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Guys, I'm freaking out. I have my exam scheduled for the 7th. Doing UWorld right now, first time, random, timed mode. My average is at a 65% and I'm done with 70% of the questions. Any advice? Planning on finishing UWorld by the 22nd and then doing MTB and my UWorld notes. My UWorld scores are making me panic :'(
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exam in T minus 4 days - took UWSA today - got 250 , i wish everyone here goodluck and i hope to see you soon on the step 3 page
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exam in T minus 4 days - took UWSA today - got 250 , i wish everyone here goodluck and i hope to see you soon on the step 3 page
Good luck to u too On ur big day.....
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UWSA 216 yesterday:
Block 1 61%
Block 2 48%
Block 3 80%
Block 4 61%

Rescheduled my exam to 15 August. That's exactly four weeks from now.

Plan:
-3 weeks, go over MTB and UW/incorrect
-NBME
-1 week, scan everything while focusing on weak points.

Target score: 240+

Please tell me what you guys think. Also, if its possible to jump to 240 in 4 weeks.

Thanks
I had the same score 2weeks back in uwsa, but were very silly mistakes.. now my exam is in 5 days.. don have time to postpone the exam .. lets see.. will be taking an offline nbme soon
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I had the same score 2weeks back in uwsa, but were very silly mistakes.. now my exam is in 5 days.. don have time to postpone the exam .. lets see.. will be taking an offline nbme soon
I suggest you take it online. It's worth the money.

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What do you guys think of only doing Questions (UW) at this stage?
Meaning, no reading from books and just cramming questions all day and all night until your done with UW.

I personally still have 35 blocks of UW left and my previous plan was to do both MTB and UW together for the remaining 4 weeks till the exam, but I'm thinking of forgetting my MTB for a while and just do Q's for the next 2 weeks (4 weeks till exam), in a condense and concentrated manner.

What do you guys think?
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What do you guys think?
can't answer your question, but whats your current UW%?
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can't answer your question, but whats your current UW%?
61% (last 6 blocks average of 67%)
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What do you guys think of only doing Questions (UW) at this stage?
Meaning, no reading from books and just cramming questions all day and all night until your done with UW.

I personally still have 35 blocks of UW left and my previous plan was to do both MTB and UW together for the remaining 4 weeks till the exam, but I'm thinking of forgetting my MTB for a while and just do Q's for the next 2 weeks (4 weeks till exam), in a condense and concentrated manner.

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Hi.. Hv u completed UW once? I also hv 3 weeks for my exam.. I hv divided my UW marked and incorrect q n MTB pgs so I read few MTB pgs+ do q so I don't get bored doing just one thing.. See if this works for u.. Just my 2 cents..
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What do you guys think of only doing Questions (UW) at this stage?
Meaning, no reading from books and just cramming questions all day and all night until your done with UW.

I personally still have 35 blocks of UW left and my previous plan was to do both MTB and UW together for the remaining 4 weeks till the exam, but I'm thinking of forgetting my MTB for a while and just do Q's for the next 2 weeks (4 weeks till exam), in a condense and concentrated manner.

What do you guys think?
That's the wiser thing to do in my opinion at this point! But since you're going to revise the material try to do it subject wise, so you can extract the most of it!
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exam in T minus 4 days - took UWSA today - got 250 , i wish everyone here goodluck and i hope to see you soon on the step 3 page
I'm on the same boat as you, exam in 5 days! Hope UWSA is reliable, gave it yesterday and got a good score on it too!

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Since your exam is close, there isn't any point in taking down UW notes. I feel that writing and paraphrasing notes from UW is what takes the largest amount of time.
I suggest that instead of taking down notes, you proceed with a "scorched earth policy", i.e. Read and absorb and digest as much as possible before moving on to the next block.

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I hate taking notes from UW too! Instead, I use genxraver UW notes. They are very well organized in themes! Very useful specially for Peds!
Genxraver CK Notes
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The other one that is really useful is FC Barcelona CK Notes:
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Gosh..I am in the same boat.. 30 UW blocks to go and 4 weeks left
I am am going to try with all sincerity and see how many blocks I can nail down ever day for next 2 days--that will at least help map out the plan!
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Worth taking a look at it for the abstract questions!! Types of Study designss.. Gosh, I'm about to go crazy with all of this information!!!

http://ocw.jhsph.edu/courses/Biostat...c2_foulkes.pdf

Also, UW question ID 7688 and 7689..
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Guys, I'm freaking out. I have my exam scheduled for the 7th. Doing UWorld right now, first time, random, timed mode. My average is at a 65% and I'm done with 70% of the questions. Any advice? Planning on finishing UWorld by the 22nd and then doing MTB and my UWorld notes. My UWorld scores are making me panic :'(
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Just relax. 65 percent is not a bad score. It guarantees you 230s. Some of my friends had same scores in UW and they got 230s n 240s in real exam. Have you taken any online NBME? If not then after completion of UW you should first take NBME4. And I will say that you should do UW twice. Read it like a book. Its great if you have made UW notes. So right now complete UW and then take NBME4 and then repeat UW along with MTB2. In the last week just revise your UW notes and MTB. Good luck
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I have had some of the most rotten times while preparing for CK. and it became worse because I also have a job. My first NBME score turned out to be a bare pass. but I improved 30 marks on it after covering 15blocks of uworld on a fresh subscription. my exam is 4 days away.
I hoped to improve more but I accept my limitations.

Til the 7th of August memorize Uworld. As of much of it as you can. Read it inside out. Understand the question stems. Understand why answers are being ruled out. Do it random timed. Do the explanations right after. See what you did wrong and Why. This stuff really helped me.
I didnt do MTBs or anything else because of a shortage of time. I have 25 blocks of uworld still left and I am completely freaking out myself. But I am sure that doing uworld 'ACTIVELY' (using my head to make links and relations) till the last day will help me the most.

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I have had some of the most rotten times while preparing for CK. and it became worse because I also have a job. My first NBME score turned out to be a bare pass. but I improved 30 marks on it after covering 15blocks of uworld on a fresh subscription. my exam is 4 days away.
I hoped to improve more but I accept my limitations.

Til the 7th of August memorize Uworld. As of much of it as you can. Read it inside out. Understand the question stems. Understand why answers are being ruled out. Do it random timed. Do the explanations right after. See what you did wrong and Why. This stuff really helped me.
I didnt do MTBs or anything else because of a shortage of time. I have 25 blocks of uworld still left and I am completely freaking out myself. But I am sure that doing uworld 'ACTIVELY' (using my head to make links and relations) till the last day will help me the most.

All the best.
even my exam is in 4 days ..your post made me feel that someone is there with me.. we are all in the same boat.. the anxiety, pressure, time limit etc, but have to overcome all .. good luck to you ..
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Good to know. Mine is the 25th.
Lets kill ourselves and not listen to any sort of negativity while we're at it it. Good luck to you too!


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even my exam is in 4 days ..your post made me feel that someone is there with me.. we are all in the same boat.. the anxiety, pressure, time limit etc, but have to overcome all .. good luck to you ..
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Hello everyone!

I just took my exam yesterday and I wanted to share a little bit from my experience.

First of all, I didn't think that questions were out of the blue, from Mars etc. I felt like 70% were asking to apply the concepts studied from UW and MTBs. Of course, there were questions where I had to take an educated guess and others where I had to use my non UW medical information or to apply some concepts acquired in medical school.

The exam is long (everybody agrees on that I think)...I had mostly 45 questions, 2 blocks with 43 and the last one was 32 (all of them had 60 minutes). The questions length is similar to UW and 150 free questions. I had questions that were 4 lines long and others (mostly psychiatry) that were really long. I marked around 20 questions in each block, with the exception of the 5th block that seemed really easy.

I think the most tested was muskuloskeletal, back pain, nerve lesions, preventive medicine, a lot of gynecology (I only had like 2 questions on Obstetrics), biostatistics was really hard (it is not only sens, sp, PPV, NPV, but also have to know really well NNT, ARR, RRR etc). I had 3 ECKs, 3 chest CTs, XRays (foot), 2 murmurs, some derma pictures (2 of them wasn't sure on the diagnosis).

Most of the questions were asking what is the next best step in management...not so many on "what is the diagnosis". I didn't feel I had questions from Step 1 (probably the biostatistics and another one that was easy). No glycogen storage diseases, but had some on immunodeficiencies in Pediatrics.

I don't have a clue of what I have done... I can end up with a score between anywhere between 220-250. It is so hard to predict...

My scores were:

Step1 244;

Kaplan QBank: 68%; UW: 75% (untimed, random, first time pass)
NBME 4 (1 week before): offline, 23 wrong questions, around 248;
NBME 6 (5 days before): online, 21 wrong questions, 248;
UWSA (2 weeks before): 247
150 Free q (2 days before): 91.5%

I wish you all good luck in your preparation and go to the exam confident and try to think every question as if it were a real patient.
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I just took my exam yesterday and I wanted to share a little bit from my experience.

First of all, I didn't think that questions were out of the blue, from Mars etc. I felt like 70% were asking to apply the concepts studied from UW and MTBs. Of course, there were questions where I had to take an educated guess and others where I had to use my non UW medical information or to apply some concepts acquired in medical school.

The exam is long (everybody agrees on that I think)...I had mostly 45 questions, 2 blocks with 43 and the last one was 32 (all of them had 60 minutes). The questions length is similar to UW and 150 free questions. I had questions that were 4 lines long and others (mostly psychiatry) that were really long. I marked around 20 questions in each block, with the exception of the 5th block that seemed really easy.

I think the most tested was muskuloskeletal, back pain, nerve lesions, preventive medicine, a lot of gynecology (I only had like 2 questions on Obstetrics), biostatistics was really hard (it is not only sens, sp, PPV, NPV, but also have to know really well NNT, ARR, RRR etc). I had 3 ECKs, 3 chest CTs, XRays (foot), 2 murmurs, some derma pictures (2 of them wasn't sure on the diagnosis).

Most of the questions were asking what is the next best step in management...not so many on "what is the diagnosis". I didn't feel I had questions from Step 1 (probably the biostatistics and another one that was easy). No glycogen storage diseases, but had some on immunodeficiencies in Pediatrics.

I don't have a clue of what I have done... I can end up with a score between anywhere between 220-250. It is so hard to predict...

My scores were:

Step1 244;

Kaplan QBank: 68%; UW: 75% (untimed, random, first time pass)
NBME 4 (1 week before): offline, 23 wrong questions, around 248;
NBME 6 (5 days before): online, 21 wrong questions, 248;
UWSA (2 weeks before): 247
150 Free q (2 days before): 91.5%

I wish you all good luck in your preparation and go to the exam confident and try to think every question as if it were a real patient.
Thank you for the post ... I am sure you did well.. was cardiology a very heavily tested topic.. n in gyno was it about cervical cancer, ASCUS, etc ..
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Thank you for the post ... I am sure you did well.. was cardiology a very heavily tested topic.. n in gyno was it about cervical cancer, ASCUS, etc ..
I didn't feel cardiology was heavily tested...in gyne I had one q with ASCUS, one with LGSIL (what is the next step in management...similar to UW), but then also contraceptives, bartholin cysts, preventive medicine etc
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I took the exam on 7/18

I had read the Kaplans and done videos during the year for my shelf exams.
I did MTB 2 4 times.
I read Secrets 2 times.
I did two passes of UWorld, 66 on first go.
I did USMLE weapon and COMBANK 2x with ~73 on first pass.
I had a 235 on Step 1.

2CK was the worst. I barely finished each section. Almost 1/3 of the questions talked about things that were not reviewed in the materials I used. I had several questions in each block that were step 1 style.

I am not sure I passed.

I started looking over FA2CK, after the test to check facts, and I think it is a good place to start instead of MTB2.

I hope everyone else gets by okay, but I think I am in deep trouble.
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Can you tell us how you did on the NBMEs and UWSA.
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I had read the Kaplans and done videos during the year for my shelf exams.
I did MTB 2 4 times.
I read Secrets 2 times.
I did two passes of UWorld, 66 on first go.
I did USMLE weapon and COMBANK 2x with ~73 on first pass.
I had a 235 on Step 1.

2CK was the worst. I barely finished each section. Almost 1/3 of the questions talked about things that were not reviewed in the materials I used. I had several questions in each block that were step 1 style.

I am not sure I passed.

I started looking over FA2CK, after the test to check facts, and I think it is a good place to start instead of MTB2.

I hope everyone else gets by okay, but I think I am in deep trouble.
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Hi teona .. Thanx for sharing ur experience.. Can u pls tell howz derma pics on exam? I mean m very bad at ans derma q so were u able to ans just from q stem or dey showed d lesion n asked d q? N also were EKG classical?
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did the 150 free questions today and got 82% ( 84% first block, 86% second block, 74% third block, and 100% last block [video and sound section])

Is this an okay mark to have? I saw on this site that alot of the people who scored around 85-90's scored around 240-250.

got a 219 on nbme 4 about a week and a half ago, doing nbme 6 tomorrow and uwsa on monday
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did the 150 free questions today and got 82% ( 84% first block, 86% second block, 74% third block, and 100% last block [video and sound section])

Is this an okay mark to have? I saw on this site that alot of the people who scored around 85-90's scored around 240-250.

got a 219 on nbme 4 about a week and a half ago, doing nbme 6 tomorrow and uwsa on monday
That's a really good score. But you can't know for sure until you do the planned NBME 6 and UWSA. Update us when you've taken them.

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in your case, I would try to do it subject-wise and study the questions from UW and MTB2.. But don't forget to give UWSA closer to your exam date so you can have a parameter! Also, take a look at barcelona CK notes and genxraver UW notes, they are good with the picky stuff that you need to memorize..
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Hi everyone. ... I hv a question ... Is it necessary to do a 8 blocks exam pattern at home before main exam ?
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if you want to practice on how to allocate your break times, it could be a good idea, or just do another nbme! You dont necessarily have to if you have a plan set. Dont do it too near your exam tho, it's going to make you extremely exhausted.
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if you want to practice on how to allocate your break times, it could be a good idea, or just do another nbme! You dont necessarily have to if you have a plan set. Dont do it too near your exam tho, it's going to make you extremely exhausted.
Okay... Thank u... I hv UWSA to do.... so will not try anything else..... Thanks again...
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Hi teona .. Thanx for sharing ur experience.. Can u pls tell howz derma pics on exam? I mean m very bad at ans derma q so were u able to ans just from q stem or dey showed d lesion n asked d q? N also were EKG classical?
Most of the derma questions required to recognize the disease from the photo. You couldn't have guessed what is it from the stem q. The questions didn't ask what is the diagnosis, but what is the next step or what is the mechanism (type IV hypersens reaction) As I remember right now, 2 of them were really easy, but 2 I am not sure about them because the information wasn't in MTB or UW.
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Most of the derma questions required to recognize the disease from the photo. You couldn't have guessed what is it from the stem q. The questions didn't ask what is the diagnosis, but what is the next step or what is the mechanism (type IV hypersens reaction) As I remember right now, 2 of them were really easy, but 2 I am not sure about them because the information wasn't in MTB or UW.
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UW random timed 1st pass score 77 percent
NBME 2 (246/540)
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Can I score 250+ with this performance so far?
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Can I score 250+ with this performance so far?
yepp , just keep studying until your exam , and brush up on concepts.
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U world average 77%
UWSA yesterday 240
Have done MTB2 & MTB3 well
Exam tomorrow, can't think of postponing.

Guys & gals Wish me luck. I need it.
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Most of the derma questions required to recognize the disease from the photo. You couldn't have guessed what is it from the stem q. The questions didn't ask what is the diagnosis, but what is the next step or what is the mechanism (type IV hypersens reaction) As I remember right now, 2 of them were really easy, but 2 I am not sure about them because the information wasn't in MTB or UW.
I also wanted to ask d same ques.. Is it really so hard like ppl in other threads r posting? U hv taken d exam recently so u can give d best ans.. i dont believe those newbies.. i read In some other forum also n actually started a thread here to clarify but dint get much response... M relying on UW n MTBs cuz I really don't kno what else to read.. They cover most of the imp topics n I believe in exam they will test these topics in all sorts of twisted forms so wid this belief m going for exam..
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U world average 77%
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Have done MTB2 & MTB3 well
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Praying for you myfriend!! My test is on Wed..

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UW random timed 1st pass score 77 percent
NBME 2 (246/540)
NBME 4 (246/540)
Will take UWSA near to exam. Exam in 3rd week of August

Can I score 250+ with this performance so far?
Absolutely! NBMEs are poor correlators for Step 2, sometimes they underestimate, sometimes they overestimate. Previous Step 1 score, UW % (1st time random untimed) and UWSA on that order seem to me like more reliable predictors of your performance. Having said that, I'd put more weight on your UW % history in that case.

NBME, UWSA, Qbanks Averages, Correlation with Real Step 2 CK Exam Score

I've copied & pasted the experience of the user rammyj5 that is similar to yours:

USMLE World Timed Random; 75%
Free 150: 85%
All 4 NBMEs Average: 244

Real CK score: 261
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exam tomorrow(tuesday) just finished 150 free questions usmle

block 1 89 %
block 2 80 %
block 3 80 %
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How high do you think i can score?

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block 4 100 %

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How high do you think i can score?

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You are most def scoring above the average. I wager you will get at least a 245. You are a focused person, so I'm sure you won't panic and make too many silly mistakes in the exam.
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Got 229 on nbme 6 today! Thats certainly a postive
Yesterday on free 150 got 82%
got a 219 on nbme 4 about 10 days ago

Final exam in 7 days! Hopefully i score really well tomorrow on uwsa to give me a little bit of relief lol
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Got 78% in Free 150 Q.... What should I do now?? Exam in 3 days
I am screwd....
UW avr 67%
Didnt take any NBME bcoz I dont want to be demoralized by any kind of low score but now in Free 150q itself my score is really bad.
Will take UWSA tmrw... Hope for a better one tmrw:sorry::sorry::sorry:
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Yesterday on free 150 got 82%
got a 219 on nbme 4 about 10 days ago

Final exam in 7 days! Hopefully i score really well tomorrow on uwsa to give me a little bit of relief lol
Good luck.... You will do great...
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Hi... How did your exam go?? I hope you did great.... Any inputs from your side ??
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Yesterday on free 150 got 82%
got a 219 on nbme 4 about 10 days ago

Final exam in 7 days! Hopefully i score really well tomorrow on uwsa to give me a little bit of relief lol
whats ur UWSA score?
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Just finished my 9 hours... If you have studied u should be able to answer everything. Those who say something else are lying.
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Well, I replied in another thread, but I'll just copy and paste it.. Since it's kinda relevant for this thread too

Just wrote CK a few hours ago, I felt pretty similar to UWSA, even some questions were very very alike to UWSA and NBMEs, the problem of course are the stems a little bit longer so time management is an important issue, but there are a lot of straightforward questions, I'd say 20-25%.. Also, a lot of concepts from MTB2CK and MTB3 and UW, would say that they would cover about 80%, 10% they don't cover but it's step1 stuff like adverse drug reactions you might find on First aid for Step 1, 5% they don't cover but you could find on Kaplan LN for Step2 and about 5% (maybe a little bit more) consists of crazy stuff and dafuq questions.. I'll write a more detailed review later, I'm very tired so I'll just hang out with my friends.. However, i think I'm definitely on the right track to pass, I'm not worried about it at all..

But again, this was my experience, so it may vary.. Also, I worked my ass off watching kaplan videos for GYN/OB, PEDs and Psych which are my weaknesses, did UW 2x, did Kaplan qbank for the minors (about 40% but it was worthless).. And did IM entirely from MTB, also watched about 40% of DIT for CK (2011 version), it was good but it was definitely not necessary!! So my advise would be to firstly focus on your weaknesses and what a couple of Kaplan Videos along with the notes (don't need to do it all, just your weaknesses to understand better the concepts), them UW 2x, first, subjective-wise along with MTB2 (all) and MTB3 (for the minors peds, OB/GYN, surgery).. Them do it again random timed.. I hate taking notes, so I read genxraver UW notes that put the explanations for UW in a pdf file organized by subjects - this is for the lazy bastards like me who don't like to take notes), them do the NBMEs (2 and 4 are the best -on line) and UWSA and study their questions, since they tend to repeat.. Well that's a summary, afterwards I'll put a more detailed preparation..

My simulated exam Hx (all online forms):
NBME 4 (jan 24, 2013) - 249/580 (23 wrong)
NBME 2 (Jul 11, 2013 - ˜2 weeks before) - 271/660 (dunno how many wrong, but based on a friend who got the same result on NBME 4 with extended feedback it's about 11 wrong)
UWSA (˜1 week before) - 265/800 (95%/91%/91%/91% - 14 wrong questions)

Qbank Hx:
UW, 1st round, random, timed - 81%
UW, 2nd round - did about 60% random timed and got 91%, them switched to subject-wise in the last 2 weeks for the remained 40% to revise along with MTB (got 91% also)
Kaplan qbank, subject-wise, non-timed - Did about 40% for the minors psych, peds, surg, neuro, ob/gyn, ophthalmo got about 75% - Very low yield stuff!! Please avoid!! UW is enough!!!

PS: please, if possible, write CK before CS at all costs!!! The awaiting for the CS results killed my preparation and made me delay my test 4 weeks because I wasn't able to concentrate!!!
PS2: My blocks were like 42-44-43-44-45-43-45-28.. When I saw I got 28 questions for the last block I was like! Dafuq!?? Then I smiled, nevertheless It was the most difficult..
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Just wrote CK a few hours ago, I felt pretty similar to UWSA, even some questions were very very alike to UWSA and NBMEs, the problem of course are the stems a little bit longer so time management is an important issue, but there are a lot of straightforward questions, I'd say 20-25%.. Also, a lot of concepts from MTB2CK and MTB3 and UW, would say that they would cover about 80%, 10% they don't cover but it's step1 stuff like adverse drug reactions you might find on First aid for Step 1, 5% they don't cover but you could find on Kaplan LN for Step2 and about 5% (maybe a little bit more) consists of crazy stuff and dafuq questions.. I'll write a more detailed review later, I'm very tired so I'll just hang out with my friends.. However, i think I'm definitely on the right track to pass, I'm not worried about it at all..

But again, this was my experience, so it may vary.. Also, I worked my ass off watching kaplan videos for GYN/OB, PEDs and Psych which are my weaknesses, did UW 2x, did Kaplan qbank for the minors (about 40% but it was worthless).. And did IM entirely from MTB, also watched about 40% of DIT for CK (2011 version), it was good but it was definitely not necessary!! So my advise would be to firstly focus on your weaknesses and what a couple of Kaplan Videos along with the notes (don't need to do it all, just your weaknesses to understand better the concepts), them UW 2x, first, subjective-wise along with MTB2 (all) and MTB3 (for the minors peds, OB/GYN, surgery).. Them do it again random timed.. I hate taking notes, so I read genxraver UW notes that put the explanations for UW in a pdf file organized by subjects - this is for the lazy bastards like me who don't like to take notes), them do the NBMEs (2 and 4 are the best -on line) and UWSA and study their questions, since they tend to repeat.. Well that's a summary, afterwards I'll put a more detailed preparation..

My simulated exam Hx (all online forms):
NBME 4 (jan 24, 2013) - 249/580 (23 wrong)
NBME 2 (Jul 11, 2013 - 2 weeks before) - 271/660 (dunno how many wrong, but based on a friend who got the same result on NBME 4 with extended feedback it's about 11 wrong)
UWSA (1 week before) - 265/800 (95%/91%/91%/91% - 14 wrong questions)

Qbank Hx:
UW, 1st round, random, timed - 81%
UW, 2nd round - did about 60% random timed and got 91%, them switched to subject-wise in the last 2 weeks for the remained 40% to revise along with MTB (got 91% also)
Kaplan qbank, subject-wise, non-timed - Did about 40% for the minors psych, peds, surg, neuro, ob/gyn, ophthalmo got about 75% - Very low yield stuff!! Please avoid!! UW is enough!!!

PS: please, if possible, write CK before CS at all costs!!! The awaiting for the CS results killed my preparation and made me delay my test 4 weeks because I wasn't able to concentrate!!!
PS2: My blocks were like 42-44-43-44-45-43-45-28.. When I saw I got 28 questions for the last block I was like! Dafuq!?? Then I smiled, nevertheless It was the most difficult..

Thank you so much for the update.... U would hv rocked
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Well, I replied in another thread, but I'll just copy and paste it.. Since it's kinda relevant for this thread too

Just wrote CK a few hours ago, I felt pretty similar to UWSA, even some questions were very very alike to UWSA and NBMEs, the problem of course are the stems a little bit longer so time management is an important issue, but there are a lot of straightforward questions, I'd say 20-25%.. Also, a lot of concepts from MTB2CK and MTB3 and UW, would say that they would cover about 80%, 10% they don't cover but it's step1 stuff like adverse drug reactions you might find on First aid for Step 1, 5% they don't cover but you could find on Kaplan LN for Step2 and about 5% (maybe a little bit more) consists of crazy stuff and dafuq questions.. I'll write a more detailed review later, I'm very tired so I'll just hang out with my friends.. However, i think I'm definitely on the right track to pass, I'm not worried about it at all..

But again, this was my experience, so it may vary.. Also, I worked my ass off watching kaplan videos for GYN/OB, PEDs and Psych which are my weaknesses, did UW 2x, did Kaplan qbank for the minors (about 40% but it was worthless).. And did IM entirely from MTB, also watched about 40% of DIT for CK (2011 version), it was good but it was definitely not necessary!! So my advise would be to firstly focus on your weaknesses and what a couple of Kaplan Videos along with the notes (don't need to do it all, just your weaknesses to understand better the concepts), them UW 2x, first, subjective-wise along with MTB2 (all) and MTB3 (for the minors peds, OB/GYN, surgery).. Them do it again random timed.. I hate taking notes, so I read genxraver UW notes that put the explanations for UW in a pdf file organized by subjects - this is for the lazy bastards like me who don't like to take notes), them do the NBMEs (2 and 4 are the best -on line) and UWSA and study their questions, since they tend to repeat.. Well that's a summary, afterwards I'll put a more detailed preparation..

My simulated exam Hx (all online forms):
NBME 4 (jan 24, 2013) - 249/580 (23 wrong)
NBME 2 (Jul 11, 2013 - 2 weeks before) - 271/660 (dunno how many wrong, but based on a friend who got the same result on NBME 4 with extended feedback it's about 11 wrong)
UWSA (1 week before) - 265/800 (95%/91%/91%/91% - 14 wrong questions)

Qbank Hx:
UW, 1st round, random, timed - 81%
UW, 2nd round - did about 60% random timed and got 91%, them switched to subject-wise in the last 2 weeks for the remained 40% to revise along with MTB (got 91% also)
Kaplan qbank, subject-wise, non-timed - Did about 40% for the minors psych, peds, surg, neuro, ob/gyn, ophthalmo got about 75% - Very low yield stuff!! Please avoid!! UW is enough!!!

PS: please, if possible, write CK before CS at all costs!!! The awaiting for the CS results killed my preparation and made me delay my test 4 weeks because I wasn't able to concentrate!!!
PS2: My blocks were like 42-44-43-44-45-43-45-28.. When I saw I got 28 questions for the last block I was like! Dafuq!?? Then I smiled, nevertheless It was the most difficult..
You sound like you very well prepared for the test and left nothing to chance..good luck!

Quick question: do you think I can use the lecture videos as a substitute for the lecture notes and annotate in MTB or do I need to study both videos and lectures in tandem?
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just did uwsa 1 and got 234 (570)

nbme 6 got 229 two days ago

nbme 4 got 219 two and a half weeks ago.

exam is in 5 days!!! I guess im going in for the exam!!! So stressed i gotta keep reviewing my weak areas!

Thank's cearamor for the awesome description of the exam!! really helpful to know the layout of the exam!
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just did uwsa 1 and got 234 (570)

nbme 6 got 229 two days ago

nbme 4 got 219 two and a half weeks ago.

exam is in 5 days!!! I guess im going in for the exam!!! So stressed i gotta keep reviewing my weak areas!

Thank's cearamor for the awesome description of the exam!! really helpful to know the layout of the exam!
One last final consolidation of the weak areas and you'll reach the 240s range for the exam.

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actually i got a question, when it comes to drug adds or abstracts, do the questions typically come at the end of the block or do they come in the middle of the block? Im just wondering whether i should attempt drug adds or such questions as soon as the block begins and then do the other questions there after so i dont have to worry about an upcoming add/abstract question and allocate my time among the other questions
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Can I score 250+ with this performance so far?
You reached the limit of private message, so I'll tell you what I did in my last 3 weeks of preparation and share with others, hope this helps!!)

Can't comment about the nature of the questions.. But pharm is definitely a high-yield topic, but CK focus only on side effects (make sure you now by heart the mnemonics of first aid regarding that, like side effects of TB drugs, psych, HIV med, drugs that cause Hemolysis, etc etc), Biostatistics and Epidemiology are not covered in MTB but the chapter from first aid is good (make sure you know all the formulas including NNT and etc).. Use those 3 weeks wisely, IM compose like 40% or more of the test, so what I did in my last 3 weeks was to read MTB2 twice and MT3 for the minors (a loooottt of concepts from there!!) along with genxraver UW notes which is a pdf file with the explanations of the UW questions copied and pasted (http://adf.ly/MbxBh), that is sufficient to cover topics not covered by MTB.. Use First aid for step 1 to revise drug adverse effects and epidemiology/biostatistics.. This will cover the most important stuff, probably 90% or more.. So to master 90% of the exam content, in my view, is most important than to disperse your focus in 5% of the stuff you might get wrong even if you study!!! So, trust me, it's not time to use multiple sources!!!

After you do this, and only after you do this, I suggest you to take a look at some chapters from Kaplan LN that are very high yield Surgery LN (Orthopedics and trauma cases), Pediatrics (IMMUNODEFICIENCIES very HY, including the treatment!!! GENETIC diseases! Neuro, Eye, HEENT, Hematology to complement MTB2 and 3).. For OB/GYN (KNOW ALGORYTHMS FOR ASCUS, Low grade, High grade, etc, Breast nodules - this take some time to master and usually are very challenging questions!), PSYCH must learn the subtle differences between adjustment disorders, panic, depression, schizophrenias, personality, well.. MTB2 is enough, but taking a look at the mneumonics from first aid step1 like SIGECAPS, DIG FAST, I WATCH DEATH is extemely HY!!!

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You sound like you very well prepared for the test and left nothing to chance..good luck!

Quick question: do you think I can use the lecture videos as a substitute for the lecture notes and annotate in MTB or do I need to study both videos and lectures in tandem?
As a matter of fact, this would be the best approach in my opinion! But only Surgery LN and Peds are worth taking a look in my opinion! Kaplan LN is a bit outdated and MTB is more than enough for IM!!! Peds is a big part of the test and some diseases covered only in the LN seems to me to be the cause of frustration for those who think CK is from mars! Again, UW questions and of course genxraver UW notes cover the what is worth from LN, but sometimes UW explanations are vague, in such cases it's worth taking a look to see what kaplan LN have to say.. Also, search google images, otherwise you'll never be able to answer image questions!!!
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actually i got a question, when it comes to drug adds or abstracts, do the questions typically come at the end of the block or do they come in the middle of the block? Im just wondering whether i should attempt drug adds or such questions as soon as the block begins and then do the other questions there after so i dont have to worry about an upcoming add/abstract question and allocate my time among the other questions
My advice is to leave Drug ads/abstracts to the end, even if they are in the middle part of block.. Otherwise, you risk losing easy straightforward questions by running outatime!!!
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You reached the limit of private message, so I'll tell you what I did in my last 3 weeks of preparation and share with others, hope this helps!!)

Can't comment about the nature of the questions.. But pharm is definitely a high-yield topic, but CK focus only on side effects (make sure you now by heart the mnemonics of first aid regarding that, like side effects of TB drugs, psych, HIV med, drugs that cause Hemolysis, etc etc), Biostatistics and Epidemiology are not covered in MTB but the chapter from first aid is good (make sure you know all the formulas including NNT and etc).. Use those 3 weeks wisely, IM compose like 40% or more of the test, so what I did in my last 3 weeks was to read MTB2 twice and MT3 for the minors (a loooottt of concepts from there!!) along with genxraver UW notes which is a pdf file with the explanations of the UW questions copied and pasted (http://adf.ly/MbxBh), that is sufficient to cover topics not covered by MTB.. Use First aid for step 1 to revise drug adverse effects and epidemiology/biostatistics.. This will cover the most important stuff, probably 90% or more.. So to master 90% of the exam content, in my view, is most important than to disperse your focus in 5% of the stuff you might get wrong even if you study!!! So, trust me, it's not time to use multiple sources!!!

After you do this, and only after you do this, I suggest you to take a look at some chapters from Kaplan LN that are very high yield Surgery LN (Orthopedics and trauma cases), Pediatrics (IMMUNODEFICIENCIES very HY, including the treatment!!! GENETIC diseases! Neuro, Eye, HEENT, Hematology to complement MTB2 and 3).. For OB/GYN (KNOW ALGORYTHMS FOR ASCUS, Low grade, High grade, etc, Breast nodules - this take some time to master and usually are very challenging questions!), PSYCH must learn the subtle differences between adjustment disorders, panic, depression, schizophrenias, personality, well.. MTB2 is enough, but taking a look at the mneumonics from first aid step1 like SIGECAPS, DIG FAST, I WATCH DEATH is extemely HY!!!


Thanks alot Cearamor. You really guided very well. I will definitely follow your guidance. Best of luck for your result now. You will definitely gonna ace it. Remember in prayers. Thanks
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Can't comment about the nature of the questions.. But pharm is definitely a high-yield topic, but CK focus only on side effects (make sure you now by heart the mnemonics of first aid regarding that, like side effects of TB drugs, psych, HIV med, drugs that cause Hemolysis, etc etc), Biostatistics and Epidemiology are not covered in MTB but the chapter from first aid is good (make sure you know all the formulas including NNT and etc).. Use those 3 weeks wisely, IM compose like 40% or more of the test, so what I did in my last 3 weeks was to read MTB2 twice and MT3 for the minors (a loooottt of concepts from there!!) along with genxraver UW notes which is a pdf file with the explanations of the UW questions copied and pasted (http://adf.ly/MbxBh), that is sufficient to cover topics not covered by MTB.. Use First aid for step 1 to revise drug adverse effects and epidemiology/biostatistics.. This will cover the most important stuff, probably 90% or more.. So to master 90% of the exam content, in my view, is most important than to disperse your focus in 5% of the stuff you might get wrong even if you study!!! So, trust me, it's not time to use multiple sources!!!

After you do this, and only after you do this, I suggest you to take a look at some chapters from Kaplan LN that are very high yield Surgery LN (Orthopedics and trauma cases), Pediatrics (IMMUNODEFICIENCIES very HY, including the treatment!!! GENETIC diseases! Neuro, Eye, HEENT, Hematology to complement MTB2 and 3).. For OB/GYN (KNOW ALGORYTHMS FOR ASCUS, Low grade, High grade, etc, Breast nodules - this take some time to master and usually are very challenging questions!), PSYCH must learn the subtle differences between adjustment disorders, panic, depression, schizophrenias, personality, well.. MTB2 is enough, but taking a look at the mneumonics from first aid step1 like SIGECAPS, DIG FAST, I WATCH DEATH is extemely HY!!!
Thanks alot Cearamor. You definitely gonna ace your exam. I will follow your advice. Enjoy your freedom and remember in prayers. Have a nice time.
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Guys, I'm taking sometime off the forum, get some other important stuff to worry about.. I hope the best for you guys and hope everything ends up well.. I'm physically and emotionally devastated by this process, and relieved by finishing it.. Don't know how it's going to be, but will accept anything that comes..

Just don't freak out, trust what is common sense (UW and MTB and Kaplan LN for the parts missing in UW) and work your ass off!!! Those resources are not complete, but it's better than to take a full Kaplan course! Remember that everything in the medical field is covered in this test, and I admire those review books like First Aid, MTB, Step Up, etc to be able to synthesize to a minimum.. It's really hard, but it's doable.. Don't need to get to overdetailed in your preparation, but must know the concepts by the heart.. P E A C E !!! :sorry:
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You reached the limit of private message, so I'll tell you what I did in my last 3 weeks of preparation and share with others, hope this helps!!)

Can't comment about the nature of the questions.. But pharm is definitely a high-yield topic, but CK focus only on side effects (make sure you now by heart the mnemonics of first aid regarding that, like side effects of TB drugs, psych, HIV med, drugs that cause Hemolysis, etc etc), Biostatistics and Epidemiology are not covered in MTB but the chapter from first aid is good (make sure you know all the formulas including NNT and etc).. Use those 3 weeks wisely, IM compose like 40% or more of the test, so what I did in my last 3 weeks was to read MTB2 twice and MT3 for the minors (a loooottt of concepts from there!!) along with genxraver UW notes which is a pdf file with the explanations of the UW questions copied and pasted (http://adf.ly/MbxBh), that is sufficient to cover topics not covered by MTB.. Use First aid for step 1 to revise drug adverse effects and epidemiology/biostatistics.. This will cover the most important stuff, probably 90% or more.. So to master 90% of the exam content, in my view, is most important than to disperse your focus in 5% of the stuff you might get wrong even if you study!!! So, trust me, it's not time to use multiple sources!!!

After you do this, and only after you do this, I suggest you to take a look at some chapters from Kaplan LN that are very high yield Surgery LN (Orthopedics and trauma cases), Pediatrics (IMMUNODEFICIENCIES very HY, including the treatment!!! GENETIC diseases! Neuro, Eye, HEENT, Hematology to complement MTB2 and 3).. For OB/GYN (KNOW ALGORYTHMS FOR ASCUS, Low grade, High grade, etc, Breast nodules - this take some time to master and usually are very challenging questions!), PSYCH must learn the subtle differences between adjustment disorders, panic, depression, schizophrenias, personality, well.. MTB2 is enough, but taking a look at the mneumonics from first aid step1 like SIGECAPS, DIG FAST, I WATCH DEATH is extemely HY!!!
Great post buddy...definitely helpful...wish you all the success in the world
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Ah.... Done with CK today.... What a relief...
Exam is lengthy as everyone says but doable... UWorld and MTB covers almost 80% and remaining are by intelligent guess. There are few direct questions as in UW , many are twisted but the basic concept is only from these materials.If u clearly understand the concept u should be able to answer each and every question....
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Ah.... Done with CK today.... What a relief...
Exam is lengthy as everyone says but doable... UWorld and MTB covers almost 80% and remaining are by intelligent guess. There are few direct questions as in UW , many are twisted but the basic concept is only from these materials.If u clearly understand the concept u should be able to answer each and every question....
Good luck to all those who are preparing for this battle....
I am preparing for Step 2 ck since June 3rd week.I Have just filled form for ECFMG and planning to take exam in August end.I have finished reading USMLE word question bank downloaded version and planing to revise it again.I will purchase online version of USMLEworld for one month once I get confirmation from ECFMG regarding acceptance of my application. I just want to score 220-230.Can you advise me how should I prepare ?
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After getting a few 70% blocks on UW lately, i got a 50% on today's block...weird how devastating such a little thing can be
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Wow, your post made me feel so much better. This is what happened with me today exactly. I went into a pit of depression before starting to study again. Sigh
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Ah.... Done with CK today.... What a relief...
Exam is lengthy as everyone says but doable... UWorld and MTB covers almost 80% and remaining are by intelligent guess. There are few direct questions as in UW , many are twisted but the basic concept is only from these materials.If u clearly understand the concept u should be able to answer each and every question....
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Well done my friend, Wish you the best!

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I am preparing for Step 2 ck since June 3rd week.I Have just filled form for ECFMG and planning to take exam in August end.I have finished reading USMLE word question bank downloaded version and planing to revise it again.I will purchase online version of USMLEworld for one month once I get confirmation from ECFMG regarding acceptance of my application. I just want to score 220-230.Can you advise me how should I prepare ?
As I can understand from ur pist is that u r trying to do Step 2ck first. But its always better to do step1 first n then ck. Lots of basics come from step 1 without that its really going to be hard on u...

Now for Step2ck....
Did u go thr kaplan videos, notes, and MTB? If not before subscribing uw read them.

My advice is that u read kaplan LN along with vidos once.

Then start reading MTB 2 for IM n MTB 3 for remaining subjects. (I read both MTBs completely once if u hv time u can do that)
Read MTB twice before starting UW.

Bcoz this is ur second time In UW , do it Mixed Random and timed mode, do atleast 2 to 3 blocks a day so that u can complete in time. What I did was like subject wise timed mode, thought I wil do random mode in second go but I didnt hv time so just read UW notes which I wrote in MTB.

Most important thing is u hv to write down important points from UW into MTB so that u can go thr them once before ur exam.

After completing UW do one NBME to assess ur performance.

Then go thr MTB and UW alternatively, stress more on MTB.
Do one more NBME to assess urself.
Save UWSA and Free 150 for the last week.

My exam was more like free 150 questions. Length wise and pattern of questions tested were same like these free questions.

The real exam for me contained 20% questions directly from UW and 5% from Step 1 first aid and for remaining 75% u hv to think analyze d question wid the help of UW concepts. So know UW thoroughly, not just answers but know d concept.

After u do all these take UWSA and free 150 1wk before ur real exam.

You will be good to go with all these preparation.... Good luck to you....
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As I can understand from ur pist is that u r trying to do Step 2ck first. But its always better to do step1 first n then ck. Lots of basics come from step 1 without that its really going to be hard on u...

Now for Step2ck....
Did u go thr kaplan videos, notes, and MTB? If not before subscribing uw read them.

My advice is that u read kaplan LN along with vidos once.

Then start reading MTB 2 for IM n MTB 3 for remaining subjects. (I read both MTBs completely once if u hv time u can do that)
Read MTB twice before starting UW.

Bcoz this is ur second time In UW , do it Mixed Random and timed mode, do atleast 2 to 3 blocks a day so that u can complete in time. What I did was like subject wise timed mode, thought I wil do random mode in second go but I didnt hv time so just read UW notes which I wrote in MTB.

Most important thing is u hv to write down important points from UW into MTB so that u can go thr them once before ur exam.

After completing UW do one NBME to assess ur performance.

Then go thr MTB and UW alternatively, stress more on MTB.
Do one more NBME to assess urself.
Save UWSA and Free 150 for the last week.

My exam was more like free 150 questions. Length wise and pattern of questions tested were same like these free questions.

The real exam for me contained 20% questions directly from UW and 5% from Step 1 first aid and for remaining 75% u hv to think analyze d question wid the help of UW concepts. So know UW thoroughly, not just answers but know d concept.

After u do all these take UWSA and free 150 1wk before ur real exam.

You will be good to go with all these preparation.... Good luck to you....
Thanks a lot...I was waiting for your reply...I went through Kaplan notes and videos for IM. For rest all subjects I am doing only UW. Only when I feel weak I go back to Kaplan notes.Initially I started reading Kaplan for Peds I realized I remember most of theory which i read during AIPG Preparation few years back.So I decided to go through UW only.Then I did same for other subjects except for psy and ethics...

Can I download MTB 2 and 3? or should I purchase Them?

Most of ppl put their NBME score score as 552/224....what does that mean...why denominatos and numerator?
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Well done my friend, Wish you the best!

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Actually my assessment scores are not that great but real exam was far better....
UWSA 221
UW avr 67%
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Didnt give any NBMEs due to lack of time...
So they r not that good to tell anyone but I can be an example of how people shouldn't do the exam
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Thanks a lot...I was waiting for your reply...I went through Kaplan notes and videos for IM. For rest all subjects I am doing only UW. Only when I feel weak I go back to Kaplan notes.Initially I started reading Kaplan for Peds I realized I remember most of theory which i read during AIPG Preparation few years back.So I decided to go through UW only.Then I did same for other subjects except for psy and ethics...

Can I download MTB 2 and 3? or should I purchase Them?

Most of ppl put their NBME score score as 552/224....what does that mean...why denominatos and numerator?
Thats actually good as well...
Dont underestimate the exam prepare well...
I dont know qbt any downloads reg MTBs I bought new ones from amazon.
552 is an assessment score which range from 0 to 800 that's not original score. Whereas 224 is the 3 digit score from 0 to 300 where 203 is the passing score, which u actually get in the real exam.This is the only score which is considered important
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Well, I replied in another thread, but I'll just copy and paste it.. Since it's kinda relevant for this thread too

Just wrote CK a few hours ago, I felt pretty similar to UWSA, even some questions were very very alike to UWSA and NBMEs, the problem of course are the stems a little bit longer so time management is an important issue, but there are a lot of straightforward questions, I'd say 20-25%.. Also, a lot of concepts from MTB2CK and MTB3 and UW, would say that they would cover about 80%, 10% they don't cover but it's step1 stuff like adverse drug reactions you might find on First aid for Step 1, 5% they don't cover but you could find on Kaplan LN for Step2 and about 5% (maybe a little bit more) consists of crazy stuff and dafuq questions.. I'll write a more detailed review later, I'm very tired so I'll just hang out with my friends.. However, i think I'm definitely on the right track to pass, I'm not worried about it at all..

But again, this was my experience, so it may vary.. Also, I worked my ass off watching kaplan videos for GYN/OB, PEDs and Psych which are my weaknesses, did UW 2x, did Kaplan qbank for the minors (about 40% but it was worthless).. And did IM entirely from MTB, also watched about 40% of DIT for CK (2011 version), it was good but it was definitely not necessary!! So my advise would be to firstly focus on your weaknesses and what a couple of Kaplan Videos along with the notes (don't need to do it all, just your weaknesses to understand better the concepts), them UW 2x, first, subjective-wise along with MTB2 (all) and MTB3 (for the minors peds, OB/GYN, surgery).. Them do it again random timed.. I hate taking notes, so I read genxraver UW notes that put the explanations for UW in a pdf file organized by subjects - this is for the lazy bastards like me who don't like to take notes), them do the NBMEs (2 and 4 are the best -on line) and UWSA and study their questions, since they tend to repeat.. Well that's a summary, afterwards I'll put a more detailed preparation..

My simulated exam Hx (all online forms):
NBME 4 (jan 24, 2013) - 249/580 (23 wrong)
NBME 2 (Jul 11, 2013 - 2 weeks before) - 271/660 (dunno how many wrong, but based on a friend who got the same result on NBME 4 with extended feedback it's about 11 wrong)
UWSA (1 week before) - 265/800 (95%/91%/91%/91% - 14 wrong questions)

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UW, 1st round, random, timed - 81%
UW, 2nd round - did about 60% random timed and got 91%, them switched to subject-wise in the last 2 weeks for the remained 40% to revise along with MTB (got 91% also)
Kaplan qbank, subject-wise, non-timed - Did about 40% for the minors psych, peds, surg, neuro, ob/gyn, ophthalmo got about 75% - Very low yield stuff!! Please avoid!! UW is enough!!!

PS: please, if possible, write CK before CS at all costs!!! The awaiting for the CS results killed my preparation and made me delay my test 4 weeks because I wasn't able to concentrate!!!
PS2: My blocks were like 42-44-43-44-45-43-45-28.. When I saw I got 28 questions for the last block I was like! Dafuq!?? Then I smiled, nevertheless It was the most difficult..
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For what it's worth....here's my take
First of all - the exam is doable. Don't listen to all these people trying to say it's HARD...it's not! And I am not a Genius!
So 80% of the q's were from uworld and MTB concepts...you have to know the concept...and as far as the question stems...80% on my exam were like uworld and the rest 20% were long.
So, I suggest build speed when practicing qbanks , aim to finish each block when practicing in 45-50 min, so that you have enough time on the real exam.
And try to understand the concept in uworld q's.
I got at least 30% q's based on step 1 concepts so brush up on that, and a loootttt of Q's on ob/gyn esp pap smears and surgey was mainly abdominal injuries.
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For what it's worth....here's my take
First of all - the exam is doable. Don't listen to all these people trying to say it's HARD...it's not! And I am not a Genius!
So 80% of the q's were from uworld and MTB concepts...you have to know the concept...and as far as the question stems...80% on my exam were like uworld and the rest 20% were long.
So, I suggest build speed when practicing qbanks , aim to finish each block when practicing in 45-50 min, so that you have enough time on the real exam.
And try to understand the concept in uworld q's.
I got at least 30% q's based on step 1 concepts so brush up on that, and a loootttt of Q's on ob/gyn esp pap smears and surgey was mainly abdominal injuries.
Good luck guys!
Can you please elaborate the step1 questions that you faced in CK? How to tackle them. I am taking CK before step 1 so kindly guide me.
My assessment scores so far are

UW online random timed 1st time 77 percent
NBME2 246/540
NBME4 246/540
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I hope everyone is doing okay ..!! Guys help sort this out . My uworld blocks take around 55 min . I read in exam experience saying we should practice it by completing the block in 45 min . I wanted to know how everyone else is doing ? And any suggestions to increase speed. Thanks
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Can you please elaborate the step1 questions that you faced in CK? How to tackle them. I am taking CK before step 1 so kindly guide me.
My assessment scores so far are

UW online random timed 1st time 77 percent
NBME2 246/540
NBME4 246/540
Brush up on Biochem, hematology, psych drugs First aid step 1...
Uworld Uworld UWORLD
Your scores are great you will do well
Step 1 before CK though is the way to go but it seems you have the concepts if you are scoring that well.
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guys my exam is on august 29..i have read mtb 2 and 3 and secrets..i was scoring in low 60's in peds when i decided to go through kaplan..man its so extensive..but everything i believe that is tested in peds is in kaplan ..i cannot postpone my exam further..what topics do you think one should read from peds kaplan?? because i think reading the whole book at this point of time will take at least 3-4 days..
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guys my exam is on august 29..i have read mtb 2 and 3 and secrets..i was scoring in low 60's in peds when i decided to go through kaplan..man its so extensive..but everything i believe that is tested in peds is in kaplan ..i cannot postpone my exam further..what topics do you think one should read from peds kaplan?? because i think reading the whole book at this point of time will take at least 3-4 days..
I did not take the exam yet but I read Kaplan once and I think uw covered peds pretty well, but here are the topics that I think it is good in Kaplan and deficient in mtb:immune mediated disease chapter(it is only about 8 pages),congenital anemias ,immunizations and neurology.
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what's good ya'll
im super lazy and not gona read any of the previous posts on this thread but will join in the convo from now on
i was super active on these threads for step 1 and it helped so ima jump back on and holla at ya'll now

just got the OK from my school to write CK
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aiming for august 24th

just studying and shiet til then you know

so whats really good
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what's good ya'll
im super lazy and not gona read any of the previous posts on this thread but will join in the convo from now on
i was super active on these threads for step 1 and it helped so ima jump back on and holla at ya'll now

just got the OK from my school to write CK
waiting for my ID and all to sign up for a date

aiming for august 24th

just studying and shiet til then you know

so whats really good
What are yer stats as of now?
Uw % Kaplan % or what up?
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What are yer stats as of now?
Uw % Kaplan % or what up?
um did UW hap-hazardly over like 4-5 months just for shiits and giggles initially (so wasted like 60% of the qbank since i wasnt reading and didnt know anything), the latter 40% of the qbank i used while actually studying and my blocks went from 50% to finished scoring low 60s. overall i finished with 54% (brought down due to the initial wastage of questions).

im currently going through UW again, scoring 86% average, although each block i recognize about 10questions.

i did my schools COMP exam like a week and a half ago and scored a 75, which is a 212 equivalent. so im assuming im at 210 level right now.

doing DIT and a block of UW a day. will take NBME form 4 online on aug7th, after i finish DIT. aiming for atleast 220 on that.

then finish UW and just review weaknesses and stuff to get me up to a 230 by aug 15-ish when i take nbme form 6 online.

im down with 230 so if all goes as planned, ill take my exam aug24th.

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um did UW hap-hazardly over like 4-5 months just for shiits and giggles initially (so wasted like 60% of the qbank since i wasnt reading and didnt know anything), the latter 40% of the qbank i used while actually studying and my blocks went from 50% to finished scoring low 60s. overall i finished with 54% (brought down due to the initial wastage of questions).

im currently going through UW again, scoring 86% average, although each block i recognize about 10questions.

i did my schools COMP exam like a week and a half ago and scored a 75, which is a 212 equivalent. so im assuming im at 210 level right now.

doing DIT and a block of UW a day. will take NBME form 4 online on aug7th, after i finish DIT. aiming for atleast 220 on that.

then finish UW and just review weaknesses and stuff to get me up to a 230 by aug 15-ish when i take nbme form 6 online.

im down with 230 so if all goes as planned, ill take my exam aug24th.

that's the plan atleast.
Thats pretty much my plan as of day by day exactly...

Im on a DIT day 9 right now - pretty usefull.
Finishing UW today (last 100q left) with 69% overall

Did NBME 2 offline - got pretty good score, but thats just for self assurance - NBME 2 online does not predict or mean anything...

Giving NBME 4 on August 7-8

I am so tired of these steps, so all I want is to pass higher than my step 1 and get my license
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Thats pretty much my plan as of day by day exactly...

Im on a DIT day 9 right now - pretty usefull.
Finishing UW today (last 100q left) with 69% overall

Did NBME 2 offline - got pretty good score, but thats just for self assurance - NBME 2 online does not predict or mean anything...

Giving NBME 4 on August 7-8

I am so tired of these steps, so all I want is to pass higher than my step 1 and get my license
word, im on DIT day 8
so our plans look very similar

all im trying to do is get a step 2 score higher than my step 1 score.
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word, im on DIT day 8
so our plans look very similar

all im trying to do is get a step 2 score higher than my step 1 score.

Hey guys! Im planning on doing DIT as well, and since ya'll are already on it, i was just wondering- did you guys get the new 2013 DIT? I have the 2011 version and wondering whether i should just stick to that or pay for the new one? Would appreciate your input
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I'm using DIT where Jenkins goes over Step Up to CK 2nd edition
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Hey guys! Im planning on doing DIT as well, and since ya'll are already on it, i was just wondering- did you guys get the new 2013 DIT? I have the 2011 version and wondering whether i should just stick to that or pay for the new one? Would appreciate your input
the answer to these kind of questions is always no, dont pay for the newer version.

very little change, if any, in these sources from year to year.
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Relieved I'm back to scoring in the low 70s again. My UW scores are all over the place though. From 50s to 70s. Weird.

If you're feeling burnt out, listening to music when transitioning from UW to the books or visa versa is perfect. I still get high on trance so it works for me at least.
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I keep working full time and I a mentally FUBAR already... Cant wait to be done with this test.

Finished UW today with 68. For the last month was scoring 64-75.
Going to buy another subscription tomorrow and start over again.

Pretty much its a learning tool, so its great if you can score 85% the first time around, but scoring that on a second time will also be great as you get your concepts rock solid...

Also thinking on geting UW subject review for stats as its $25 only...
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Just finished UWSA with a 230. Exam is on August 29th. I honestly thought I had failed it, now I know what people feel like when they say that the exam is so vague....you have no idea what the heck you did. I still have a little over four weeks, going to use the score report to work on my weak points. Have already finished Uworld twice, redoing it for the third time. A part of me wants to bump up my exam and take it earlier, but not sure if that's a wise idea. Just really happy with this score. Was feeling really demotivated last couple days and thought I had run into a dead end with my preparation. This score is the boost I needed to go on for the next few weeks. Good luck to all of us! We can do this!!

Also how close is the UWSA approximation to the real score?
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