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I am an IMG, got the results for my CS yesterday. And i failed the ICE component. I am soo depressed. I can't concentrate on anything.I wake up in the middle of the night staring at the ceiling. I have still to take my CK. Anyone who hears this is shocked as well. I was doing a clinical rotation at a university hospital for 3 months. The professor liked me so much that he directly recommended me to the program director. I talked to her and she told me she would surely call me for an interview. I thought of taking my CS while in US. The medical students there told me i would surely pass since i spoke very well and also had the experience with american patients. I had practiced for a month with my sister until i was confident. I still don't know what went wrong.

My step 1 score is just 225. And now I am sure they are not gonna call me for the interview in that hospital i rotated. or any other hospital for that matter.. I just wanna give up.
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I'm really sorry to hear that, but please know that you are not the only one, trust me I heard a lot of failures even some AMG's dont pass first time so dont be shocked it was just bad luck probably. dont think about it too much now if u failed in ICE just concentrate on which areas can be improved & go for the exam one more time. Make a plan if doing CS before CK is better or otherwise. Focus on one exam finish it off & then think about the next one. it would be much easier for u to pass next time cause u know what to expect from the patient encounters. Dont worry its just a matter of few months You can still kick both CS & CK out of your way & make it to residency, I'm also waiting for my CS results & havent been focusing very much on CK due to long waiting. But I'm ready for everything. I really wish you good luck for your residency just get up again & knock out these stupid tests.
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Thank you so much for your kind words. A little bit of encouragment is what I need right now. Enough of sulking. I just need to sink it in and focus on step 2 CK.

Best of luck for your CS result. I am sure you're gonna come up with flying colors.
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i am really sorry u did not pass the CS exam. hepevirus has said it all, i pray that u would nail it next time cos i believe that u have everything to excel in it cos ur resolve to move on says it all. pls don't doubt yourself, u are built for this. God bless!
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Hey man..i also failed cs in ice component..Dont panic..I Cleared the cs in next attempt...I can imagine hw much pain n agony u goin this time but believe that wont help..Just begin to concentrate and write full examination in ice component like chest abd,cvs etc..and u wil rock the nxt time...
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I'm an IMG, old grad, got my results last week and I failed on ICE. The other 2 were pretty high.I thought ICE is my strongest one, becouse I finished all the PNs, all the PEs and left every room 1-2 minutes early.Only think I used abreviations from UW and FA eg A AND O X 3, BS + 4 Q, ets and maybe asked less amount of questions and jump ti ds very soon?
Could you please give me any advice, what to improve beside this.
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I haven't received my score yet, but one of my friends was in the same situation. He left CS feeling confident, especially about ICE. So after thinking about it he ended up realizing he forgot to do crucial physical exams on patients. Ex: A patient with dizziness/hearing loss/syncope requires a full neuro work up. Maybe that happened with you too? I highly doubt you didn't pass because of abbreviations used...everyone uses aaox3 and +bs.
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Actually in my dizziness case I missed entire neuro and put vasovagal syncope and cardiac arrhytmia, followed by full cardio pe and HEENT, and I forgat to do ear exam on hearing loss case, but I put that on my PN .I think you are totally right, Thanks a lot
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This thread practically guarantees that I failed. I had two lightheaded cases, but I didn't have a chance to do a Neuro exam on either of them. The OP made this mistake with just one patient, and he failed. I made this mistake on two different patients. I am so depressed right now. I can't study for my CK at all.

My only hope is that one of those two cases is dropped.
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I've heard of people that mess up a physical exam for the CC and still passed.
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I think when people say they messed up multiple PEs, they mean that they had multiple incomplete PEs. Meaning that they did the pulmo exam, but forgot anterior chest. Or they did the cardio exam, but forgot to do JVD and PMI displacement.

Forgetting/ not having time for the entire system is like the kiss of death. You don't get credit for the PE, you lose points on the PN, it affects your differential, and then affects your workup. The only saving grace, is if the case is experimental, and thus doesn't count.

I am royally screwed. Can i sign up for it again? Or do I have to wait for my failed score?

thanks in advance for any info.
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hopefully people that passed can post some of the major mistakes they made!
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I think when people say they messed up multiple PEs, they mean that they had multiple incomplete PEs. Meaning that they did the pulmo exam, but forgot anterior chest. Or they did the cardio exam, but forgot to do JVD and PMI displacement.

Forgetting/ not having time for the entire system is like the kiss of death. You don't get credit for the PE, you lose points on the PN, it affects your differential, and then affects your workup. The only saving grace, is if the case is experimental, and thus doesn't count.

I am royally screwed. Can i sign up for it again? Or do I have to wait for my failed score?

thanks in advance for any info.
Don't be so pessimistic about your exam, you'll probably get some credit although not full credit on those case. And if you get a good note and did well on the other cases that might be enough to compensate. Remember that you need only 65% to pass on ICE..
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I appreciate your optimism. Everyone is very kind on this forum.



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Don't be so pessimistic about your exam, you'll probably get some credit although not full credit on those case. And if you get a good note and did well on the other cases that might be enough to compensate. Remember that you need only 65% to pass on ICE..
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I appreciate your optimism. Everyone is very kind on this forum.
By the way, I'm being extremelly realistic! What I also notice is that most of the people who failed were didn't know how to recognise their own mistakes. Since you're aware of what went wrong with you, this tells me that you have a good self-awareness and consequently had a good preparation for this test. You see? You know that you were not perfect because you probably practiced enough to reconize that.. Well, but let's wait and you'll tell me later that I'm right and you'll pass with flying colors..
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[im am sorry that you did not pass. do not let this affect your studies for step 2ck. the cs is a tricky exam , meaning that ou need to accumulate those points!! my cousin had difficulty with the cs, but he practiced and took a 2 day curse and passed the cs with no problem. i can find out the name of the program if you want?

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Dont worry, I am sure you will pass next time Shannon. Dont give up, this is just a minor obstacle! Rock your CK and you shall be fine!
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I did fail as well, ICE component, I am studying for CK now, but I am confused, should I retake the C.S ASAP or just finish CK first?

I did everything, but the PE was done very quick to have time for the counseling, I passed the other 2 components with high performance

I admit that I did not spend enough time practicing PE
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I did fail as well, ICE component, I am studying for CK now, but I am confused, should I retake the C.S ASAP or just finish CK first?
Depends, are you trying to match for 2014 or 2015? If 2014, I suggest you just get your CK done and out of the way so you have your grades close to the time they will be reviewing your application.

But if 2015, why not just take CS again since it is not that long ago and you can hurdle that obstacle right now and get it out of the way for good, rather than leaving the bad taste in your mouth from failing? Then you can climb the CK mountain another time in the future when your mind is focused on it.

Either way, good luck to you, I am sure you will pass your CK as well as your CS on your next attempt!
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Depends, are you trying to match for 2014 or 2015? If 2014, I suggest you just get your CK done and out of the way so you have your grades close to the time they will be reviewing your application.

But if not, why not just take CS again since it is not that long ago and you can hurdle that obstacle right now and get it out of the way for good, rather than leaving the bad taste in your mouth from failing?

Either way, good luck to you, I am sure you will pass your CK as well as your CS on your next attempt!
Thank you for the reply, I do not think I will make it in 2014 since I have not finished CK or CS yet, so probably I will retake the CS as you said since it is only few weeks since I took the test, and it should not take that long to prepare compared to CK
and hopefully I can find a research position or non-ACGME fellowship till the next match.
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Sounds like a good plan. Even though you failed, there's no reason to put your studying for the CS to waste! You studied for it and it is good to put that knowledge back to use while its relatively fresh, rather than shift to another focus, and then come back to CS later. You will be fine now that you got the anxiety out of the way and have already gone through the whole craziness once.
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thanks for the encourage, but I am trying to reschedule the CS but it does not go through, should I wait couple days till the system is updated ?

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me too failed CS, got result today, i didnt prepared much, i had taken kaplan practice test, they had given me yellow (borderline on CIS and ICE) and I failed in both of these, I must have taken more time, and prepared well. anyway, i dont care for it
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Iím so sorry about what has happened to and probably it is the fear that has taken a toll on you! Iím sure this experience would only make you stronger! May be you can come back and share your experience about passing the test later!
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I am an IMG, got the results for my CS yesterday. And i failed the ICE component. I am soo depressed. I can't concentrate on anything.I wake up in the middle of the night staring at the ceiling. I have still to take my CK. Anyone who hears this is shocked as well. I was doing a clinical rotation at a university hospital for 3 months. The professor liked me so much that he directly recommended me to the program director. I talked to her and she told me she would surely call me for an interview. I thought of taking my CS while in US. The medical students there told me i would surely pass since i spoke very well and also had the experience with american patients. I had practiced for a month with my sister until i was confident. I still don't know what went wrong.

My step 1 score is just 225. And now I am sure they are not gonna call me for the interview in that hospital i rotated. or any other hospital for that matter.. I just wanna give up.
Hey buddy! My step 1 score is 225. Step 2 is 231. Passed CS in 2nd attempt/ Applied this year. Had electives at Cornell and UT. I have a lot of sympathy for you since we share the same Step 1 marks. One step at a time. One day at a time. Retake your CS. Score good in CK ( >250) and I am sure you will match.
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Hi Shannon

I have the same situation here, My step1 score 223, failed CS first attempt this June, 2013
Now I am preparing for CK
Failing CS was a real Shock for me too, because I don't know what to improve.. and also thinking about it worsens studying efficasy, I should stop thinking about that and concentrate on CK exam I guess
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Hey sorry to hear about you guys not making through cs. Hope u guys don't lose hope and give your exam again. Wanted to know which center you have your cs exam at.
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I failed cs with expert consult cs service definitely not worth it
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I am an IMG and I failed my CS exam today in the ICE component. this is my first USMLE exam and failing in that has crushed me. is it worth giving the rest of the USMLE exams as i have read that most of the universities want students who have not failed in any of the exams and dont even give an interview date if you have failed in any of them. also i wanted to ask should i apply for re-evaluation for the CS. please help me!
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