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StepTaker 01-12-2011 10:24 AM

LoRs, Waive My Rights or Not
 
It's has always been noted that "waiving your rights" for the LoR carries an advantage over not doing that with regard to letters of recommendations for residency application.

However, I personally think that not waiving the rights carries significant advantages, these are:
  • Faster processing time, as the letter writer does not need to write coversheet and DSF and send the letter by himself/herself.
  • You yourself read the LoR and see if there are mistakes in it, such as the AAMC ID number or the spelling of your name.
  • In rare instances, the letter writer may actually write bad about you!

Let's see what you think about that?




regina 01-13-2011 11:00 AM

In my school, no attending will give an LoR without waiving your rights. it's pretty much a standard thing ...

Peds2011 01-18-2011 09:57 AM

Not to waive is better
 
I agree with StepTaker,
If you waive your rights, you'll put yourself at risk of submitting a "bad" LoR, this risk is too high for the advantage of waiving, I think we should not waive

alwaysconfused 01-18-2011 02:27 PM

I did an elective recently and my attending agreed on giving me an LoR...she asked me whether i want to waive my right to see the letter or not....she said that she has served in the selection committee for many residency programs and if u don't waive your right your application is red tagged....I am not applying fr match this year i will do so next year...so I won't have a AAMC ID till next year....now what should I ask her to do?...how can u b sure that the attending will give u a nice letter...n will my asking her not to waive after she has advised me to waive upset her?:scared:

Hokolesqua 01-18-2011 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alwaysconfused (Post 25027)
I did an elective recently and my attending agreed on giving me an LoR...she asked me whether i want to waive my right to see the letter or not....she said that she has served in the selection committee for many residency programs and if u don't waive your right your application is red tagged....I am not applying fr match this year i will do so next year...so I won't have a AAMC ID till next year....now what should I ask her to do?...how can u b sure that the attending will give u a nice letter...n will my asking her not to waive after she has advised me to waive upset her?:scared:

I don't think your application will be "RED TAGGED" if you don't waive your rights. I know many many applicants who did not waive their rights and absolutely got no problem and were matched in excellent places.
The other point, it's not recommended to have an LoR which is more than one year old (you said you won't use the letter this year). It's recommended to have fresh LoRs when you apply in ERAS.
I suggest you tell her that you can't waive the rights because you don't have an AAMC ID :p this way she can't be upset with you.
By the way, FYI, the AAMC ID is not mandatory to be written in the LoR, but just tell her so in order you see what she will write and so that if you don't like it you don't use it :D

alwaysconfused 01-18-2011 02:43 PM

:confused: i am doing electives as a student n i have decided to do a year of research before applying.....so when i apply the letter will be a year old...so should I ask them for a LoR right before applying...wont it affect the quality of my LOR coz the wont even remember me and what I did clearly? then what should u I do?

Hokolesqua 01-18-2011 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alwaysconfused (Post 25030)
:confused: i am doing electives as a student n i have decided to do a year of research before applying.....so when i apply the letter will be a year old...so should I ask them for a LoR right before applying...wont it affect the quality of my LOR coz the wont even remember me and what I did clearly? then what should u I do?

Ask them to write for you the LoR now. Then after one year when you apply, contact them again and ask them to change the date in it and make it updated with newer information (like the stuff you did after you finished with them) like for example she can update the LoR to say ... alwaysconfused, has worked under my supervision one year ago and she was bla bla bla... and she then attended bla bla bla and finished bla bla bla and I highly recommend her for residency position.
Date; 2012

MedicalDR14 01-18-2011 03:58 PM

I dont understand what is it mean to
Waive My Rights or Not in LOR

Hokolesqua 01-18-2011 04:04 PM

The meaning of Waiving LoR rights
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MedicalDR14 (Post 25037)
I dont understand what is it mean to
Waive My Rights or Not in LOR

When you upload your LoRs in ERAS (read details) you have the option to waive your rights to view the LoR which means the attending will write an LoR about you and send it directly to ERAS and you don't see what he/she wrote about you.
It is a sort of adding objectivity to the recommendation as the letter writer will be embarrassed to write something bad about you if he/she knows that you will read it.

alwaysconfused 01-18-2011 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MedicalDR14 (Post 25037)
I dont understand what is it mean to
Waive My Rights or Not in LOR

I could do that but asking them fr a letter one time only is so difficult....wil thy do it fr us two times!!!

shima 04-18-2012 07:07 PM

I got my LOR, the doctors told me to tell the PD they wanted me to see how good of a student I was. Also many PD have told me it does not matter, if a doctor asked waived is all because he wants to right some stuff that he does not want you to know.

My LOR's are all 20-30 lines each. I got 4 from FAAFP, FAAP, FACC-CBMI, FACOG, all well know doctors in USA. one of them is top 5 OB/GYN in USA and they told me it does not matter

drcuddles 12-02-2013 08:01 PM

Is a cover sheet required?
I am planning not 2 waive my rights to see it, thus how can I upload the letters by myself?:confused:


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