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Hi every one. I have seen very few people attempt Kaplan Qbank for CK, hence very less info on what's a good score on it. For all those who have completed the q bank, can you guys post your scores here please. I have finished it and will start UW in a bit, but just want to see how is a 68 on kap q bank.
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I got only 50% on Kaplan Qbank and is getting 60% on UW Qbank. My exam is in 3 wks
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So how is UW compared to kap q bank? Easier? I know its way better but what's the difficulty level compared to kap q bank?
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So how is UW compared to kap q bank? Easier? I know its way better but what's the difficulty level compared to kap q bank?
Kaplan questions seem longer. No comment about level of dificulty.
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so far my average is 61%, Would of been 64% if it wernt for one block i practically went brain dead on. But clearly this qbank is alot more difficult than uworlds. Just as you said the questions stems are about a couple of lines longer. There is also very important details in those lines that are important to answer the questions in the qbank. Also in order to answer the questions from qbank, it requires people to think in multiple steps.

I also find kaplan's qbank to be heavily focused on electrolyte imbalances. Some of the more difficult questions i would expect on the usmle to show up.
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JJtheMD are you done with UW? Or are you doing both simultaneously? How much are you scoring on UW?
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I've finished 41% of the questions on kaplan qbank, so far my score is 59%, all timed and random. IMO, this qbank is really underrated on this forum because I'm finding it very helpful and filled with challenging and high yield questions. I don't get all the obsession with UWorld, but I'm planning to take it as soon as I finish Kaplan qbank.
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Yeah I also feel this bank is very underrated, UW is the best no doubt but this bank has its own utility.
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Hy guys, I have finished kaplan qbank, average 62%. Read a lot about Kaplan qbank being low-yield, bad learning tool and so on. Gonna start uworld soon.
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kaplan Qbank: 64%, did first half of it at the very beginning of prep, just to get a feel of questions, the cardio questions were good extra practice for me, but kaplan goes into excessive detail on derm, and has really rare syndromes as answer choices

UW: 76%

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btw is one month enough to cover the qbank
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Yeah one month is enough
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Does the qbank overlaps in questions with qbook or are they completely different?
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Does the qbank overlaps in questions with qbook or are they completely different?
No they are completely different, besides the qbook questions are a lot easier.
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i did mtb2 then have done kaplan qbank and got 51%..i dont know how is it?
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Just finished 20% of the qbank now and currently my average sits at 64%. I have no idea if this is good or not. I find it so strange how i can have an occasional flop in one block and score in the 50's. The majority of my blocks are within the 64-70. With a one block being an 80 and one block being a 50

did uworld first, got around the 60's througout a period from october-june, currently second round doing it random and unused getting 73% with only 38 percent remaining.
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Let me share my own experience with you. I was in the same boat as you guys when I started my ck prep a year back . Right from the outset I had my eyes set on getting a good score but I had no idea on how to proceed. What I did know from my step 1 prep was that doing as many questions as possible doesn't hurt in these exams. So I decided to do two Q Banks instead of limiting myself to one, despite the frustrating lack of any prior experiences of using Kaplan QBank from upperclassmen and in online forums.

My Experience with Kaplan QBank:

This was the first QBank that i did. I felt it was best to leave USMLEWorld for last because almost everyone seemed to suggest it was very representative of the actual exam and also that the UWorld cumulative % had a strong correlation with the final exam score.
Coming from step 1 I found the difficulty curve of the question bank to be fairly steep, both in terms of actual content and length. The length in particular was more difficult to adjust to at first. This might have been because I had gotten in the habit of reading questions really slowly in step 1. Now step 1 questions are rarely any longer than 3 to 4 lines and you can afford to go slow in that test. In fact you are better off doing it that way because that reduces the chance of reading errors and also gives you time to double check for any "twist" in the question. CK on the other hand really tests your ability to quickly read through the question stem, filtering the important info out as you go along while wasting little to no time in re-reading/double checking. This, to the extent that I even felt overuse of the highlight feature, another habit I had picked up from Step 1, was holding me back in CK blocks. Anyway, I ran into a few problems in my initial blocks, even missing upto 5 questions in one, out of a total of 44, because I ran out of time. I made appropriate adjustments afterwards but even then I never felt I had the luxury of time on my side while doing QBank blocks (unlike UWorld) right until the very end, a situation I faced in the actual exam as well but more on that later.
My overall percentage initially was hovering around the 61% mark and the range was from 50 to 66%. This had me really worried because I was used to having a mid 80's percentage in Uworld for Step 1 ( The only QBank I had done for that exam). It later on improved a little bit but not enough to allay my fears. So 1 month into the QBank, with my percentage still around 64% in 16 blocks, I decided to buy a Uworld subscription as well. I had bought the year long subscription of Kaplan Qbank btw, so I wasnt worried about the subscription running out and was doing it along with my read. My initial cumulative percentage in Uworld was around 76%. While I don't think the difference in difficulty levels between the two question banks is as great as the difference in percentage shows, I certainly think Uworld offered a lot more freebies compared to Kaplan. Having said that the higher order questions in Uworld are still extremely difficult and some blocks really feel like a kick in the groin.
So I did Uworld for a while, and when I thought I had started to slack off I switched back to Kaplan, then reverted back to Uworld again and then back to Kaplan.... and this back and forth b/w the two question banks continued right uptill my exam. It was a very haphazard way of going about things and I ended up taking a lot more time to get over the two of them than i would have if I had consistently done one qbank and then shifted over to the other. I believe Uworld is also partly to blame here because sometimes the percentage you get in a block is so ridiculously high that it takes some doing to get you off that high Its only after a while you realize that you are going to encounter some ridiculous peaks and equally absurd troughs in results during the course of the question bank, because this is just the way the algorithm for drawing questions in the qbanks is written, either intentionally or unintentionally. Ergo these results should just be taken in stride instead of letting them get to your head.

My Final Overall Percentages and Exam Result:

Kaplan Qbank - 66%
UWorld - 77%

NBMEs: (Taken in this order and within one month of each other, midway through prep)
NBME 4 - 239
NBME 3 - 246
NBME 2 - 232

Kaplan Diagnostic Exam- Old 75 %, Updated - 80%

Kaplan Simulated Exam 1 (Two weeks from exam) - 75 %

UWSA (1 week from exam) - 254

Final CK Score - 248


What Helped :

I thought Kaplan Qbank really prepared me for the length of questions I was going to encounter in the final exam, something which Uworld doesnt prepare you for at all. In Uworld I used to have atleast 10 minutes or slightly less remaining on first pass, in almost all the blocks I did. I used to comfortably review all my marked questions. In Kaplan quite often I barely had time to go over two or three of the marked qs at end . (Something that compelled me to develop the habit of writing down the question number on the whiteboard of the one or two marked questions I felt I had a really good shot at solving, if I spent a little bit more time on them). In the actual exam I barely had time to complete my blocks and in the few blocks that I did manage to eke out some time I only went back to review that one question whose number I had written on my whiteboard.
I would also like to mention the Kaplan Simulated Exam in this regard. It is a full length 9 hour test, with 8 blocks and 46 questions in every block (as opposed to the normal 44 question blocks in Qbanks). It really tests your endurance for this beast of an exam , especially if you can somehow manage to take all of it in a single day ( i.e simulate the actual test environment). Its content, though, is good only in patches. Many questions are quite good and thought provoking, while some questions are so ridiculously picky, its hilarious. For instance I remember there was question asking me about the probability of transmission to a baby of a common genetic disease (that i'm not going to name here) which has non- mendelian inheritance (i.e is not autosomal/sex-linked recessive/dominant) To cut a long story short, the test is good for evaluating your endurance and timing for the big day but the result doesn't tell you a lot about your final score.

What didn't help:

I thought the content of Kaplan QBank was good only in patches much like the simulated exam and from what I've read this is a recurring problem with all of Kaplan's Qbanks. You regularly come across questions that are so esoteric it almost feels as if the writers were feeling a little lazy and decided to formulate an entire question around some arcane disease they had plucked out from deep within the medicine books, or some obscure medical fact that you have no chance in hell of knowing. But if you plow through rubbish like that there are some really high yield gems lying in there as well. To give you an idea I had atleast 2 questions on my exam that i felt i couldn't have answered if I hadnt done Kaplan QBank, the same number as Uworld. I am talking obviously about the really difficult/ higher order questions.
Another gripe I had with Qbank is that it had no Drug Ad/ Abstract questions at all! Infact the whole Biostatistics section was very weak, almost non-existent. Since these new type of questions are a major cause of anxiety among first time ck test takers, I feel this is a pretty major oversight by the writers.
Uworld too is not without fault in this regard. I was really banking on the Uworld to highlight my deficiencies and weaknesses so that I could work on them individually. One area where Uworld absolutely failed to do this was ethics. The ethics questions in Uworld are such that you can solve them with common sense and without any formal preparation. This is highly misleading, because the actual exam questions were pretty difficult in my opinion and I could have done well to brush up on that subject a little more. My final score report also showed ethics to be my weakest area, with my performance almost in the lower zone.

Final Thoughts:

I have to admit I was a bit letdown by my final score as I had dropped nine points from my step 1 score of 257. My UWSA score had also raised my hopes prior to the exam because I had seen quite a few people in my acquaintance outscoring their predicted UWSA by fair margins. So do I think QBank helped me or not? Well, it is difficult to say really.On one hand I presonally feel QBank really prepared me for questions with long stems which came in handy on exam day. On the other i've read about a lot of people getting better scores preparing only with Uworld. Presumably because focusing on only one qbank allows you to learn the concepts within it really well, as opposed to having your attention spread out over two qbanks. Also keep in mind that none of the qbanks are 100% representative of the actual exam. This along with the fact that new changes are being introduced to the exam fairly regularly, some of which the questions banks are not even keeping up with, means that you are riding a fair amount of luck in the actual exam and you are better served by not delaying the exam incessantly/ getting over it as soon as possible.

Final Verdict:
Do Kaplan QBank if you are a slow reader and are not confident in your ability to finish blocks on time. Otherwise stick to Uworld if you want to keep your preparation focused.

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So everyone, any progress reports?

I started this Qbank 3 days ago. 10% done so far. Trying to do 2 random, unused blocks per day. So far I've managed a 68, 80, 64, 82 and 75. Finding it quite interesting. UWorld average was just about scraping 70 on first pass.
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So everyone, any progress reports?

I started this Qbank 3 days ago. 10% done so far. Trying to do 2 random, unused blocks per day. So far I've managed a 68, 80, 64, 82 and 75. Finding it quite interesting. UWorld average was just about scraping 70 on first pass.
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Cheers mate. Lets hope the momentum lasts. Do scores tend to fluctuate wildly on this? How are you faring?
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I'd give a credit for Kaplan to teach you how to read fast and skip over diluted nonsense, but the Kaplan doctrine remains the same: trip the student over some crazy detailed facts out of the blue to make the student read the explanation and learn from it...
I do not like that at all.
If you have time to do both Kaplan and UW - I'd recomend to do Kaplan first
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Cheers mate. Lets hope the momentum lasts. Do scores tend to fluctuate wildly on this? How are you faring?
My average is 61% at the moment with my highest score being 88% and my lowest score being 48% so yeah I guess scores do fluctuate widely on this one. There are also some weird questions like for example there is this question about the contraindications to the smallpox virus vaccine and no pregnancy was not one of the options, so I didn't even bother reading the explanation fuuuuu
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My average is 61% at the moment with my highest score being 88% and my lowest score being 48% so yeah I guess scores do fluctuate widely on this one. There are also some weird questions like for example there is this question about the contraindications to the smallpox virus vaccine and no pregnancy was not one of the options, so I didn't even bother reading the explanation fuuuuu
I believe you. Just encountered one of those WTF blocks myself. 59%! I read the words 'sulfur colloid scan' and 'anti glutamic acid decarboxylase antibodies' for the first time ever.
Guess we just have to wade through the bullshit.
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seriously infections questions on kln q bank suk....scored so bad gave me depression!!
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Did you find it easy or hard? Surprisingly I got an 82% and it felt very much easier than the diagnostic for step 1 which destroyed me with a 55%. Well, we'll see how the qbank goes...
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Anyone taken the full length Kaplan sim exams? I'm doing the first one today. 9 hours! Phew. I think I'm fatigued just by the thought of it.
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Anyone taken the full length Kaplan sim exams? I'm doing the first one today. 9 hours! Phew. I think I'm fatigued just by the thought of it.
Well, so I panicked. 2.5 blocks in and I decided I'd had it. Too many WTF questions. Felt like I was marking every second one (about 20 per block). Lots of guesses. Not to mention every block had about 46-47 questions and I was barely finishing them on time. So I ended up skipping the rest of the questions to see how I had done and lo and behold it wasn't quite the massacre I had been expecting. 74% in the first block, 72% in the second..17/21 in the third.
Now that I've wasted this exam, not sure if I should do the other one or just do 2 more NBMEs instead. These are quite demoralizing. Although they help with developing speed I suppose.
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I finished Kaplan Qbank with 58%
felt that it was 50% good stuf and 50% random useless facts for a trivia in an Albuquerque Bar quiz.

They used to be easier if you look on some threads on SDN from back in 2007-2009 and UW was always right on spot, so folks in Kaplan decided to compete with UW just by raising their difficulty in Kaplan questions.

Plus Kaplan doctrine is to make you fail the question.
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Because you get depressed and start studying harder and read the question explanations.
As said by Dr. Dunn - physiology teacher in Kaplan.

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what were your peds percentage at the end?
i am almost done with the qbank n i have a cumulative average of 67 till now...
but my peds is way off compared to the rest subjects at 56..
n what to study for peds..i have covered kaplan once n done mtb 2 n 3 both like twice..so idk where i went wrong with that
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Hi qbank people!

Have any of you used the kaplan CK qbook? (not the qbank questions)

Is the 2010 edition too old for using alongside UW? Will I find errors in management/treatment or outdated information? I know the explanations are not to be compared in quality...

Also, I saw all the question book and bank polls and offline books vs online qbanks.

I was hoping to pick up some more questions on obgyn, psych and peds, and feel that UW is fantastic but want some more HY question topics on this.

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I finished kaplan at 64% NBME score is 440/225 exam is in three months. I'll start UWorld next
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I agree about infectious did it on 46% or something like that
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anybody using Kaplan lecture notes ,pls share u are using, I saw some 2013edirion in market. is there any differenc from 2012 / 2011 edition
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anybody using Kaplan lecture notes ,pls share u are using, I saw some 2013edirion in market. is there any differenc from 2012 / 2011 edition
I wonder the same. And also is there any difference between 2008-2009 version and 2013-2014 version. I am starting CK prep and the only Kaplan Lecture Notes available in my country are 2008-2009 version. My friends who have passed (they scored around 240s) and those who are preparing for this exam also use 2008-2009 version.

So my questions are
1 Is there any big difference between Kaplan LN 2008-2009 version and 2013-2014 version?
2 Is it worth it to order a 2013-2014 version online (because it costs a lot ) or is it ok to stick with the 2008-2009 version?

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I wonder the same. And also is there any difference between 2008-2009 version and 2013-2014 version. I am starting CK prep and the only Kaplan Lecture Notes available in my country are 2008-2009 version. My friends who have passed (they scored around 240s) and those who are preparing for this exam also use 2008-2009 version.

So my questions are
1 Is there any big difference between Kaplan LN 2008-2009 version and 2013-2014 version?
2 Is it worth it to order a 2013-2014 version online (because it costs a lot ) or is it ok to stick with the 2008-2009 version?

Many thanx in advance, guys.
to be honest It depends on your background, from my experience with friends doing the exam (I didnt do it yet) is only MTB and questions thats what Im doing MTB plus UW kaplan usmleconsult then assess your self with an NBME and see
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to be honest It depends on your background, from my experience with friends doing the exam (I didnt do it yet) is only MTB and questions thats what Im doing MTB plus UW kaplan usmleconsult then assess your self with an NBME and see
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I started with a 158 on NBME 4 with no advanced prep. I am going to purchase this qbank and UW. Is the kaplan qbank updated to reflect similar explanations like UW?

Also, people mentioned the diagnostic test. Is it similar to how the real NBME performance outcomes are? I'm just trying to plan my starting ground for this exam and have to take it in 3 months.
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