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Unhappy Failed! So depressed...

Got The Score Today... FAIL! yes I don't believe it.
Passed the CIS and SEP and FAIL ICE!?

Im so Depressed...

Took the Test in LA 20th January
Step1 85
Step2CK 99
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Default Understanding and being supportive...

Well, I am a great supporter of the idea that sharing our failures is as important as sharing our victories (or even more...), because such an attitude pertains particular educational aspects for everybody.

In this context, first of all I would like to empathize with you, dear ibur, and encourage you to take the exam again, asap.

Secondly, I would also like to share, in my turn, my personal failure in CS. The problem is that I have managed to do something out of the ordinary!!! I have failed the Communications & Interpersonal Skills part (CIS), and more particularly only the Professional Manner & Rapport subcategory.

I have to admit that I am a little bit frustrated, not due to the failure itself, but mainly because I cannot recall where I have disqualified the CS standards concerning professionalism. I have put on gloves, I have been compassionate and optimistic for the pt's problem, I have correctly used pt's name, I have addressed their inquiries and answered their questions in every single case, I have even offered a tissue and a chair in two instances among them.

I am really confused, so any help from the members of this forum would be gratefully accepted and thoroughly processed.
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Default This exam is all about mental preparedness

I am sorry that your Step 2 Cs live exam outcomes were not favorable but I hope this bit of information helps.
Each case has a set of points that must be addressed. There are also points that if you address, you do not get credit, as well if you ask a question that is irrelevant you loose points. These points change, from time to time.
For the five things, you did well only one may have been a gradable point. Do not beat yourself up wondering where you went wrong because ECFMG/NBME will not tell you; only give you a vague scatter graph.
Remember this too; when you enter the exam room, the SP does not know where you are from, where you went to medical school, or anything about you. Your first interaction sets the tone for the encounter. Therefore, it is wise to practice your opening!
I have seen non-US born candidates who went to school in the USA fail this exam as much as the US born who went to school out of North America.
This exam is not easy, that is a fact. Proper prep, practice, and I mean practice is the best remedy.
I spent many years at ECFMG. I have seen candidates who lost their lunch in an encounter, and candidates who diagnosed Gout in 2 minutes.
Just remember, you went to medical school, you are qualified, you are properly trained!!!
Best of luck to you!!!
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Default ... Still Depressed ...

I'm sorry to read about your failure too.

This test is so unpredictable and subjective that I don't know where to start again. I was counting on passing this test so that I could still make it to the Scramble and maybe get one position... Now I will probably have to wait another year! come on! unless I pass before Residency starts which makes it more difficult due time constrains and stress.

Has anyone done a quick course or course that's recommended?

Any insight on the test and center is welcome.
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Default Failed CS..depressed

Our site will show you the proper way to question and work with an SP. To communicate better you need to have confidence in your presentation. We break up the encounters so you can practice the DD then the PE. By watching our doctors present the DD you will gain the extra confidence to enhance your DD skills. Check out our sticky thread and look at the you tube demo. If you want a subscription shorter then a month let me know. I will work with you to help you succeed in your exam. I spent time while at ECFMG working with the SP trainers. I can take your questions back to our doctors and get you the answers you need.
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Default csevideo wants to help you

HI,

We are sorry to hear about your results, please send an email to csevideos@aol.com and we will give you a very special discounted package to ensure your passing your exam on the next attempt. Please note we are not attempting to compete with any other program, since our inception we have offered students a free membership if they did not pass and need support and encouragement. In addition we have an annual scholarship program for our services set up for students in need.

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Default Thank You Angelo

Thanks... See the trouble is that I don't have any problem communicating as I did excel on SEP and Pass in CIS. But to the Colleagues rating the PN and the SP rating the questions seems to them that fail.

I really don't need any intermediary between SP and Doctors? I need some one to teach me how to do a PN??? and ask questions? can you believe that?

I Think this test really needs to be more standardized and less subjective.
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I know where you are coming from but the only way to standardize the test is to remove the SP...All the notes from all the centers go to Philadelphia. The docs grading the exams no nothing about you personally so from that stand point the grading is subjective. the notes need to be clean and conscise. The issue I have seen with many IMG's is that they speak in a staccato method. This is easy for me to say but you have to be fluid in delivery. You can be the sweetest most medically correct student but lose it in the delivery and this comes through in writing as well.

Send me your email in a private message and i will give you access to our site for free for 2 weeks. I can check the encounters you see and refer any medical questions to my advisory board who are all the board certified physicians you will see. Dr. Gee is from the University of Pennsylvania and his encounters are the ones you need to focus on.

Let me be clear. I am not a doctor, I did not write any of the encounters. but i do know the bias points of the exam and can give you information. At least it is a start.

Ron
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