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My ultimate goal would be neurosurgery. Yeah, I know, I am just dreaming. That means that I really have to ace the steps. 232 was the score neurosurgery residents had avaraged in step1. That doesn't seem so bad. I want to have at least the first quartile (I don't know how much this is).

I don't know how much they will appreciate research work. I have done research work whole time I have been med school and my supervisor has been professor and chair in USA. (Hopefully this will do some good ). However he is not neursosurgeon (minus???)

I have decided to do USMLE now and finish my PhD. Then I try to apply some neurosurgical research and make some contacts and hopefully I will get my residency of choice.

Am I just dreaming? Should I have alternative goal?
 

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Well considering you have a good score and that you are doing a PHD and also ready to do research I think you are definitely on track! I know a few ppl from my country who did get into neurosurgery without even having to do research 2 years back! So yeah I definitely think your dream is realistic n u shud go for it!
 

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Well considering you have a good score and that you are doin a phd and also ready to do research i think you are definitely on track! I know a few ppl from my country who did get into neurosurgery without even having to do research 2 years back! So yeah i definitely think your dream is realistic n u shud go for it!
Thanks.... I don't know how much this first quartile is. But I know I have to have at least 240. Which program they did get? How much they score were?
 

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Scores were 260+ with 3 months elective each and around 10 research publications. Other than that they did not have any research experience or PHD. I dont remember which programme they got into because they werent form my university but we had mutual friends so thats how i got to know! And it was i think 2-3 years back! But with PHD and research work you should definitely give it a shot!
 

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Something what I want...

My ultimate goal would be neurosurgery. Yeah, I know, I am just dreaming. That means that I really have to ace the steps. 232 was the score neurosurgery residents had avaraged in step1. That doesn't seem so bad. I want to have at least the first quartile (I don't know how much this is).

I don't know how much they will appreciate research work. I have done research work whole time I have been med school and my supervisor has been professor and chair in USA. (Hopefully this will do some good ). However he is not neursosurgeon (minus???)

I have decided to do USMLE now and finish my PhD. Then I try to apply some neurosurgical research and make some contacts and hopefully I will get my residency of choice.

Am I just dreaming? Should I have alternative goal?
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Scores were 260+ with 3 months elective each and around 10 research publications. Other than that they did not have any research experience or PHD. I dont remember which programme they got into because they werent form my university but we had mutual friends so thats how i got to know! And it was i think 2-3 years back! But with PHD and research work you should definitely give it a shot!
If your friend had 10 research publications, that means he had research experience (residency directors use publications to gauge your research experience, along with LOR's).
@Fin-84, it's definitely possible! I want to do neurosurgery also, and yes you have to try to do extremely well on the boards. 232 may be the average, but you're right, you should aim for much higher to give yourself more leverage. Research experience is highly valued, so if you can finish you PhD and get some publications, that will help also. Neurosurgery research will be an even bigger boost. The reason why research is so important is that most programs require their residents to take a year or two off during residency to do research with the program. So if you have some experience, this will show that you can do well during the research years of your residency. Just believe in yourself, you can do it!
 

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Yeah i understand research publications count towards research experience, but what i meant was that some people even go to states and to vokuntary research there for 1-2 years! That way they increase their chances even more!
 

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Well, I do know basic research on immunology and I have looked for groups in brain immunology/ oncology. And I do like research so it would not be so bad to do post-doc in US. I am a dreamer and dream on so >250 is my goal for step1 and that's where I must start my road.
Sometimes, we need to recognize the reality.
Dreaming is a good thing but it should be within the scope of reality.
 

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Sometimes, we need to recognize the reality.
Dreaming is a good thing but it should be within the scope of reality.
Well spoken, but I think the question is who defines reality?
We should all remember that any time one thinks about "reality" invariably it downplays
the mark set for oneself!
I think the truth is, what worked for somebody might not be the answer for another.
I believe the issue is more of oneself (individual). The sky is lower than the limit of him who dreams the biggest. He whosoever dreams to walk on the maximum scale of 100% can only end up on the best second offer if he does not land on the 100 than he who dreams less.
My friend (fin-84), don't kill your dreams go for it. You will share it with me in future that u made it!
 
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