it over again...timed and new questions daily. I did 3 blocks a day and I reviewed all the materials in the explanations (right and wrong answers) as well as all the diagrams, pictures tables and charts given. and, I would also pay special attention to the ones That had similar percentages when chosen. I wrote down key differences in similar presenting cases and memorized those differences (at least tried to) it's a lot.

Doing it this way, really doesn't give you that much time to spend on doing anything else in your day...takes about 3-3.5 hours for the tests...and around 3hrs per block to "really review" the material that was tested just by intricately reading all of what is presented to you...there's your 11-12 hour + study day...mix that in with your daily routines of eating and exercising and your done. There's no time for other review sources.

I would dedicate 1hr at the beginning of each day and review your UWORLD notes and that's about it! Praying, having faith and perseverance is all...keeping at it...lets see what happens next
Nice job hi! Amazing dedication and improvements! Thanks for sharing your accountability and journey. I hope you're getting ready to take it after this last round of uworld? What is the plan now?
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Thank you for sharing your experience. For some reason, I was never fond of MTB2 also, although many people swear by it. Good luck with your prep!
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