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Hi,
I wanted to have info regarding step by step process of how to apply for observerships /externships / research programs.
where to look for the programs available ?
what are the expenses in USD?
do v need to pass any steps before v start applying?
 

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The first and most important question is: did you already graduate or are you still a student?

If the latter is true, you can look up all the universities if they offer international students to take an elective. They all have different prerequisites.

If you already graduated, you may have to rely on agencies to connect you with externships. Pure observerships are not recommended, as they do not equal USCE. Try to research about the differences between the agencies, because some more prominent ones are just more expensive than others despite offering the same externships.
 

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The first and most important question is: did you already graduate or are you still a student?

If the latter is true, you can look up all the universities if they offer international students to take an elective. They all have different prerequisites.

If you already graduated, you may have to rely on agencies to connect you with externships. Pure observerships are not recommended, as they do not equal USCE. Try to research about the differences between the agencies, because some more prominent ones are just more expensive than others despite offering the same externships.
Hi....i know USCE is imp to make contacts & get LORs n stuff.But do u think the duration of the observer/externship counts as well?Like do they expect a min period of time to be covered?
 

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Hey thelostsoul,

some programs require you to have a certain amount of USCE, otherwise they won't even look at your application. But this is heavily program dependent, some officially require none, some >2 months, some >6 months and few ones even > 12 months.

My recommendation is to get LoR for the specific specialty you want to match to. Try to get 2 LoRs from your specialty of choice, then either 2 more letters from the same specialty or related specialties (e.g. 2 IM letters, 2 FM)
 

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Hey thelostsoul,

some programs require you to have a certain amount of USCE, otherwise they won't even look at your application. But this is heavily program dependent, some officially require none, some >2 months, some >6 months and few ones even > 12 months.

My recommendation is to get LoR for the specific specialty you want to match to. Try to get 2 LoRs from your specialty of choice, then either 2 more letters from the same specialty or related specialties (e.g. 2 IM letters, 2 FM)
Wow...thanks:)So it all depends i guess huh!If u dun mind,may i ask if u have had any USCE so far?
 

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By IM meaning internal medicine and FM meaning forensic medicine?
FM = family medicine; Forensic medicine doesn't have too much in common with internal medicine. Family medicine, however, does have a lot similarities. To clarify: let's say you want to apply to internal medicine, already got 2 LoRs from 2 rotations in IM. You may not have the time or opportunity to get more specialty-specific letters, so using specialty-related LoRs is also very good. But get at least 1 specialty-specific letter.

@thelostsoul:

Yes, I already got 5 months of USCE.
 

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FM = family medicine; Forensic medicine doesn't have too much in common with internal medicine. Family medicine, however, does have a lot similarities. To clarify: let's say you want to apply to internal medicine, already got 2 LoRs from 2 rotations in IM. You may not have the time or opportunity to get more specialty-specific letters, so using specialty-related LoRs is also very good. But get at least 1 specialty-specific letter.

@thelostsoul:

Yes, I already got 5 months of USCE.
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Thats great!Thanks for the reply & All the best!:)
 

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Hey everyone who's reading this post:

Be aware of some agencies which are organizing externships for graduates are very unreliable or even fishy. Don't believe everything they tell you, as some promise the best experience ever, but ultimately fail to keep up their promises.

I don't want to publicly say which organizations are that bad, but use your common sense and don't be swayed by their programs. Most externship agencies cannot offer the same experience as doing a legit away rotation at an university program as a medical student.
 

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Hey everyone who's reading this post:

Be aware of some agencies which are organizing externships for graduates are very unreliable or even fishy. Don't believe everything they tell you, as some promise the best experience ever, but ultimately fail to keep up their promises.

I don't want to publicly say which organizations are that bad, but use your common sense and don't be swayed by their programs. Most externship agencies cannot offer the same experience as doing a legit away rotation at an university program as a medical student.
True & i kinda agree with you :) Sorry to be bothering you,but cld u tel me how u got into obeservership/research programme or whatever it is you are doin currently?Did u approach them directly or something?
 

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Hey thelostsoul,

there are a few ways to get USCE:

1. Approach universities and hospitals directly. This is the best way to get USCE as you will be treated the same as an US student doing his electives. Look for universities/hospitals that offer electives for international visiting students. The problem with this approach is that you still have to be a student, there's a lot of paperwork for each application and it takes time to research where they offer electives.

2. An exchange program through your university. As good as getting electives as the above approach just with less paperwork.

3. Private companies/agencies. They have contracts with hospitals around the US and can get you an placement without too much paperwork and very quickly so, but in my experience the rotations were generally lower quality. Too many students per preceptor, exclusion from other AMGs and so on. However, in the end you can get a LoR and this is what counts for your application. They are also often pricey compared to applying directly to programs. This is also the only way that I know of to get USCE as a graduate.
 

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Hey thelostsoul,

there are a few ways to get USCE:

1. Approach universities and hospitals directly. This is the best way to get USCE as you will be treated the same as an US student doing his electives. Look for universities/hospitals that offer electives for international visiting students. The problem with this approach is that you still have to be a student, there's a lot of paperwork for each application and it takes time to research where they offer electives.

2. An exchange program through your university. As good as getting electives as the above approach just with less paperwork.

3. Private companies/agencies. They have contracts with hospitals around the US and can get you an placement without too much paperwork and very quickly so, but in my experience the rotations were generally lower quality. Too many students per preceptor, exclusion from other AMGs and so on. However, in the end you can get a LoR and this is what counts for your application. They are also often pricey compared to applying directly to programs. This is also the only way that I know of to get USCE as a graduate.
Oh okay...well I'm a graduate so that leaves me to the last option i guess.
Anyways,Thanks for your time & detailed replies.Very kind of you:)
Wishing you All the best!Happy-2
 
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