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Is a good Step 2 ck score is helpful to overcome a low step 1 score?

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DEFINITELY.......the answer is obvious
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Having a high CK score will definitely dilute your low Step 1 score, however, the problem is that some programs apply Step 1 filter, if you get filtered out by that filter because of your low step 1 score then they might not look at your CK score.

However, the number of programs doing (step-1-only) filter is limited and also you can bypass the filter by calling the programs and telling them "hey .. see my CK score"

So yes definitely, a high CK score can really help in improving your overall profile.

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wht abt the ooposite

my step2 ck score is low, would a good step 1 cover up that.
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Having a high CK score will definitely dilute your low Step 1 score, however, the problem is that some programs apply Step 1 filter, if you get filtered out by that filter because of your low step 1 score then they might not look at your CK score.

However, the number of programs doing (step-1-only) filter is limited and also you can bypass the filter by calling the programs and telling them "hey .. see my CK score"

So yes definitely, a high CK score can really help in improving your overall profile.

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Thank you Sabio for your reply. I really have a doubt Sabio..Is it applicable to people who have another red flag in their CV like needing visa?? In many places i read Step 1 score is the core to getting IVs and it is the only score seen during IV calls...in this matter how does a low step 1 score (say 213) gets overcome by a high Step 2 CK score??
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Thank you Sabio for your reply. I really have a doubt Sabio..Is it applicable to people who have another red flag in their CV like needing visa?? In many places i read Step 1 score is the core to getting IVs and it is the only score seen during IV calls...in this matter how does a low step 1 score (say 213) gets overcome by a high Step 2 CK score??
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As I said in my previous post. Some programs apply Step 1 Score filter and if you drop below their threshold you will get filtered out (you all other criteria such as visa status and CK score does not matter then).
The only way to fight this filter is by calling residency programs one by one and tell them hey ... look at the rest of my profile.

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wht abt the ooposite

my step2 ck score is low, would a good step 1 cover up that.
Yeah definitely. Step 1 score is more important than CK score.

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What do you mean by a low step 1 score currently?
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what did u get?

most filters are set at 200
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how can we define low score and high score??
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how can we define low score and high score??
Yes, what exactly s the low score or high score range for each step, given the mean for step 1 n step 2 are 224 & 237 respectively.
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What i mean is the current trend regarding low score in Usmle Step 1 ?
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Mean is 225(+/- 5)
anything lower is a low score, upper - higher score.

"High" or "amazing" score, that will open you doors to plastic surgery is about >245.

Most of the filters are set at 200 at the first attempt, but several programs I saw were asking straight for >220 for step 1 for the first attempt.


For CK - idealy, you need to score higher than your Step 1 score, because everybody thinks that "students tend to score higher on step 2"

Or at least, not to do worse than your CK...

I hope it helps.
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Mean is 225(+/- 5)
anything lower is a low score, upper - higher score.

"High" or "amazing" score, that will open you doors to plastic surgery is about >245.

Most of the filters are set at 200 at the first attempt, but several programs I saw were asking straight for >220 for step 1 for the first attempt.


For CK - idealy, you need to score higher than your Step 1 score, because everybody thinks that "students tend to score higher on step 2"

Or at least, not to do worse than your CK...

I hope it helps.
I completely agree with Docsikorosky....220 is the minimum score to make a scratch...in IM specially(its considered IMG friendly)..in peds and FM i think a bit lower but low scores generally mean anything below 220.
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Please post more replies and views.It will be a motivation for those who are preparing for USMLE Step 2 CK.
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Please post more replies and views.It will be a motivation for those who are preparing for USMLE Step 2 CK.
score of 233 on step1.. is it a good or bad score ?
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Having a high CK score will definitely dilute your low Step 1 score, however, the problem is that some programs apply Step 1 filter, if you get filtered out by that filter because of your low step 1 score then they might not look at your CK score.

However, the number of programs doing (step-1-only) filter is limited and also you can bypass the filter by calling the programs and telling them "hey .. see my CK score"

So yes definitely, a high CK score can really help in improving your overall profile.

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For an IMG with a step 1 score of 196 any chance of residency at all ?
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For an IMG with a step 1 score of 196 any chance of residency at all ?
Do you have US clinical experience?
Do you have "connections"?
Do you have US citizenship?

Don't expect to rock Step 2 CK to make up for it (like IMGs used to do). Getting a 240 is already very difficult for IMGs with the current exam.
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Do you have US clinical experience?
Do you have "connections"?
Do you have US citizenship?

Don't expect to rock Step 2 CK to make up for it (like IMGs used to do). Getting a 240 is already very difficult for IMGs with the current exam.
i just finished step 1. And i do not have us citizenship. I was asking how much would a good ck score help with this
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i just finished step 1. And i do not have us citizenship. I was asking how much would a good ck score help with this
Of course it will help. There are many factors that the programs look at. How competitive the program, green card, Step 1, Step 2, CS first attempt, U.S. clinical experience, etc. Although your Step 1 is low, it is still possible. For best results, you will want to make personal connections with programs in the U.S. hopefully through clinical experience so they can see you in action.
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Of course it will help. There are many factors that the programs look at. How competitive the program, green card, Step 1, Step 2, CS first attempt, U.S. clinical experience, etc. Although your Step 1 is low, it is still possible. For best results, you will want to make personal connections with programs in the U.S. hopefully through clinical experience so they can see you in action.
Thank you . that clears it up a lot
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Without a doubt. Good CK score will be a feather in your cap if you have bad step 1 score.
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Thanks for the advice. It was very insightful.
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