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Hello all,

Found this forum on google. So I'm starting to prepare for a retake. I took CS twice before. First time around I was just completely unprepared. Took it in Chicago, and flanked pretty much everything, with Data Gathering, though bad, being my best performance. I took some review courses, and retook the exam in Philadelphia. I get extremely nervous during the exams, but I thought I did fine nevertheless. Still failed. This time around, it was the Data Gathering that I seem to have failed in every single station. Really cannot imagine how this is possible.

So does anyone have a clue what systematic mistake would get you to fail DG? I thought I was pleasant with all the SPs, presented myself, addressed them by name, draped them, expressed compassion (2-3 times for each encounter). The only thing that I can think of is that I wore gloves instead of washing hands. It just seemed faster, because it takes me a bit longer than most people to wash my hands.

The only other thing that bothered me at the time, were the SPs playing teenage girls. For some reason, they played being uncomfortable midway during the encounter, but wouldn't tell me if anything when I asked. Also, when I asked if I could examine them here or there, the obviously scripted answer was along the lines, "oh, sure, you can do whatever you want", but said in a really strange, kinda annoyed and defensive manner. Anyone had the same or has any idea on what it is they are trying to test by this, or how to handle it?

Thanks in advance!
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Let me ask you first,

Did you pass the the patient note and the CIS and the SEP?

It would be very helpful if you can upload your results (The PDF file) so that we can analyze together what's going on with you.
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Let me ask you first,

Did you pass the the patient note and the CIS and the SEP?

I would be very helpful if you can upload your results (The PDF file) so that we can analyze together what's going on with you.
Thanks for the reply. Yes, I passed those. I don't have my report handy, but it was above average for SEP and CIS, mostly above average for the patient note (with a few less than average, but passed this part overall), and pretty much all of the data gathering marks below average. So really, it seems like either my data gathering is lacking, or more like there is a systematic mistake somewhere in there.
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Thanks for the reply. Yes, I passed those. I don't have my report handy, but it was above average for SEP and CIS, mostly above average for the patient note (with a few less than average, but passed this part overall), and pretty much all of the data gathering marks below average. So really, it seems like either my data gathering is lacking, or more like there is a systematic mistake somewhere in there.
This is really puzzling.
Data gathering is about what questions and what examination procedures you have done relevant to the case. Most students (specially those who passed the CK like you) have no problem in that area of the CS exam.
I suggest you get a professional assessment from one of the CS courses to pinpoint your weak area.
The issues you mentioned in your initial post are all about CIS and SEP, which you are saying you passed, then it must be something else going wrong with you.
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Check out csevideo.com and you will become aware of all the elements you need to implement in order to master each section of the CS exam. Please send me an email at csevideos@aol.com and I can give you a discount on any membership you would like.
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Hi,
Check out csevideo.com and you will become aware of all the elements you need to implement in order to master each section of the CS exam. Please send me an email at csevideos@aol.com and I can give you a discount on any membership you would like.
Thank You
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Unfortunately I took cs last november and fail in ICE mainly PN because i did not have time to do a complete physical examination...I subscriped previously in CSE video ....My first question is:

How to use csevideo during my studying for second time cs exam ??

It's a powerful tool but i do not know how to study with it.

My second question is if i do clinical examination typically like csevideo cases i would pass ??Is it enough in real exam??





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HI,

Thank you for your response. There are two parts to csevideo. The first part is the videos and the patient notes that also include study guides for cases in each system. What you want to do is watch the video and then view the patient notes. The videos as you probably know by now they depict the actual exam, they are the closest depiction of what you will experience in the exam. The exam is about both your knowledge and your ability to act out your knowledge, as you watch our videos you will learn how to act in various scenarios such as, with an angry patient, a quiet patient, an acute case and much more.
I would recommend that you follow each step in the video with your first aid and then act out what you viewed and work towards mimicking our physician as much as possible. The videos also show you how to be patient with the sp and show empathy in each area. In addition, we underscore the professionalism required to pass the CS exam.

The second part of CSEVideo is the assessment exam. There are 12 mystery cases. You watch the video and then type a patient note in a timed page that depicts the timing and outline of the actual exam. Once you have completed typing your note you can view the actual note for that case and compare it. This gives you the opportunity to practice typing the note under timed conditions that simulate the actual exam, and helps you to understand the interaction in the case and learn to retrieve the pertinent information then transfer it to your note.

AS far as the physical exams, we set the videos up to show you how to do the complete physical exam quickly, efficiently and accurately, you can follow this outline and still complete the case on time with a passing score.
If you need additional, assistance please let me know
mycs@csevideo.com

Thank You
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