Is goljan a Must read?
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yeah
it is
i can say dat eyes closed
it is
i can say dat eyes closed
it is too much for me too. so im skipping the first few chapters of cell biology n pathology. just skip right ahead to the core pathology problems if u don't have time. goljan audio is very useful though. doesnt seem like a lot. perhaps that is ok too. it all depends on individual again. if after doing goljan audio u find ur nbme n UW scores as fair as u expect, then u're ok. if not, then perhaps u need goljan rapid review.
that's just my opinion anyways..
I read goljan, I went to his live lectures and have his notes. I must say he is good, but NOT a must.
I would recommend Robbins and Cotran review of Pathology book. It is a question book about 400 pages and it covers all pathology subjects. Since you've already done some pathology, goljian is going to tell you the same thing just in a differnet way.
So grab the Robbins Pathology qbook and do every single question in there and record you scores. If you get below 60% in one subject, go back and study hard on that subject.
Review every answer in the robbins path book as well. Learn where you went wrong and look at how they describe things.
This will benifit you much more than just reading the Golijan book.
I would recommend Robbins and Cotran review of Pathology book. It is a question book about 400 pages and it covers all pathology subjects. Since you've already done some pathology, goljian is going to tell you the same thing just in a differnet way.
So grab the Robbins Pathology qbook and do every single question in there and record you scores. If you get below 60% in one subject, go back and study hard on that subject.
Review every answer in the robbins path book as well. Learn where you went wrong and look at how they describe things.
This will benifit you much more than just reading the Golijan book.
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The choice is different for graduate and student
When I started to prepare for step 1 I was a graduate..... I took step 1, got 95 with almost highest performance in pathology...however, believe it or not I haven't even touched Goljan's RRP.
I think that kaplan notes + MCQs in UW and Kaplan are more than enough for a graduate.
On the other hand medical students may find it so helpful as they can get benefit from it both for medical school exam and the USMLE...
Endpoint: Graduates do not need it........Students need it...
When I started to prepare for step 1 I was a graduate..... I took step 1, got 95 with almost highest performance in pathology...however, believe it or not I haven't even touched Goljan's RRP.
I think that kaplan notes + MCQs in UW and Kaplan are more than enough for a graduate.
On the other hand medical students may find it so helpful as they can get benefit from it both for medical school exam and the USMLE...
Endpoint: Graduates do not need it........Students need it...
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It's a must read
It's a must read
I like Robbins
I have heard it's a must read too, but since I haven't taken Pathology classes as yet I find the bullet point format a bit difficult to absorb. As such, I will read Robbins to get a better understanding of the material, then read Goljan once I already have a pretty firm grasp on Path. The organization is great and it has great images, so I think it will be good for reviewing. I have Kaplan also and the info is similar to that in Goljan as far as I can tell so far, but Goljan presents it in a better format and with more images.
Good luck!
I have heard it's a must read too, but since I haven't taken Pathology classes as yet I find the bullet point format a bit difficult to absorb. As such, I will read Robbins to get a better understanding of the material, then read Goljan once I already have a pretty firm grasp on Path. The organization is great and it has great images, so I think it will be good for reviewing. I have Kaplan also and the info is similar to that in Goljan as far as I can tell so far, but Goljan presents it in a better format and with more images.
Good luck!
Goljan is time consuming, but I can clearly say that he makes great concepts! (and mostly everyone who has a high 99 say that they did goljan audios and notes and they swear by it) If you had a great path professor and know how your links around the highway of pathology then i'd recommend do what you are doing! If you are 50-60% in your linking with the systems and diseases together i'd say goljan will take you to at least 80%, the rest will come from doing questions over and over again to take you to 85-90%.
there are also some 36 page HY and 100 page HY of Goljan circulating around, I haven't seen them as yet, but doesn't hurt to skim over them to see if they'll be helpful to you!
hope this helps.
good luck, study up till the wheels fall off!
there are also some 36 page HY and 100 page HY of Goljan circulating around, I haven't seen them as yet, but doesn't hurt to skim over them to see if they'll be helpful to you!
hope this helps.
good luck, study up till the wheels fall off!
Do you mean this?
Do you mean these notes available here http://www.usmle-forums.com/usmle-step-1-forum/2111-goljan-audio-notes.html
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I think those are a good summary of the audio, because he does a lot on the audio to try and keep your attention - talking about personal stories about himself and if you just want a quick few minutes like "was that membranous or membranoproliferative" then the notes are great....
I think at least the pictures in RR3 are pretty useful - I'd look at those if you have some time...
I think at least the pictures in RR3 are pretty useful - I'd look at those if you have some time...
No those are the typed audio....his HY notes are another set of 100 pgs or RR absolute HY for USMLE step 1 which is about 36 pgs i believe....you should ask around i'm pretty sure someone has them!
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Ohh okay that makes more sense - wow Goljan is a brand now - like Nestle or Kelloggs - one day all doctors will be buying Goljan brand stethoscopes or something... :happy:
2 questions, are they FMGs (if not then they don't count cuz they have the US self preservation LAW working for them)? if so how many of them have top notch residencies (usually reserved for FMGs with 99s)?I don't know anybody who read Goljan out of all my 20+ friends
They all got 90+ by the way
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As long as you remember the concepts you shouldn't be worried about memorizing texts. Nobody (normal people) can do that.How much of Rapid Review should I be retaining? I understand and can recall everything that Dr. Goljan mentions in his lectures but once I go back to quiz myself from the text I feel like I can't remember much
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