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pls guide me which videos are good to see i want to clear step 2 ck in sort time looking for great ,short and best video,kaplan,DIT, online Meded videos, MTB high yield step 2 ck videos? which one i should see.
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Hey knowledge_eater,

personally I found those videos not as good as the videos for step 1. DIT is definitely not recommended, I felt like they do not teach well for the test.

I haven't watched the Kaplan videos, some of my colleagues were saying that they may be beneficial if your knowledge base is poor.

OnlineMedEd is recommended by many US students to watch when doing the core rotations. If you've already done those, they may not be as useful.

UWorld is still the most important resource, but you have to put enough time into the qbank and not gloss over the answers and explanations. It took me almost 2h to review each block, but the result was great (> 260).
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I agree with max_volume UWorld is really helpfull. I performed better in Uworld than the actual exam, but i had really bad exam day, lots of questions on my weak points.

As to the videos, i did all of Kaplan, they are scattered over the web for download, it takes time. Saw them all in 5 months at 1.6x speed with the lecture notes. Really got me freshed me up on concepts, gave me a strong base on which to build on. Its long, but worth it.
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Hey knowledge_eater,

personally I found those videos not as good as the videos for step 1. DIT is definitely not recommended, I felt like they do not teach well for the test.

I haven't watched the Kaplan videos, some of my colleagues were saying that they may be beneficial if your knowledge base is poor.

OnlineMedEd is recommended by many US students to watch when doing the core rotations. If you've already done those, they may not be as useful.

UWorld is still the most important resource, but you have to put enough time into the qbank and not gloss over the answers and explanations. It took me almost 2h to review each block, but the result was great (> 260).
Hi maxvolume, Is DIT good if you have taken step 1 a long time ago? I took step 1 almost 3 years back with a 210, img.

I had some gap years after where I haven't done any major studying and then started uworld for 2 months. I finished that 1st and did it 2x in timed-tutor mode and timed random the 2nd time.

I took an online practice nbme 4 and got a 212. It still shows my basic application foundation being low and also all the subjects are in the middle borderline or below borderline. No one subject or section goes past borderline.

I have all these review books (mtb 2/3, secrets, first aid ck, step up medicine) and kaplan videos but I tried flipping through them to see if I can learn from them but nothing was really helpful in getting that information to stick and apply to the mcq.

The kaplan videos went all over the place without any structure. After watching some of conrad fischer, I gave up because of all the jokes and things he was saying that went all over the place. So I didn't do the videos and just watched maybe 10 hours randomly to see if it will help.

With online med, it looked like the very basics are there and I didn't have difficulty in understanding what they are teaching but when it came to doing questions, it was not as helpful. There was more clinic teaching in the video and sometimes when the lecturer said it was nothing we needed to know at the step 2ck level or 3rd year medical student level, it came up on the nbme form and on uworld!

After finishing uworld 2 times now, it's not as good for me to use in where it feels like I am not testing myself to learn from the explanations. So it's like reading a book now and that's how I am keeping it.

I was thinking of usmlerx or kaplan qbank but don't have much experience on how these are.

I have 2 months remaining and just trying to figure how I can get in the 230's or 240's.
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Hi maxvolume, Is DIT good if you have taken step 1 a long time ago? I took step 1 almost 3 years back with a 210, img.

I had some gap years after where I haven't done any major studying and then started uworld for 2 months. I finished that 1st and did it 2x in timed-tutor mode and timed random the 2nd time.

I took an online practice nbme 4 and got a 212. It still shows my basic application foundation being low and also all the subjects are in the middle borderline or below borderline. No one subject or section goes past borderline.

I have all these review books (mtb 2/3, secrets, first aid ck, step up medicine) and kaplan videos but I tried flipping through them to see if I can learn from them but nothing was really helpful in getting that information to stick and apply to the mcq.

The kaplan videos went all over the place without any structure. After watching some of conrad fischer, I gave up because of all the jokes and things he was saying that went all over the place. So I didn't do the videos and just watched maybe 10 hours randomly to see if it will help.

With online med, it looked like the very basics are there and I didn't have difficulty in understanding what they are teaching but when it came to doing questions, it was not as helpful. There was more clinic teaching in the video and sometimes when the lecturer said it was nothing we needed to know at the step 2ck level or 3rd year medical student level, it came up on the nbme form and on uworld!

After finishing uworld 2 times now, it's not as good for me to use in where it feels like I am not testing myself to learn from the explanations. So it's like reading a book now and that's how I am keeping it.

I was thinking of usmlerx or kaplan qbank but don't have much experience on how these are.

I have 2 months remaining and just trying to figure how I can get in the 230's or 240's.
I forgot to say, my timing is ok.
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it seems that nobody seems to know about the paul bolins videos... i think i'll start a thread about. in short, the videos are free and aimed directly at the usmle. he does a great job discussing each topic... just search usmle in youtube and you will find the videos.
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it seems that nobody seems to know about the paul bolins videos... i think i'll start a thread about. in short, the videos are free and aimed directly at the usmle. he does a great job discussing each topic... just search usmle in youtube and you will find the videos.
Those videos look nice. How many hours are there total of what's available?

Have you ever heard if Dr. Bolin will create the rest of the core subjects for CK? any timeline? As much as I would like to use videos like this, it would be nice if there's a complete series to go through.
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i dont know the answer to those questions.. currently there are 451 videos of varying length. he uploads a new video every few days, so he will eventually over all the core topics on the usmle.

although its not yet complete, he seems to have covered internal medicine, surgery, psychiatry and quite a bit of pediatrics. hes currently on gynecology, which i presume he will complete soon. so theres not really much that hes missing.
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Hi maxvolume, Is DIT good if you have taken step 1 a long time ago? I took step 1 almost 3 years back with a 210, img.

I had some gap years after where I haven't done any major studying and then started uworld for 2 months. I finished that 1st and did it 2x in timed-tutor mode and timed random the 2nd time.

I took an online practice nbme 4 and got a 212. It still shows my basic application foundation being low and also all the subjects are in the middle borderline or below borderline. No one subject or section goes past borderline.

I have all these review books (mtb 2/3, secrets, first aid ck, step up medicine) and kaplan videos but I tried flipping through them to see if I can learn from them but nothing was really helpful in getting that information to stick and apply to the mcq.

The kaplan videos went all over the place without any structure. After watching some of conrad fischer, I gave up because of all the jokes and things he was saying that went all over the place. So I didn't do the videos and just watched maybe 10 hours randomly to see if it will help.

With online med, it looked like the very basics are there and I didn't have difficulty in understanding what they are teaching but when it came to doing questions, it was not as helpful. There was more clinic teaching in the video and sometimes when the lecturer said it was nothing we needed to know at the step 2ck level or 3rd year medical student level, it came up on the nbme form and on uworld!

After finishing uworld 2 times now, it's not as good for me to use in where it feels like I am not testing myself to learn from the explanations. So it's like reading a book now and that's how I am keeping it.

I was thinking of usmlerx or kaplan qbank but don't have much experience on how these are.

I have 2 months remaining and just trying to figure how I can get in the 230's or 240's.
Hey canica,

I'll try to answer your questions and give my personal opinions about those resources, however, you should beware this is simply N = 1 and while some of the resources didn't help me, they may still be helpful for you!

Don't watch DIT for step 2 CK. They often mention things to be "high-yield" even though it's the opposite. They are simply not in touch with the exam and gloss over important management steps while mentioning unnecessary minutiae.

Your time gap between step 1 and step 2 CK shouldn't be so detrimental. Doing clinical stuff prepares so much more for step 2 CK than retaining those step 1 facts.

UWorld shouldn't be simply used as a tool to test yourself, the UWSA and NBMEs are much more suited for that. Try to remember why you got questions wrong on the NBME test:

1. I didn't know what disease/condition they were talking about - that means you're unfamiliar with those clinical vignettes. It may be helpful do to more case-based questions, e.g. in those Case Files book. This is very time-consuming and I'd limit it to those subjects where you feel like you're missing a lot of diagnoses.

2. I mixed up 2 conditions - well, then read up on those and try to compare and contrast those. Draw tables with the differences, make flashcards to hammer those into your memory!

3. I forgot what the next management step is - you did recognize the clinical vignette, but didn't know what to do next. Maybe it felt like 2 or 3 answers were the "correct" one. This means that you haven't memorized the management steps in UWorld yet. Look for those algorithms and try to get them into your brain! No algorithm in UWorld? Look another one up in some guidelines or uptodate!

4. I didn't know neither Dx nor management - this is a sign that this subject still is one of your weak points. Reviewing it with more in-depth resources may be advisable. Kruno mentioned Paul Bolin's videos, which are great to review a certain topic very thoroughly (watching all of them would take > 200h, I don't think that's viable for anyone).

Many things in Step 2 CK are not about "understanding" the disease, but rather knowing what to do next. Try to really focus and reflect where your weak points are and don't jump too much between books and videos. Don't gloss over management algorithms when they seem "too easy". And then plan ahead when to take the other NBMEs to monitor your progress.

I hope this can help you a little bit on your journey to Step 2 CK.

Edit: forgot to address a few of your questions:
Qbanks: Kaplan's qbank sucks, too much minutiae, conflicting information and some questions are either way too easy or way to hard due to asking to know minutiae. I have no experience with USMLE-Rx for Step 2 CK, however as many people do not recommend FA for Step 2 CK, I imagine this qbank won't be as good as UWorld.
OnlineMedEd: the videos seem very basic, but they often show how to manage and differentiate between various conditions. At the end of each video you get some sort of algorithm to think through each encounter. I think those videos are the most helpful when you feel like you're not getting the management steps right (see point 3 above)

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Hey canica,

I'll try to answer your questions and give my personal opinions about those resources, however, you should beware this is simply N = 1 and while some of the resources didn't help me, they may still be helpful for you!

Don't watch DIT for step 2 CK. They often mention things to be "high-yield" even though it's the opposite. They are simply not in touch with the exam and gloss over important management steps while mentioning unnecessary minutiae.

Your time gap between step 1 and step 2 CK shouldn't be so detrimental. Doing clinical stuff prepares so much more for step 2 CK than retaining those step 1 facts.

UWorld shouldn't be simply used as a tool to test yourself, the UWSA and NBMEs are much more suited for that. Try to remember why you got questions wrong on the NBME test:

1. I didn't know what disease/condition they were talking about - that means you're unfamiliar with those clinical vignettes. It may be helpful do to more case-based questions, e.g. in those Case Files book. This is very time-consuming and I'd limit it to those subjects where you feel like you're missing a lot of diagnoses.

2. I mixed up 2 conditions - well, then read up on those and try to compare and contrast those. Draw tables with the differences, make flashcards to hammer those into your memory!

3. I forgot what the next management step is - you did recognize the clinical vignette, but didn't know what to do next. Maybe it felt like 2 or 3 answers were the "correct" one. This means that you haven't memorized the management steps in UWorld yet. Look for those algorithms and try to get them into your brain! No algorithm in UWorld? Look another one up in some guidelines or uptodate!

4. I didn't know neither Dx nor management - this is a sign that this subject still is one of your weak points. Reviewing it with more in-depth resources may be advisable. Kruno mentioned Paul Bolin's videos, which are great to review a certain topic very thoroughly (watching all of them would take > 200h, I don't think that's viable for anyone).

Many things in Step 2 CK are not about "understanding" the disease, but rather knowing what to do next. Try to really focus and reflect where your weak points are and don't jump too much between books and videos. Don't gloss over management algorithms when they seem "too easy". And then plan ahead when to take the other NBMEs to monitor your progress.

I hope this can help you a little bit on your journey to Step 2 CK.

Edit: forgot to address a few of your questions:
Qbanks: Kaplan's qbank sucks, too much minutiae, conflicting information and some questions are either way too easy or way to hard due to asking to know minutiae. I have no experience with USMLE-Rx for Step 2 CK, however as many people do not recommend FA for Step 2 CK, I imagine this qbank won't be as good as UWorld.
OnlineMedEd: the videos seem very basic, but they often show how to manage and differentiate between various conditions. At the end of each video you get some sort of algorithm to think through each encounter. I think those videos are the most helpful when you feel like you're not getting the management steps right (see point 3 above)
Thanks a million max_volume! You and Kruno are truly the usmle-forum advice giving all-stars!

What materials did you use in preparing for this exam? And for how long? I'm sure you had a lot of trial and error from the advice you had given too.
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Hey canica,

I was preparing for Step 2 CK while doing my core rotations in my home country and then took the test at the end of the year. I didn't have that much of dedicated study time, but it was sufficient.

The following books besides UWorld were useful to me during my cores:

IM: IM Essentials, NMS casebook
FM: didn't read a review book
Surgery: Casefiles Surgery
Ob/Gyn: Blueprints OB/GYN (but didn't finish it) Casefiles Ob/Gyn
Neurology: Blueprints Neurology
Psychiatry: Blueprints Psychiatry
Peds: Casefiles Pediatry

I also did the mastery series to see if I need a more thorough review or not for each subject.
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just do a bunch of questions and reference first aid or step up thenwatch videos on topic if necessary

save your time its unnecssary
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just do a bunch of questions and reference first aid or step up thenwatch videos on topic if necessary

save your time its unnecssary
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Thank you very much
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For Step 2ck everyone knows that uworld 2ck is the best resource.... for me, the second best resource was uworld step 3. i dont know if thats for everyone, or how many people do that... but it worked out for me.
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I think you should just focus on UWORLD...the information given there is golden! better than any review book or video
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