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Default Help me rank this programs please !

TEXAS TECH UNIV -LUBBOCK
MEHARRY MEDICAL COLLEGE-NASHVILLE, TN
TEXAS TECH UNIV-Amarillo
Newark Beth Israel Med Ctr-NJ
Howard Univ Hosp-DC
Brown Medical School/Memorial Hosp-RI
Woodhull Med Ctr-NY
Capital Health Regional Med Ctr-NJ
St Barnabas Med Ctr-NJ
Kingsbrook Jewish Med-NY
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TEXAS TECH UNIV -LUBBOCK
MEHARRY MEDICAL COLLEGE-NASHVILLE, TN
TEXAS TECH UNIV-Amarillo
Newark Beth Israel Med Ctr-NJ
Howard Univ Hosp-DC
Brown Medical School/Memorial Hosp-RI
Woodhull Med Ctr-NY
Capital Health Regional Med Ctr-NJ
St Barnabas Med Ctr-NJ
Kingsbrook Jewish Med-NY
I think you made a mistake in spelling. You listed HOWARD university it should be HARVARD right? And so I'd rank that one Numero uno
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Default 3 IM 3 FM interviews ..Will I match?

I was only able to get 6 interviews total this season 3 IM 3 FM..Can you advice me on how to rank? I am interested in doing IM so please advice.
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I think you made a mistake in spelling. You listed HOWARD university it should be HARVARD right? And so I'd rank that one Numero uno
No he listed the right program. There is a howard in DC and I think he has it fairly ranked.
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God dayum 20 IV? Wowwww UPMC number ONE!
That is not THE UPMC its the afiiliatiate which is nowhere near as good. I interviewed at UPMC mercy and that it was OK. I think he has it fairly ranked at 11 as well.
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GC, no location pref, IMG, leaning towards cards/GI.

SLR
UCSF Fresno
Lahey
Abington
Union Memorail MD

Any changes/ inputs highly appreciated.

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GC, no location pref, IMG, leaning towards cards/GI.

SLR
UCSF Fresno
Lahey
Abington
Union Memorail MD

Any changes/ inputs highly appreciated.

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1. UCSF Fresno - great university program, has both fellowships in-house
2. Lahey, rank higher if GI, but also has cards in-house (smaller pond than SLR, less competition for the competitive fellowships)
3. SLR
4. Abington vs Union
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1. UCSF Fresno - great university program, has both fellowships in-house
2. Lahey, rank higher if GI, but also has cards in-house (smaller pond than SLR, less competition for the competitive fellowships)
3. SLR
4. Abington vs Union
Abington is definitely a bit better than Union. I have a friend who recently finished residency there and is now a GI fellow and she has only wonderful things to say
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1 SUNY upstate
2 SUNY downstate
3 Jacobi
4 Florida Hospital Center
5 St John Medical Center, Detroit
6 Norwalk Hospital
7 St Barnabas NJ
8 Rochester General Hospital
9 Danbury Hospital, CT
10 UPMC Mercy, Pittsburgh
11 Presence St. Francis, Chicago
12 Nassau Univ Medical Center, NY
13 Rosalind Franklin University, School of Medicine, North Chicago
14 Brooklyn Hospital Center, NY
15 Jersey Shore University Medical Center, NJ
16. University of Nevada, Las Vegas
17 University of Connecticut, New Britain (Primary Care)
18 St Agnes, Baltimore
19 Howard University, Washington DC
20 Memorial Hospital of RI

Requirements: No need of visa, interested in cards or GI fellowship

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Your list looks pretty good. The top is correct. I would swap Downstate for Upstate at number 1 but that's a personal preference. Maybe consider Howard and UConn Primary a little bit higher. I think even PC at UConn would open more fellowship doors for you than some lower-tier community programs.
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Which one is better,

Woodhull, Harlem, Lincoln or Metropolitan.

All in NY
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Which one is better,

Woodhull, Harlem, Lincoln or Metropolitan.

All in NY
Harlem. Strictly based on facilities. I didn't interview there myself but I heard they're awesome! Besides that they're all NYC-commies. The fact that Linc doesn't interview is a pretty big red flag. Trust your gut!
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1. UCONN
2. UAMS
3. SUNY upstate
4. Medstar Washington
5. UTMB Galveston
6. SLR
7. COOK
8. SUNY DOWNSTATE
9. ETSU
10. Mt Sinai Elmhurst
11. Siu
12. Jersey shore
13. Presence st francis
14. Memorial hospital / mercer university savannah ga
15. St agnes
16. Maricopa
17. St peters
18. Robert packer Guthrie
19. Conemaugh
20. Redmond regional medical center
21. Monmouth
22. New York Methodist
23. Seton hall Elizabeth
24. Mercy st Vincent Toledo

No real location preference. leaning towards cardiology.. no visa requirements.
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Awesome list. NY meth should be ahead of st.peters as it has in house fellowships...
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Which one is better,

Woodhull, Harlem, Lincoln or Metropolitan.

All in NY
Harlem is better.
1.Harlem
2.Woodhull
3.Lincoln
4.Metropolitan
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Please comment on Woodhull. Why it is in 2nd place? Is it a decent program?
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Please comment on Woodhull. Why it is in 2nd place? Is it a decent program?
Actually, all of these programs are at the same level, and it would be difficult to rank them, so we should consider many factors. Harlem has GI, ID, Nephro fellow and in average is good. Woodhull is also an average program, but I consider to put Lincoln and Metro after that because of the very high scut work in Lincoln, and the very high rent in Manhattan for Metropolitan. sometimes all the programs you have are at the same level and you should consider other factors.So in these 4 programs, there is not any strong program, but these are average.
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1. UCONN
2. UAMS
3. SUNY upstate
4. Medstar Washington
5. UTMB Galveston
6. SLR
7. COOK
8. SUNY DOWNSTATE
9. ETSU
10. Mt Sinai Elmhurst
11. Siu
12. Jersey shore
13. Presence st francis
14. Memorial hospital / mercer university savannah ga
15. St agnes
16. Maricopa
17. St peters
18. Robert packer Guthrie
19. Conemaugh
20. Redmond regional medical center
21. Monmouth
22. New York Methodist
23. Seton hall Elizabeth
24. Mercy st Vincent Toledo

No real location preference. leaning towards cardiology.. no visa requirements.
help will be appreciated.
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Solid - You might want to consider putting Downstate above cook and Methodist significantly higher on the list given your cards preference.
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Guys help me rank this list. Interested in Heme/onc. Donot need visa. No geographical preference.

1. UAMS
2 .SUNY Upstate
3. ETSU
4. U CONN (Primary care track)
5. Western Michigan University Homer Stryker school of medicine, Kalamazoo
6. William Beaumont Hospital, Royal oak, MI
7. SOuthern Illinois Univ, Springfield
8. Medstar Washington Hospital Center, DC
9. Danbury, Connecticut
10. SIsters of charity, Catholic health system, buffalo, NY
11.Medstar Union memorial hospital
12. Unity Hospital, Rochester, NY
13. Medstar harbour hospital
14. UMMC midtown, baltimore
15. Metropolitan hospital, NYC, NY
16.St. Vincent, Worcester, MA
17. Presence st. Francis, Evanston
18.St. Peters university hospital, new brunswick, NJ
19. Ocala Health, Ocala, florida
20. Reading hospital, PA
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Guys help me rank this list. Interested in Heme/onc. Donot need visa. No geographical preference.

1. UAMS
2 .SUNY Upstate
3. ETSU
4. U CONN (Primary care track)
5. Western Michigan University Homer Stryker school of medicine, Kalamazoo
6. William Beaumont Hospital, Royal oak, MI
7. SOuthern Illinois Univ, Springfield
8. Medstar Washington Hospital Center, DC
9. Danbury, Connecticut
10. SIsters of charity, Catholic health system, buffalo, NY
11.Medstar Union memorial hospital
12. Unity Hospital, Rochester, NY
13. Medstar harbour hospital
14. UMMC midtown, baltimore
15. Metropolitan hospital, NYC, NY
16.St. Vincent, Worcester, MA
17. Presence st. Francis, Evanston
18.St. Peters university hospital, new brunswick, NJ
19. Ocala Health, Ocala, florida
20. Reading hospital, PA
seems like you are spoilt by the choices. order looks good as it is.
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Hi there, can someone help me rank these programs. I am really confused because they all seem similar. Any advice would be helpful. No preference for fellowship.

1. UPMC Mercy, PA
2. St. Barnabas, NJ
3. Seton Hall - Englewood, NJ
4. Univ of Iowa Des Moines, IA
5. Univ of Kansas Wichita, KS
6. Abington Hospital, PA
7. Advocate Masonic, IL
8. Oakwood Hospital, MI
9. UIC Urbana, IL
10. RFUMS Centegra, Mchenry, IL
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Help Help me decide these for my no 5,6,7

Thank you guys for helpiing me decided my top 4 .

How should I go about for Union memorial, Hopstra staten island , University of reno nevada.

I am am IMG inclined to cards/GI , no weather or location preference. Only need a good working env.

Please help me with my no 5,6,7.

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TEXAS TECH UNIV -LUBBOCK
MEHARRY MEDICAL COLLEGE-NASHVILLE, TN
TEXAS TECH UNIV-Amarillo
Newark Beth Israel Med Ctr-NJ
Howard Univ Hosp-DC
Brown Medical School/Memorial Hosp-RI
Woodhull Med Ctr-NY
Capital Health Regional Med Ctr-NJ
St Barnabas Med Ctr-NJ
Kingsbrook Jewish Med-NY
Beth Israel should go higher on the list. Brown too.
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Dear collegues, I'd like some help with ranking these programs
IMG/Need Visa/prefere family friendly area/Fellowship GI/Rheum if possible
Metrohealth Cleveland
Atlanta Medical Center
Texas Tech- Amarillo
Howard University
Metropolitan NYC
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Dear collegues, I'd like some help with ranking these programs
IMG/Need Visa/prefere family friendly area/Fellowship GI/Rheum if possible
Metrohealth Cleveland
Atlanta Medical Center
Texas Tech- Amarillo
Howard University
Metropolitan NYC
Thanks
If family friendly area includes you being able to visit friends/family or them coming to visit you sometimes, then Amarillo is a lil harsh being in the middle of no where. It's 4 hours from Oklahoma City airport, 5 hours from Dallas airport, 4 hours from Albuquerqe. Flights to Amarillo are going to be at least $300 extra on an average round trip. Also, if you are an immigrant and access to ethnic food, culture and community is important, that's another thing to look at.
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Thank you guys for helpiing me decided my top 4 .

How should I go about for Union memorial, Hopstra staten island , University of reno nevada.

I am am IMG inclined to cards/GI , no weather or location preference. Only need a good working env.

Please help me with my no 5,6,7.

Thank you once again.
Tough between 5, 6 and 7. Look at the place and may be a good airport to fly to?

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I think a good airport (number of flights and reasonable prices for those short getaways to meet friends and family) within 60 to 90 minutes driving distance is something most of us overlook. From personal experience, having lived in Midland, TX, that bland life after the busy intern year subsides shouldn't be a regret. Midland is like 5 hours away from Dallas, San Antonio airports, 4.5 from El Paso and 7 hours away from Houston airport.
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-Rosalind Franklin University
-Crittenton Hospital/Wayne state university
-Salem Hospital/Northshore medical center
-Rochester General Hospital
-St. Lukes Hospital/St. Louis
-AtlantiCare Medical Center

Need visa, I am interested in doing a fellowship but didn't decide which one yet and no area preference.


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Yeah hopefully someone helps me out.. Thanks for your input thou.
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Tough between 5, 6 and 7. Look at the place and may be a good airport to fly to?
Yeah hopefully some1 helps me out. thanks for the reply thou.
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Please help me rank my programs. No geographic preference, need visa, interested in fellowship, yet to decide which specialty.

1) SUNY Downstate
2) Morehouse School of Medicine / Grady
3) Marshfield Clinic
4) St Luke's Hospital, St Louis, MO
5) Florida State University at Sarasota
6) Charleston Area Medical Center / WVU
7) Howard University
8) Atlantic Health/Morristown Medical Center
9) Seton Hall - St Francis Medical Center, Trenton, NJ
10) Orange Park Medical Center
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Hi there, can someone help me rank these programs. I am really confused because they all seem similar. Any advice would be helpful. No preference for fellowship.

1. UPMC Mercy, PA
2. St. Barnabas, NJ
3. Seton Hall - Englewood, NJ
4. Univ of Iowa Des Moines, IA
5. Univ of Kansas Wichita, KS
6. Abington Hospital, PA
7. Advocate Masonic, IL
8. Oakwood Hospital, MI
9. UIC Urbana, IL
10. RFUMS Centegra, Mchenry, IL
1. Univ Iowa
2. Kansas
3. St Barnabas
4. Seton Hall
5. Abington
6-10. Not sure.
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1. Univ Iowa
2. Kansas
3. St Barnabas
4. Seton Hall
5. Abington
6-10. Not sure.
Thanks for the feedback.
So that means UPMC Mercy probably is not that good as I was thinking. They do have a level 1 trauma center and burn unit, so I thought its better than the other programs. But I agree Iowa, Kansas are better than the rest.
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Dear collegues, I'd like some help with ranking these programs
IMG/Need Visa/prefere family friendly area/Fellowship GI/Rheum if possible
Metrohealth Cleveland
Atlanta Medical Center
Texas Tech- Amarillo
Howard University
Metropolitan NYC
Thanks
Small cities are more family friendly than large cities. For fellowship J1 visa is better than H1b because many fellow programs don't sponsor H1b. The rheumato fellow is easy to get. so consider first and second ranks in the small cities which you had a better sense when you had an interview.
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So my list would look like (interested in cards and h1b)
CCF
UIOWA
Tufts
UAMS
Jacobi
Mount Sinai- Beth Israel
UTMB
Medstar washington
St elizabeth
Albany
East carolina Uni
Rochester general
SIU
UAB montgomery
Florida hospital
UI urbana
UM midtown

Any final thoughts or suggestions?
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So my list would look like (interested in cards and h1b)
CCF
UIOWA
Tufts
UAMS
Jacobi
Mount Sinai- Beth Israel
UTMB
Medstar washington
St elizabeth
Albany
East carolina Uni
Rochester general
SIU
UAB montgomery
Florida hospital
UI urbana
UM midtown

Any final thoughts or suggestions?
List looks great! You've interviewed at some amazing programs. If I were you I would rank Tufts at 1. It's a very competitive program, even for AMGs, and many who applied would not have received invites. And Boston is one of the best cities in the country! Many AMGs would not even consider applying for residency at CCF because it is fellow-driven and does not have a good reputation for the IM program.
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Maybe tufts number 1? Consider beth Israel lower ... Because of uncertainty... Certainly lower than utmb .. I think it should be utmb or wash Hospital f/b beth israel...
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So my list would look like (interested in cards and h1b)
CCF
UIOWA
Tufts
UAMS
Jacobi
Mount Sinai- Beth Israel
UTMB
Medstar washington
St elizabeth
Albany
East carolina Uni
Rochester general
SIU
UAB montgomery
Florida hospital
UI urbana
UM midtown

Any final thoughts or suggestions?
Tufts should be your number 1. CCF is a great program but its no secret that the fellowships are what make it great - the medicine residency is enormous and not as strong as the subspecialties. I would argue Iowa is stronger than CCF also. Given BI's uncertainty i would bring it down below washington hospital center.

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Tufts should be your number 1. CCF is a great program but its no secret that the fellowships are what make it great - the medicine residency is enormous and not as strong as the subspecialties. I would argue Iowa is stronger than CCF also. Given BI's uncertainty i would bring it down below washington hospital center.

Well done on the solid interview list.
Iowa is the strongest program in the list by a good margin..its also very very friendly...however its remote... + clout is not as much as tufts...tufts has tons of ivy league matches (owing to its strategic location) which ccf or iowa don't .....like upenn cardio , bidmc cardio ,mt.sinai cardio etc..its can life changing to get into those kind of fellowships... iowa and ccf are similar with matching...mainly upper-mid tier programs..due to tufts match list I d suggest tufts>iowa or ccf...
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Hi guys I am very confused and would appreciate any help in ranking these programs. please give reasons also if you can. i am interested in gastro or cardio fellowship in the future

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SLR
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Hi guys I am very confused and would appreciate any help in ranking these programs. please give reasons also if you can. i am interested in gastro or cardio fellowship in the future

west virginia university
SLR
lenox hill
albany
case western metrohealth
baystate

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captaincook, it's a real shame that you didn't get a Cook County invite, I think you would be perfect!

For GI/Cards it really helps to have in-house options as that is where roughly 50% (if not more) of IMG applicants tend to land for the competitive ones.

1. Metrohealth - great reputation attached to Case, small side for a university program
2. Lenox Hill - smaller university program, cool location
3. Baystate - see Metro, but with a less desirable location, for most people anyway
3.5 SLR - can consider ranking this above Baystate, enormous program = lots of competition for those in-house fellowships, but better location than Springfield
5. Albany
6. WVU

Best chance at GI/Cards as an IMG for you are Baystate, Albany, WVU. They're smaller programs with less in-house competition. However, they're also the 3 least desirable programs on your list. Metro and Lenox probably offer you the best of both worlds. SLR is has a great reputation too but the real drawback is the size of the class.
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So my list would look like (interested in cards and h1b)
CCF
UIOWA
Tufts
UAMS
Jacobi
Mount Sinai- Beth Israel
UTMB
Medstar washington
St elizabeth
Albany
East carolina Uni
Rochester general
SIU
UAB montgomery
Florida hospital
UI urbana
UM midtown

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The only thing I would make sure you know is that Boston is a really really expensive city to live in. CCF is definitely the best cards hospital in the world at the moment and if I was there I wouldn't want to go anywhere else for a cards fellowship lol. Keep that in mind before pushing it down
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So my list would look like (interested in cards and h1b)
CCF
UIOWA
Tufts
UAMS
Jacobi
Mount Sinai- Beth Israel
UTMB
Medstar washington
St elizabeth
Albany
East carolina Uni
Rochester general
SIU
UAB montgomery
Florida hospital
UI urbana
UM midtown

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In other words, graduate from CCF and guarantee a job anywhere. It is more internationally renowned especially for IMGs
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How would rank these? interested in GI/Cardio. no visa needed, no family.

1- University of Texas San Antonio (UTHSCSA)
2- Einstein Philly
3- UPMC Mercy
4- University of Central florida (Orlando)
5- Texas Tech Amarillo
I have the rest of list figured out.

I am confused between 1 and 2 any help?? thanks
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Friends please help me rank these programs.
All of these programs have fellowships . I am an IMG requiring Visa.
1. Cook county hospital ,chicago
2. Icahn St luke roosevelt, NY
3. Maimonides, NY
4. St john hospital, detroit
5. Suny downstate , NY
6 . Texas tech university , lubbock
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Appreciate any input. J1 considering fellowship, still undecided. Also, keep in mind I'm single and planning on dating during residency...Thank you!
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Friends please help me rank these programs.
All of these programs have fellowships . I am an IMG requiring Visa.
1. Cook county hospital ,chicago
2. Icahn St luke roosevelt, NY
3. Maimonides, NY
4. St john hospital, detroit
5. Suny downstate , NY
6 . Texas tech university , lubbock
Your list doesn't seem to be complete. Anyway, you can consider programs without fellowship too to rank, because all but two programs in your list are solid fellowship spot.

Your fellowship subj would affect your ranking but I would go as
6 > 5 >2 > 1=3 > 4

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UConn, UMass, Case Western/Metrohealth, SUNY Upstate, Methodist Houston, Medstar Washington and Lahey
UConn, UMass and Upstate would not have the best dating scenes, although all are good programs.

Lahey is in Burlington, a suburb of Boston.

For dating purposes:
1. Washington Hospital Center
2. Metrohealth
3. Lahey
4. Methodist
5. Upstate
6. UMass
7. UConn

For career purposes they're all about even with Lahey probably being the weakest just given the fact that it doesn't have all fellowships in-house
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Your list doesn't seem to be complete. Anyway, you can consider programs without fellowship too to rank, because all but two programs in your list are solid fellowship spot.

Your fellowship subj would affect your ranking but I would go as
6 > 5 >2 > 1=3 > 4

Good Luck Kluver-Bucy!
That's pretty good advice although I like SUNY Brooklyn over TT Lubbock
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UConn, UMass and Upstate would not have the best dating scenes, although all are good programs.

Lahey is in Burlington, a suburb of Boston.

For dating purposes:
1. Washington Hospital Center
2. Metrohealth
3. Lahey
4. Methodist
5. Upstate
6. UMass
7. UConn

For career purposes they're all about even with Lahey probably being the weakest just given the fact that it doesn't have all fellowships in-house
Dating scenes? Do people really factor that in when selecting a residency ?
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UConn, UMass and Upstate would not have the best dating scenes, although all are good programs.

Lahey is in Burlington, a suburb of Boston.

For dating purposes:
1. Washington Hospital Center
2. Metrohealth
3. Lahey
4. Methodist
5. Upstate
6. UMass
7. UConn

For career purposes they're all about even with Lahey probably being the weakest just given the fact that it doesn't have all fellowships in-house
u mean cleveland has a better dating scene than houston and boston ? if so it is certainly going to affect my rol..
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captaincook, it's a real shame that you didn't get a Cook County invite, I think you would be perfect!

For GI/Cards it really helps to have in-house options as that is where roughly 50% (if not more) of IMG applicants tend to land for the competitive ones.

1. Metrohealth - great reputation attached to Case, small side for a university program
2. Lenox Hill - smaller university program, cool location
3. Baystate - see Metro, but with a less desirable location, for most people anyway
3.5 SLR - can consider ranking this above Baystate, enormous program = lots of competition for those in-house fellowships, but better location than Springfield
5. Albany
6. WVU

Best chance at GI/Cards as an IMG for you are Baystate, Albany, WVU. They're smaller programs with less in-house competition. However, they're also the 3 least desirable programs on your list. Metro and Lenox probably offer you the best of both worlds. SLR is has a great reputation too but the real drawback is the size of the class.
Thank you so much for the detailed reply! Any reason for for ranking Albany above WVU though? I am very confused between these. Also, is metrohealth really this good? Im surprised, as I was thinking of ranking it last. I must have been grossly mistaken! Thanks again for he insightful reply. It has helped a lot!
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metro is a case university program..amgs often rank it ahead of ccf...

i d suggest lennox hill > metro...rest as suggested by elrond..

reason...match of lennox hill is better than metro... u mich cardio , mdacc hem onc , nyu gi

https://www.northwell.edu/research-a...pital/benefits

+ it is northwell..so highest salary...
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Any input would be great as to what you guys think of Memorial Hospital/Brown Uni? The fellowship match this year was great but the whole issue of Memorial hospital shutting down and residents scattered around 3 hospitals scared me ..
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u mean cleveland has a better dating scene than houston and boston ? if so it is certainly going to affect my rol..

I'm not too sure about Houston, I was basing that on the fact that people from southern states tend to get married younger than people in northern states. So unless you're shopping for someone else's husband or wife you'll have more options up north.

I ranked Cleveland higher than Burlington, only because it's not Boston proper. Being in Burlington doesn't close the door to the Boston scene but you wouldn't be immersed in it every day.
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Any input would be great as to what you guys think of Memorial Hospital/Brown Uni? The fellowship match this year was great but the whole issue of Memorial hospital shutting down and residents scattered around 3 hospitals scared me ..
What 3 hospitals do they scatter residents to? Do they send you to the main Brown teaching hospital(s)? If so, that's probably a benefit.

Nobody is going to have much experience with the Memorial situation. You are right to be scared. If I interviewed there I would rank it down just because of all the uncertainty surrounding what would happen if the hospital closed and the residency program was shut down.
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What 3 hospitals do they scatter residents to? Do they send you to the main Brown teaching hospital(s)? If so, that's probably a benefit.

Nobody is going to have much experience with the Memorial situation. You are right to be scared. If I interviewed there I would rank it down just because of all the uncertainty surrounding what would happen if the hospital closed and the residency program was shut down.
Thanks for replying! No they scatter the residents to the VA, and mainly Kent hospital (currently not so academic and has a small DO residency for medicine), and Memorial Hospital (currently around 40 beds still running and 4-6 ICU beds, really empty for the most part). I got this uneasy feeling after leaving there, morning report didn't have the residents from all sites and I'm not sure how all the residents get the same didactics completed (such as morning report, noon conferences, grand rounds, etc.. seeing that they have no base hospital)
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Wanted to do some not highly competitive fellowship

St agnes Baltimore,
Medstar Union Memorial, baltimore
Sinai hospital of baltimore
Crozer chester, philadelphia
Howard Washington, DC
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Hey guys! I would love to read your input on my list. I don't really have a geographic preference, but I do wanna pursue Hem/Onc, any advice would be appreciated. Some of them are not well known but if you could help me at least with the top of the list that would be great! Thank you and good luck in the match to all of you!

1. Texas Tech Lubbock

2. UCF Orlando
3. Mount Sinai Miami Beach

4. Metrowest, MA

5. Cook County

6. St Vincent, CT

7. Macneal, IL

8. Fairview, OH

9. Pinnacle, PA

10. Metropolitan NY

11. Lincoln Medical
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UConn, UMass, Case Western/Metrohealth, SUNY Upstate, Methodist Houston, Medstar Washington and Lahey
Firstly, brilliant question - hats off for having some personal priorities. Lol

Secondly - Aside from WHC and Lahey, all of your other programs (which are quite solid) are in predominantly caucasian cities with little diversity, and have smaller populations. So take from that what you will. Also Lahey is about 45 mins-1 hour from Boston proper vs WHC which is in the heart of DC.

Lifestyle:
WHC - most expensive of all these places too
Lahey
Methodist
UConn/UMass - theyre both massive institutions, find a co-resident lol
Upstate - upstate NY is depressing

Prestige:
UMass
UConn
WHC vs Lahey vs Methodist
Upstate

Then again you're asking advice from random strangers on the internet so take all of this with a grain of salt. Just be bloody charming and you can find a partner anywhere.
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Same way people are considering "family-friendly" regions...
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Wanted to do some not highly competitive fellowship

St agnes Baltimore,
Medstar Union Memorial, baltimore
Sinai hospital of baltimore
Crozer chester, philadelphia
Howard Washington, DC
could some one help me with this please
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Firstly, brilliant question - hats off for having some personal priorities. Lol

Secondly - Aside from WHC and Lahey, all of your other programs (which are quite solid) are in predominantly caucasian cities with little diversity, and have smaller populations. So take from that what you will. Also Lahey is about 45 mins-1 hour from Boston proper vs WHC which is in the heart of DC.

Lifestyle:
WHC - most expensive of all these places too
Lahey
Methodist
UConn/UMass - theyre both massive institutions, find a co-resident lol
Upstate - upstate NY is depressing

Prestige:
UMass
UConn
WHC vs Lahey vs Methodist
Upstate

Then again you're asking advice from random strangers on the internet so take all of this with a grain of salt. Just be bloody charming and you can find a partner anywhere.
Any reason you didn't include metrohealth in your list? Thanks for the two prong approach! Obviously I want a great program with even better training, that said, I certainly want the opportunity to date etc. Been single through med school and while that was fun I'm ready to settle down so to speak.
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Any reason you didn't include metrohealth in your list? Thanks for the two prong approach! Obviously I want a great program with even better training, that said, I certainly want the opportunity to date etc. Been single through med school and while that was fun I'm ready to settle down so to speak.
Oh thats my bad, simply forgot about it. Maybe that gives you my general outlook toward Ohio?

Metrohealth is a strong program. I wouldn't rank it over any of the university programs though. Their fellowship match is decent but nothing to salivate over (average 2-3/year in GI and Cards, mainly in-house, but the do well in CC). Cleveland is another one of those iffy cities for singles. I'd probably put it in the middle of the pack for both lifestyle and prestige.
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St agnes Baltimore,
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Sinai hospital of baltimore
Crozer chester, philadelphia
Howard Washington, DC
I have interviewed only at Crozer Chester.
Overall I liked the program.I think there is relatively better research opportunity compared to other community hospitals. My concerns are the location, and relatively small size of program.
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Your input would be extremely appreciated on these, seeking a non-competitive fellowship:

UCF orlando
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UPMC McKeesport
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A non competitive fellowship? Doesn't exist
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with some fellowships having 40% of the positions unfilled each year, I would argue that a non-competitive fellowship does indeed, exist

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Hey guys! I would love to read your input on my list. I don't really have a geographic preference, but I do wanna pursue Hem/Onc, any advice would be appreciated. Some of them are not well known but if you could help me at least with the top of the list that would be great! Thank you and good luck in the match to all of you!

1. Texas Tech Lubbock

2. UCF Orlando
3. Mount Sinai Miami Beach

4. Metrowest, MA

5. Cook County

6. St Vincent, CT

7. Macneal, IL

8. Fairview, OH

9. Pinnacle, PA

10. Metropolitan NY

11. Lincoln Medical
are there any specific reasons you put mt sinai below ucf? Mt sinai's prog has been there forever, more established, strong affiliation with UM, and miami beach >>> orlando (but that comes down to personal preference of course). but ucf might be less busy and faculty are very approachable
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How would rank these? interested in GI/Cardio. no visa needed, no family.

1- University of Texas San Antonio (UTHSCSA)
2- Einstein Philly
3- UPMC Mercy
4- University of Central florida (Orlando)
5- Texas Tech Amarillo
I have the rest of list figured out.

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Please help me rank these IM programs - I know it's pretty much none high tier but I still want to pursue cardiology (ultimate goal is interventional cardiology). Which one of these will help me more? I don't care about location, pay, benefits, etc. I am green card holder, Caribbean Grad.

1. UPMC mercy, PA
2. Danbury Hosptial (One of 7 Yale consortiums), CT - not sure how close to Yale I could get.
3. Naples community hospital, FL - affiliate of Mayo Clinic
4. Mercy Catholic Medical Ctr, PA
5. Coney Island hospital, ny
6. NYU Lutheran IM categorical - now is NYU IM Brooklyn campus I believe. Will be switching to primary care only next yr.
7. Rochester regional health, Unity hospital, NY (Primary??)
8. RFUMS/ Chicago Medical School at McHenry (currently yr 2 I believe)
9. U Texas Rio Grande Valley, Harlingen, tx


Sincere help appreciated!!! I really need a lot of input from anyone who knows about these programs. Thanks so much.
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Solid - You might want to consider putting Downstate above cook and Methodist significantly higher on the list given your cards preference.
thanks.. my confusion lies in the middle. i understand putting suny downstate higher than cook.. but what do you think of after number 9 ? up until 16/17 thats what im whacking my brains on.
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the major thing I guess I am now looking for is between Coney Island, Rochester unity, and mercy catholic (pa) for cardio.

Coney - heard from quite some people it's a red flag, but no one ever told me why, really confused. I heard they have a DO cardio program now, maybe merger in 2020?

Rochester - likes the environment, but not sure about its chances in cardio. It has 2 graduates only last yr into cardio with both to Univ of Nebraska? Is that a good program? Not sure what to make of that.

mercy catholic - kinda likes Philadelphia, the program felt huge during interview. Rare graduates when into cardio. What do people think when they hear of this program anyway? Don't seem many people ever heard of it?

Which one of these will be a better rank order for these. Tks in advance
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A non competitive fellowship? Doesn't exist
ID, Endo, Rheum, Nephro - all are begging for candidates. Zero competition for spots there, many of the above fellowship programs aren't even requiring research now.
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thanks.. my confusion lies in the middle. i understand putting suny downstate higher than cook.. but what do you think of after number 9 ? up until 16/17 thats what im whacking my brains on.
Most people don't fall that low on their rank list. So go by how you felt about each program. They're all community programs which little academics/affiliations so just go with your gut/location preference.
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the major thing I guess I am now looking for is between Coney Island, Rochester unity, and mercy catholic (pa) for cardio.

Coney - heard from quite some people it's a red flag, but no one ever told me why, really confused. I heard they have a DO cardio program now, maybe merger in 2020?

Rochester - likes the environment, but not sure about its chances in cardio. It has 2 graduates only last yr into cardio with both to Univ of Nebraska? Is that a good program? Not sure what to make of that.

mercy catholic - kinda likes Philadelphia, the program felt huge during interview. Rare graduates when into cardio. What do people think when they hear of this program anyway? Don't seem many people ever heard of it?

Which one of these will be a better rank order for these. Tks in advance
You need to see which of these has the best track record of placing residents into cardio fellowships but you're telling us that all the programs are not doing very well in fellowships immediately. So talk to the programs to see if residents are getting involved in research fellowships after graduating which lead to cardiology fellowships. You need to look into each program more. You also have to be realistic and have a "non-fellowship" back up plan; i.e. if you go to one of these programs, you have to have a second pathway set up what you're ok with in case cardiology doesn't happen. Since these are all community programs, go by feel of the program on interview day, and fellowship record.

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Any imput on my list? No need for visa, planning to do pulm/crit after residency.

1-Jacobi-NY
2- NYMC Metropolitan-NY
3- Cook County-IL
4- Jersey Shore-NJ
5- Danbury Hospital-CT
6- Advocate Illinois Masonic-IL
7- Hofstra Northwell Forrest Hills-NY
8- Harlem Hospital-NY
9- Yale Waterbury-CT
10- St Mary's Waterbury-CT
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ID, Endo, Rheum, Nephro - all are begging for candidates. Zero competition for spots there, many of the above fellowship programs aren't even requiring research now.

they ll take you as long as u don't spit on the program director. Even if you do they still might.
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are there any specific reasons you put mt sinai below ucf? Mt sinai's prog has been there forever, more established, strong affiliation with UM, and miami beach >>> orlando (but that comes down to personal preference of course). but ucf might be less busy and faculty are very approachable
Thanks for the reply! I put UCF ahead because I liked the vibe of it, it seem relaxed and they looked very invested in providing you with the resources you need to advance in your medical career, also the PD was extremely approachable and the other thing is that Miami beach and the Miami area is super expensive and Orlando is more affordable while stile being a nice city, but I am conflicted between those two so it's nice to have a second opinion. Thanks!
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You need to see which of these has the best track record of placing residents into cardio fellowships but you're telling us that all the programs are not doing very well in fellowships immediately. So talk to the programs to see if residents are getting involved in research fellowships after graduating which lead to cardiology fellowships. You need to look into each program more. You also have to be realistic and have a "non-fellowship" back up plan; i.e. if you go to one of these programs, you have to have a second pathway set up what you're ok with in case cardiology doesn't happen. Since these are all community programs, go by feel of the program on interview day, and fellowship record.

Hope this helps, all the best.

Thanks for the input. Really appreciate it.i was just really afraid to contact the program afraid it might hurt my chances when they hear I want cardio. Sighs*
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How to rank FSU Sarasota, CAMC/WVU and Howard? I need a visa, aiming for Pulm/CC fellowship.
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How to rank FSU Sarasota, CAMC/WVU and Howard? I need a visa, aiming for Pulm/CC fellowship.
I'm hearing very horrible things about Howard. It's my question as well. stuck between CAMC, GBMC, and Howard. I want GI which will be more accessible through Howard. But the program is literally broke. Faculty are leaving, and most of the rotations are at VA hosp. They only have 1 ICU attending who is so rude as well. They pay below average for a place like DC.
The only pluses I can see is the location and GI fellowship.
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Most people don't fall that low on their rank list. So go by how you felt about each program. They're all community programs which little academics/affiliations so just go with your gut/location preference.
thanks non compliant.
do you think medstar washington being that high on my list is fair ?? coz they are a community program afterall..!!
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do you think medstar washington being that high on my list is fair ?? coz they are a community program afterall..!!
What does your list currently look like? I think you should have Downstate higher.

The community designation is very broad. Mayo Clinic and Cleveland Clinic are designated community, and so are places like Lincoln Medical Center in the Bronx. What matters is the program's ability to get you the research that you need to get you into the fellowship that you want.

In general, university hospital programs are more academic and have more ongoing research, and thus better prepare residents for their fellowship application, and while this holds true most of the time it is not a hard rule.

That being said, programs with the community designation classically are less academic, lack the research opportunities, which is why their fellowship match rates, especially to the ones that require research, are low. But once again, this is not a hard rule. Places like Medstar Washington are more similar to Cleveland Clinic than to Lincoln, it's more academic, and doesn't have the typical research and fellowship limitations seen with most "community" hospitals.
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do you think medstar washington being that high on my list is fair ?? coz they are a community program afterall..!!
I'll parrot my colleague Elrond above - there are many types of community programs.

WHC is a solid, large community program which is also university affiliated so they have access to much research and academics. University affiliated community programs generally have a proper academic program in place (which makes for better learning), has dedicated teaching faculty, a research database, and a track record for doing more than just practicing medicine. Other things they may have are a statistics department, on-going trials, well-recognized faculty, many sub-specialists, etc. All this makes for much better fellowship placement than a non-affiliated community program, as you can imagine.

I think WHC is appropriately placed for you.
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Hi Guys:
Do u mind help me ranking this list, IMG, need a visa(don't care, any type!),Thinking about GI,but maybe Cards !

UMass
Metrohealth-Cleveland
East Carolina Uni/Vidant Medical Center
Univ of Texas Tech Lubbock
Univ of Tennessee Chattanoga
Lahey Clinic
Pennsylvania Hosp of UPenn Health System(Pennsy)
Univ Central Florida(Orlando)
Atlanta Medical Center
Howard
Metropolitan NY

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What does your list currently look like? I think you should have Downstate higher.

The community designation is very broad. Mayo Clinic and Cleveland Clinic are designated community, and so are places like Lincoln Medical Center in the Bronx. What matters is the program's ability to get you the research that you need to get you into the fellowship that you want.

In general, university hospital programs are more academic and have more ongoing research, and thus better prepare residents for their fellowship application, and while this holds true most of the time it is not a hard rule.

That being said, programs with the community designation classically are less academic, lack the research opportunities, which is why their fellowship match rates, especially to the ones that require research, are low. But once again, this is not a hard rule. Places like Medstar Washington are more similar to Cleveland Clinic than to Lincoln, it's more academic, and doesn't have the typical research and fellowship limitations seen with most "community" hospitals.
thank you very much.. this is what the list looks like so far..I am fairly confident of the order of top 9 now.. 10-21 is really confusing me.. if you have insight on those programs I ll appreciate it

1. UCONN
2. UAMS
3. SUNY upstate
4. Medstar Washington
5. UTMB Galveston
6. SLR
7. Suny downstate
8. cook county
9. ETSU
10. Mt Sinai Elmhurst
11. memorial hospital /mercer univ savannah
12. Jersey shore
13. Presence st francis
14. newyork methodist
15. SIU springfield
16. St Peters Nj
17. St Agnes
18. Maricopa
19. robert packer guthrie
20. redmond regional
21. conemaugh
22. mercy st vincent toledo
23. monmouth medical
24. seton hall elizabeth
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I'll parrot my colleague Elrond above - there are many types of community programs.

WHC is a solid, large community program which is also university affiliated so they have access to much research and academics. University affiliated community programs generally have a proper academic program in place (which makes for better learning), has dedicated teaching faculty, a research database, and a track record for doing more than just practicing medicine. Other things they may have are a statistics department, on-going trials, well-recognized faculty, many sub-specialists, etc. All this makes for much better fellowship placement than a non-affiliated community program, as you can imagine.

I think WHC is appropriately placed for you.
Many thanks noncompliant I really feel like just certifying the way i enlisted them below and end this .. haha
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Hi everyone! I am new to the forum. I have interviewed at 12 places, and am interested in doing a fellowship in endocrinology. Could you please help me rank these programs.
1. UConn
2. Medstar Washinton Hospital Center
3. Mount Auburn Hospital
4. UIUC
5. UAB Montgomery
6. Sinai Hospital of Baltimore
7. Memorial Hospital of Rhode Island
8. St Vincent Worcester
9. Trinitas Regional Medical Center, New Jersey
10. Metrowest Medical center, Framingham
11. Gundersen Healthcare, La crosse
12. Mac Neal Hospital, Berwyn

Please let me know what you all think of these programs! thanks, guys!
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Hi everyone! I am new to the forum. I have interviewed at 12 places, and am interested in doing a fellowship in endocrinology. Could you please help me rank these programs.
1. UConn
2. Medstar Washinton Hospital Center
3. Mount Auburn Hospital
4. UIUC
5. UAB Montgomery
6. Sinai Hospital of Baltimore
7. Memorial Hospital of Rhode Island
8. St Vincent Worcester
9. Trinitas Regional Medical Center, New Jersey
10. Metrowest Medical center, Framingham
11. Gundersen Healthcare, La crosse
12. Mac Neal Hospital, Berwyn

Please let me know what you all think of these programs! thanks, guys!
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Hi Guys:
Do u mind helping me ranking this list,an IMG, need a visa(J1),Thinking about GI,but maybe Cards !

1/UMass
2/Metrohealth-Cleveland
3/East Carolina Uni/Vidant Medical Center
4/Univ of Texas Tech Lubbock
5/Univ of Tennessee Chattanoga
6/Lahey Clinic
7/Pennsylvania Hosp of UPenn Health System(Pennsy)
8/Univ of Central Florida(Orlando)
9/Atlanta Medical Center
10/Howard Univ.
11/Metropolitan NY

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Hello Guys, I just want your feedback on my ROL before I certify. Any inputs or change or order appreciated.

I am an IMG, GC, inclined to GI/Cardio fellowship, No location or weather preference just need a good working env.

1.Mount Sanai Saint Luke Roosevelt
2.Ucsf Fresno Cali
3.Lahey clinic Boston
4.Abington Philly
5.Medstar union memorial Baltimore
6.Saint Agnes Baltimore
7.Staten Island uni
8.University of Reno Nevada
9.Mount Sanai elmhurst
10.Nassau
11.Jersey shore
12.NY Methodist
13.Riverside com Hospital, cali
14.Howard, DC
15.Montefiore Wakefield, Bronx
16.Saint Mary , Missouri
17.Henry ford alligience
18.Hurley, Flint
19.Eisenhower hospital , Cali
20.Lincoln , Bronx
21.Capital health , NJ
22.Flushing hospital queens
23.Ball memorial , Indianapolis
24.Scott and white , Texas
25,Raritan bay , NJ
26.Kingsbrook ,Brooklyn
27.San joaquin , Cali
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I don't know about visa.. but Lahey and pensy should be above lubbock and below vidant. They have a better match and better places to stay...
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Hi everyone! I am new to the forum. I have interviewed at 12 places, and am interested in doing a fellowship in endocrinology. Could you please help me rank these programs.
1. UConn
2. Medstar Washinton Hospital Center
3. Mount Auburn Hospital
4. UIUC
5. UAB Montgomery
6. Sinai Hospital of Baltimore
7. Memorial Hospital of Rhode Island
8. St Vincent Worcester
9. Trinitas Regional Medical Center, New Jersey
10. Metrowest Medical center, Framingham
11. Gundersen Healthcare, La crosse
12. Mac Neal Hospital, Berwyn

Please let me know what you all think of these programs! thanks, guys!
Both UIUC and UAB Montgomery dont have in-house fellowships. Which one is better?

Also, what do you guys think of Sinai Baltimore? You can do a few elective rotations at Johns Hopkins.
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